How much do small details get to you?

[lovecraft68]

You're right.



(or that I want him to) Unless you want him, too!

Sigh, see details, details!

Now see you know I wasn't lying when I said in the OP I still struggle with grammar!

 

[lovecraft68]

To think bout it LC when you looked at my story. I can't remember what it was but it wasn't major. Either way I went back redid it and doubled the length.

Hmmm, Hard to remember, I think it was just a couple of "are you kidding" phrases that would have been straight of of really bad 70's porn. I was like "no one says that!"

I recall the story had a great "feel" to it.

 

[jdnunyer]

That would have bugged me too. If the rest of the story was good, it wouldn't be enough to ruin it for me, but I definitely would have noticed. And the reaction they had when you pointed it out sounds pretty amateurish/immature.

 

[lovecraft68]

And you didn't still have some requests along those lines anyway? What is the Literotica readership coming to?! *shakes head*

About the thread topic: Yes, a content editor is supposed to point out all the inconsistencies or 'holes' in the story. There have been instances in the past when I edited for Lit where I did just that and the authors refused to budge on their version of reality within the story. No, it wasn't sci-fi either. In such cases, I refused to be associated with the story anymore.

When such things happen in my stories (and yes, there have been a few places where the character removes her panties twice or was lying down, but lies down again in the heat of the moment, etc.), I submit an edited version as soon as possible because nothing really makes me cringe as much as such things happening in my stories.

Actually I have to give my fans of SWB credit. They took what I wrote down to heart and I got many suggestions saying "It would be great iof they adopted a child who was troubled like they were and gave them the life they never had" So they adapted to my "mythos"

I screwed one up myself when I started the chapter with the girl wearing black panties. Later on her and her brother had sex in front of someone (who did not know they were sibs) and when she bent over I wanted the guy to see she had soaked through her panties.

I realized that effect wouldn't happen with black and changed them to pink. I went back and thought I caught all the "black" but then received a comment that said, "Great chapter and a hot scene. Now tell me where I can get those color changing panties!"

It happens, and there were a couple of otehr remarks, but all in a joking fashion. I gave them a good laugh in a way. But I was pissed at myself big time."

 

[Ironiclaconic]

Yeah those are the type of errors that make it through occasionally. "Do I want to re-read the entire story to catch every reference to my decision to change a character's hair color, or do I think I caught them all?" Burns me almost every time.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yeah those are the type of errors that make it through occasionally. "Do I want to re-read the entire story to catch every reference to my decision to change a character's hair color, or do I think I caught them all?" Burns me almost every time.

Right, because by then you've been through it several times and are no longer "seeing" it anymore.

 

[damppanties]

Yeah those are the type of errors that make it through occasionally. "Do I want to re-read the entire story to catch every reference to my decision to change a character's hair color, or do I think I caught them all?" Burns me almost every time.

Find & Replace is a trap all on its own.

 

[sr71plt]

Just posting this because of an e-mail I received this morning. Last week an author who has commented on several of my stories reached out to me and asked if I would look at a story for him.

I said I would, but as always stressed I still struggle with grammar and I am not an editor, but would be happy to read it and give him some general feedback about what I liked an didn't and why.

Now their response was that was fine and the reason they liked my work is I am consistent throughout my stories and seem to pay attention to small details and inject as much reality in the fantasy as possible and that is what he is looking for is "holes" in the story.

Well, this is an interesting way of me, me, meing and puffing yourself up on the forum, I must say.

 

[sr71plt]

One thing an editor on Literotica should not do is come on the forum and discuss a specific case where the specific-case author can identify they are being discussed here. It destroys author-editor trust in privacy all across the board.

 

[lovecraft68]

One thing an editor on Literotica should not do is come on the forum and discuss a specific case where the specific-case author can identify they are being discussed here. It destroys author-editor trust in privacy all across the board.

I'm not his editor read the first post, I explain I do not edit. I can only give opinions. I also noted twice the story itself is good.

Besides as for author/Editor trust I abide by that because trust me, there are two people who continue to add their names to the list in the editors forum that I would like to publicly warn people not to go anywhere near, but feel that would be wrong.

Then again saying you're an editor when you know you're no better than the author looking for help is wrong as well.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, this is an interesting way of me, me, meing and puffing yourself up on the forum, I must say.

No, its a discussion that people here are freely contributing too.

Shove another lemon in your bitter puss will ya?

 

[sr71plt]

No, its a discussion that people here are freely contributing too.

Shove another lemon in your bitter puss will ya?

Don't like getting it back at you, do you? (bullies usually don't)

 

[sr71plt]

I'm not his editor read the first post, I explain I do not edit. I can only give opinions. I also noted twice the story itself is good.

Besides as for author/Editor trust I abide by that because trust me, there are two people who continue to add their names to the list in the editors forum that I would like to publicly warn people not to go anywhere near, but feel that would be wrong.

Then again saying you're an editor when you know you're no better than the author looking for help is wrong as well.

The writer asked you, in private, to perform an editorial function for him. You brought the results of the function to the board and talked about it openly enough for him to see what he brought to you in private being discussed openly on the board. (And maybe for others to link directly to him when/if the story gets posted.)

So, yes, I guess you're not an editor--and anyone reading this who comes to you privately for advice isn't being too bright, now knowing the risks of that.

(And I'm not at all averse to calling out by name those who have put out an editor's shingle here and are discovered to be shams. But that's an entirely different issue from this one. For one thing, if they are called out, there's a good chance they'll be able to show that they are being wrongly called out.)

 

[lovecraft68]

On topic I recalled I have somewhat of an example for how closely readers pay attention.

In a story I described my character wearing a black Movado watch. I mentioned it a couple of times during the first part of the story.

The character ends up in a nasty all out barroom brawl and just when I was submitting it, I caught myself.

That watch would have been smashed to pieces and being what a big deal the watch was to the character he would have noted its smashing.

I then decided to have some fun. I left it as is and put in the author's note I made a mistake and offered a "prize" to the person who picked it out.

So on one side no one caught it.

On the other I had 3 things pointed out to me that I did not notice that could pass for "lost" details or inaccuracies. So pretty humbling all in all.

 

[loquere]

Sr71plt has a point here, I was keen on finding out who the person is. But Sr71plt is correct I agree with him about the confidence you were trusted with. You do seem to get off on attacking other. I too need to pull back and re-humanize.

 

[lovecraft68]

Sr71plt has a point here, I was keen on finding out who the person is. But Sr71plt is correct I agree with him about the confidence you were trusted with. You do seem to get off on attacking other. I too need to pull back and re-humanize.

And had the story been up, you would have been one more view and a potential voter and commentor.

Such a disservice.

 

[PennLady]

And had the story been up, you would have been one more view and a potential voter and commentor.

Such a disservice.

But he would have gone in with a bias, or an additional bias, and that's not fair to the author.

 

[sr71plt]

And had the story been up, you would have been one more view and a potential voter and commentor.

Such a disservice.

I fail to see the relevance of this. When you agree to help someone with their story here, they have every right not to expect to see you discussing it in detail on the forum.

 

[_Lynn_]

One thing an editor on Literotica should not do is come on the forum and discuss a specific case where the specific-case author can identify they are being discussed here. It destroys author-editor trust in privacy all across the board.

Ditto.

I'm not his editor read the first post, I explain I do not edit. I can only give opinions. I also noted twice the story itself is good.

Besides as for author/Editor trust I abide by that because trust me, there are two people who continue to add their names to the list in the editors forum that I would like to publicly warn people not to go anywhere near, but feel that would be wrong.

Then again saying you're an editor when you know you're no better than the author looking for help is wrong as well.

So because you claim you aren't an editor, that makes it all right to openly discuss this person's story? Offering opinions isn't part of editing?

Whether the story is good or not isn't the point. If you wanted to start a discussion on details, you should have either used examples from your own work or made something up just for the thread.

There are people who edit here at Lit without anyone realizing how much time they give to others. They offer opinions, comment on stories, and more. And if they have questions about the story they're working on, they look for the answers . . . in private.

 

[lovecraft68]

Ahh, fire and smoke together as always.

Odds are the story may never be here because the girl is 17 and I could not get it through their head that age of consent may be 16 where he lives in r/l, but not here. I gave him SOL as an option

This person also never comes to the boards even after I invited him to because he referred to them as "stalling tactics by a bunch of opinionated jerks" which is sort of true a good part of the time especially since his only experience here was on the GB.

And I am one of those people who have helped many here, though not in an editing capacity, but in other ways so spare me the martyrdom.

 

[NaokoSmith]

I'm not sure if Lovecraft broke confidentiality here. I haven't read the thread word for word, but I don't think he named the author or anything. It may be some of you knew who he was talking about, and that this isn't a common storyline so very identifiable? but if not, I don't think LC did break confidentiality.

When I edit I make sure I say: I'm going to be rough with your story, say what the Hell I like, and it's up to you to take or leave my comments. It's your story. Jesus, that time LaRascasse left in the villain drinking champagne with beef ravioli, I was hopping! I think I can say this because LaR very properly thanks me as the editor of his chapters and I'm sure he wouldn't deny me the right to say I would never have let such a faux pas pass without a huge: WTF is this!!!! in a comment on the side. (Indeed he recently left a note on one story thanking me for convincing him not to become a sommelier.) But it's his story and if he wishes to imagine that there are people so lost to decency in the world, then I must respect that.

I'm unable to resist commenting that I always include safe sex in my stories and in all the fifteen one star and five star comments on my werewolf story, bitching (ho ho) about how disgusting and depraved it is, nobody said the fact that the werewolf put on a condom was stupid although they tore apart lots of other aspects of the writing.

I would find the inaccuracy LC described very irritating.

(this banana is wearing a lubricated extra sensitive Durex)

 

[loquere]

Hmmm, Hard to remember, I think it was just a couple of "are you kidding" phrases that would have been straight of of really bad 70's porn. I was like "no one says that!"

I recall the story had a great "feel" to it.

Let the record show, 70's porn never made the critique. The full critique which I listened to is affixed below. I did fill out the skeleton into a doubled length completely overhauled story asper your dvice, which I valued at the time. You never said anything about it being tacky before, odd wording yes.


You still haven't sent me the email, about the story. I would love advice untop of you original sugestions. I was thinking of making it an occult story. Where do you see it going.
---End Quote---
Damn, why do I keep forgetting?

Okay, first of all not sure where an occult angle could come in, but I wouldn't be the guy to ask, I don;t mix my "vices"

Before I get to your story just keep in mind whatever I say is my opinion, I've only been writing a couple of years and am self taught pretty much so take whatever I say for what its worth.

First off, I'll leave grammar alone. My grammar is my weak point so I never bother calling out others for it unless its glaring, I saw nothing glaring.

I like the "feel" of the story I like his waking up and that confusion and pleasure and that "am I dreaming" sensation, you do a good job of setting a "mood or tone"

In itself the story was good, but here is the one thing that stuck out. been a couple of weeks since I read it, but I believe the line was "let me back up" or something like that.

Big no-no. See in 1st person we become the narrator. I'm that person laying there getting that surpise BJ. Meaning the characters thoughts are mine.

Now when you say let me back up, you now have gone from the character being me, to him speaking to me.

I was going along and then its wait? What? so rephrase that.

Maybe "As I lay there stunned, I found my mind drifting back to what led to this.... something like that. Don't address me directly it screws up flow.

You're jumping around needs a little polish it seemed a bit jumbled.

Also try not to staring to create new expressions the line "her cock speed inspiring lips" was again like "What?" *The speed of her lips inspired my hips to begin moving in time....just a suggestion.

All in all I think good premise and you have a good style. I would flesh this thing out more you got a good skeleton, but it needs some meat on its bones.

also look again where you go back and explain things it seems clunky, just keep reading it and add or take out a little here and there and it will shape up.

You're certainly not wasting your time with this and each story will simply make you better.

As an aside I sense in your threads and posting that you seem very concerned with how you will be taken here by the readers. That will stop you before you get started, you can;t live and die by the readers, its a free site you'll get a lot of "Man, you're the greatest" and "Dude, never write again" and some people in between.

Take it all for what its worth, but mostly write for you. No pressure just let it roll, it all comes out as it is meant to.

Don;t know if that helps you, but its all I got.

So out of curiosity what have you read of mine?

LC

 

[sr71plt]

Whether the story is good or not isn't the point. If you wanted to start a discussion on details, you should have either used examples from your own work or made something up just for the thread.

Oh, I think I nailed it with my first post. The purpose of LC's thread, I think, was to establish those first three paragraphs of the OP where he presents someone telling him how great his writing is.

And now he's doing all sorts of mealymouthing on why it doesn't matter in terms of violating the privacy of a request to help with a story. Fumble, fumble.

 

[sr71plt]

nobody said the fact that the werewolf put on a condom was stupid although they tore apart lots of other aspects of the writing.

They probably are still laughing so hard that they can't type through the tears of mirth. I'm still laughing from when you mentioned werewolf and condom in the same sentence on the forum.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hmmm, maybe bad 70's porn was something I told someone else or maybe I said it to you somewhere here on a thread.

The "cock inspiring lips" I remember. Including the it made me say "what" and the good "feel" just the 70's line I got mixed up.

I don't recall actually saying that much in general, but I obviously did.

On my end I don't believe I saved any of that I usually don;t keep a lot of correspondence on my lap top just in case. Maybe I should in case someone who sent me something gets famous and I can say "I was there say the beginning!"