In State of the Union, Obama to return to jobs and the economy

[Sean]

I believe in free markets. I don't believe in organized crime, organized coercion (labor). There's a reason why the CPUSA sought to spend much of its resources infiltrating the American labor movement. Ya crank.

What you believe is that the oligarchs are allowed to organise to oppress the masses but the masses should just knuckle under and kowtow to capital. Carry on, Boxer.

 

[zipman]

With Rubio's response to the SOTU, the Republicans are no longer considered the GOP, they are the HOP: the Hypocritical Obstinate Party. Remember, he said he loved his federally funded education and how it was wonderful for his mother to be on Medicare, then said they were BAD ENTITLEMENTS.

Vette's just an HOP

I watched that twice it because it was so damn funny!

Hypocritical - yes, it was. But between his sweating and his dry mouth I couldn't stop laughing.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I believe in free markets. I don't believe in organized crime, organized coercion (labor).

Collective bargaining by organized labor is only another form of negotiation-in-the-marketplace. As a conservative, you should be for it.

There's a reason why the CPUSA sought to spend much of its resources infiltrating the American labor movement. Ya crank.

Yes, the reason is that they thought they could make a revolution that way. They were wrong. Nothing about that reflects badly on organized labor.

 

[richard_daily]

Yes, the reason is that they thought they could make a revolution that way. They were wrong. Nothing about that reflects badly on organized labor.

I doubt they spent as much money as Obama did on his 200 million dollar a day trip to India.

 

[RjThoughts]

I doubt they spent as much money as Obama did on his 200 million dollar a day trip to India.

More HOP math. I plum forgot all about that lie.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Did Bush take over the entire American economy?

The New Deal was no tyranny, and neither was the "war socialism" which all the Allies in WWII practiced of necessity.

Did Bush propose a Second Bill of Rights to expand the government?

What FRD proposed was no tyranny either. Social democracy != tyranny. It is practiced in its most extreme form in the free countries of Scandinavia and in less-extreme form throughout the industrialized-democratic world.

 

[Ishmael]

You do realize that the 47% is a MADE UP NUMBER? You do realize that the majority of Americans that do not pay income taxes are children, seniors, the handicapped, don't you?

You realize you're full of shit don't you? A data point is a data point. Not even Slate of The Atlantic try to deny that number. They, like you, try to deflect. The difference is that they use actual facts.

Ishmael

 

[mercury14]

You realize you're full of shit don't you? A data point is a data point. Not even Slate of The Atlantic try to deny that number. They, like you, try to deflect. The difference is that they use actual facts.

Ishmael

It's not a data point.

 

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[Disgustipated]

Organized labor is dying. When I entered the labor market in the early 60s they were over 20% of the private labor market and infiltrated by the Mafia and the Communist Party. Today they represent only 7% at the most of that same market. Americans, with exception of you and other low information citizens, are wise to the racket.

Lolwut?

 

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[RobDownSouth]

You realize you're full of shit don't you? A data point is a data point. Not even Slate of The Atlantic try to deny that number. They, like you, try to deflect. The difference is that they use actual facts.

Ishmael

Statistics confuse you. An aggregate percentage is not a data point.

 

[unregistered]

 

[zipman]

Okay, then let's just agree that the biggest reduction in individual rights in the last 70 years came under Bush, a republican and you were silent as a church mouse while it happened.

No blustering about tyranny. Nothing. And why? Because you're just a pathetic, hypocritical partisan hack.

Not man enough to admit it?

Not surprising vettepussy.

 

[Cade Is Here]

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[mercury14]

I believe the government's authority is enumerated, not all encompassing.

You believe the government has the authority to do all kinds of things that aren't enumerated. You like the sound of what you just said but when it comes to real life application you support dozens of government functions that aren't spelled out in the Constitution. How many examples would you like?

 

[coastal-boy]

...but I'm just paranoid

comes from being an admitted criminal while pretending to be an upstanding individual of the community

 

[coastal-boy]

Organized labor is dying. When I entered the labor market in the early 60s they were over 20% of the private labor market and infiltrated by the Mafia and the Communist Party. Today they represent only 7% at the most of that same market. Americans, with exception of you and other low information citizens, are wise to the racket.

So if they are inconsequential and dying, why are you so worried about them? They are dying...right?

 

[coastal-boy]

Life in America must be hard for you Orfeo. Why don't you move to those socialist countries you admire so much? Only weak, non productive, camp followers like yourself, admire the lukewarmth of socialism.

How is that Social Security treating you Vette?

How about those Vet benefits you still receive?

Does it make you feel "lukewarm" as you reap in the benefits of a socialist country?

 

[BotanyBoy]

comes from being an admitted criminal while pretending to be an upstanding individual of the community

Admitted criminal? How so?

 

[coastal-boy]

Admitted criminal? How so?

Oh...so you don't raise pot? On a commercial scale? Is it legal in your state?

 

[unregistered]

 

[BotanyBoy]

Oh...so you don't raise pot? On a commercial scale? Is it legal in your state?

100% legal actually...for recreation too,

So yea...the people of this state voted to tell the fed to fuck off....
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Calling me a criminal....man that's going to have to be a solid ass argument in a pretty grey realm of quasi legality even federal prosecutors are having trouble with....good luck!!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The political interaction is what is fascinating to watch. The administration/government is busily skewering the very institutions/people that have benefited most from the policies that the administration/government has implemented. And not having learned their lesson, the administration/government charges ahead implementing even more.

Tax deductions are now referred to as "loop-holes" even though they are a matter of law. Under even the narrowest of application of the phrase "loop-hole" it is inarguable that the home mortgage interest deduction is just another "loop-hole." This phenomena represents an excellent snap shot of current popular thought. What I can take advantage of is a legitimate deduction, what I can't is a "loop-hole." Expanding that definition brings us to the notion that the 47% that are paying no federal income tax at all are taking advantage of the biggest "loop-hole" of all.

I wonder how many read, let alone understood, the article you linked? I wonder how many still view the government as the 'champion of the down trodden' when all available evidence shows just the opposite? I wonder how many still believe that the democrat party is still on the side of the little guy and the republicans for the fat cats when all available evidence shows that the democrats have been the biggest enablers of the wealthy? (Although the republicans can legitimately take credit for a goodly share of that as well.)

I wonder when it will dawn on the citizenry that any tax based on income in inherently unfair?

Ishmael

As long as they think it is their government, they do not care.

Remember how so many of these very same posters came here day-after-day-after-day all wound up on how the Bush Administration was destroying the middle class, making the poor poorer, spending all that money on war, engaging in crony capitalism and creating the worst economy in 50 years, 100 years, since Quintillus!

What’s the difference between economic stimulus and loophole for the rich? the Democrats standings in the polls.
A_J, the Stupid

That is the irony in all of this. When it goes to your cronies and your pet pipe dream, it is a stimulus, but when the sword cuts both ways and your opposition also happens to benefit, then it is a loophole.



When Government gets so powerful that its purchase price is cost effective, even imperative, to business, then business will purchase government indulgences.
A_J, the Stupid

"I wonder when it will dawn on the citizenry that any tax based on income in inherently unfair?"

Never. It feels good to hurt someone when you do not amount to what you think you are worth.

If you think it is acceptable to take a percentage of someone's income above your station in life, then everyone in that station, as well as everyone below your station in life will find it perfectly acceptable to take like amount from you.
A_J, the Stupid