Let Detroit go bankrupt ByMittRomney

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BOSTON — If General Motors, Ford and
Chrysler get the bailout that their chief
executives asked for on Tuesday, you can
kiss the American automotive industry
goodbye. It won't go overnight, but its
demise will be virtually guaranteed.

Without that bailout, Detroit will need to
drastically restructure itself. With it, the
automakers will stay the course - the
suicidal course of declining market
shares, insurmountable labor and retiree
burdens, technology atrophy, product
inferiority and never-ending job losses.
Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check.

I love cars, American cars. I was born in
Detroit, the son of an auto chief
executive. In 1954, my dad, George
Romney, was tapped to run American
Motors when its president suddenly died.
The company itself was on life support -banks were threatening to deal it a death
blow. The stock collapsed. I watched Dad
work to turn the company around - and
years later at business school, they were
still talking about it. From the lessons of
that turnaround, and from my own
experiences, I have several prescriptions
for Detroit's automakers.

First, their huge disadvantage in costs
relative to foreign brands must be
eliminated. That means new labor
agreements to align pay and benefits to
match those of workers at competitors
like BMW, Honda, Nissan and Toyota.
Furthermore, retiree benefits must be
reduced so that the total burden per auto
for domestic makers is not higher than
that of foreign producers.

That extra burden is estimated to be
more than $2,000 per car. Think what
that means: Ford, for example, needs to
cut $2,000 worth of features and quality
out of its Taurus to compete with Toyota's
Avalon. Of course the Avalon feels like a
better product - it has $2,000 more put
into it. Considering this disadvantage,
Detroit has done a remarkable job of
designing and engineering its cars. But if
this cost penalty persists, any bailout will
only delay the inevitable.

Second, management as is must go. New
faces should be recruited from unrelated
industries - from companies widely
respected for excellence in marketing,
innovation, creativity and labor relations.

The new management must work with
labor leaders to see that the enmity
between labor and management comes to
an end. This division is a holdover from
the early years of the last century, when
unions brought workers job security and
better wages and benefits. But as Walter
Reuther, the former head of the United
Automobile Workers, said to my father,
"Getting more and more pay for less and
less work is a dead-end street."

You don't have to look far for industries
with unions that went down that road.
Companies in the 21st century cannot
perpetuate the destructive labor relations
of the 20th.

This will mean a new direction for the
UAW, profit sharing or stock grants to all
employees and a change in Big Three
management culture.

The need for collaboration will mean
accepting sanity in salaries and perks. At
American Motors, my dad cut his pay and
that of his executive team, he bought
stock in the company, and he went out to
factories to talk to workers directly. Get
rid of the planes, the executive dining
rooms - all the symbols that breed
resentment among the hundreds of
thousands who will also be sacrificing to
keep the companies afloat.

Investments must be made for the future.
No more focus on quarterly earnings or
the kind of short-term stock appreciation
that means quick riches for executives
with options.

Manage with an eye on cash flow,
balance sheets and long-term
appreciation. Invest in truly competitive
products and innovative technologies -especially fuel-saving designs - that may
not arrive for years. Starving research
and development is like eating the seed
corn.

Just as important to the future of
American carmakers is the sales force.
When sales are down, you don't want to
lose the only people who can get them to
grow. So don't fire the best dealers, and
don't crush them with new financial or
performance demands they can't meet.

It is not wrong to ask for government
help, but the automakers should come up
with a win-win proposition. I believe the
federal government should invest
substantially more in basic research - on
new energy sources, fuel-economy
technology, materials science and the like
- that will ultimately benefit the
automotive industry, along with many
others.

I believe Washington should raise energy
research spending to $20 billion a year,
from the $4 billion that is spent today.
The research could be done at
universities, at research labs and even
through public-private collaboration. The
federal government should also rectify
the imbedded tax penalties that favor
foreign carmakers.

But don'task Washington to give
shareholders and bondholders a free pass
- they bet on management and they lost.

The American auto industry is vital to our
national interest as an employer and as a
hub for manufacturing. A managed
bankruptcy may be the only path to the
fundamental restructuring the industry
needs. It would permit the companies to
shed excess labor, pension and real estate
costs.

The federal government should provide
guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing
and assure car buyers that their
warranties are not at risk. In a managed
bankruptcy, the federal government
would propel newly competitive and
viable automakers, rather than seal their
fate with a bailout check.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19iht-edromney.1.17959143.html?_r=1&
 
Is there a problem with this?
Romney pointed out at the second debate that the Obama campaign repeatedly said Romney would bankrupt Detroit. Romney then added that GM and Chrysler did go bankrupt under Obama.
Obama responded by saying what Romney said was true, but the difference was that under Romney, GM and Chrysler would declare bankruptcy without a plan.
Think about that.
The whole point of declaring bankruptcy is it gives you time to develop a plan to pay your debt and get out of bankruptcy.

You have to wonder how many idiots bought Obama's argument.
 
I bet not a single employee who still has a job in the Detroit auto industry thinks Obama did it wrong.
Not one.
 
But the Bond holders who got screwed by the restrucring did.

Sorry I think our concerns count too
 
I bet not a single employee who still has a job in the Detroit auto industry thinks Obama did it wrong.
Not one.
What about the Ford employees that would have done better if a normal bankruptcy had occurred? Ford would be bigger and stronger and the Ford employees would be wealthier.
 
"The federal government should provide
guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing
"

OBAMA: You did not say that you would provide government help.

ROMNEY: I said that we would provide guarantees, and - and that was what was able to allow these companies to go through bankruptcy, to come out of bankruptcy. Under no circumstances would I do anything other than to help this industry get on its feet. And the idea that has been suggested that I would liquidate the industry, of course not. Of course not.

(CROSSTALK)

OBAMA: Let's check the record


Well the record has been checked. Obam is a liar and or a fucking moron..
 
"The federal government should provide
guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing
"

OBAMA: You did not say that you would provide government help.

ROMNEY: I said that we would provide guarantees, and - and that was what was able to allow these companies to go through bankruptcy, to come out of bankruptcy. Under no circumstances would I do anything other than to help this industry get on its feet. And the idea that has been suggested that I would liquidate the industry, of course not. Of course not.

(CROSSTALK)

OBAMA: Let's check the record


Well the record has been checked. Obam is a liar and or a fucking moron..

It will be fun to watch you guys' heads explode if he wins again...lol
 
It's hilarious to watch Romney and the GOP do a complete 180 today and say that the government should pick winners and losers in the private sector after all.
 
Actually GM did go through a bankruptcy proceeding

You're just figuring this out?

the difference was the President of the United States exceeded his authority and threw 200 years of bankruptcy law out the window and dictated the process, making the unions whole and telling the secured bond holders to take a fucking walk. He should have stayed the fuck out of it and let the courts handle it.

Which law was broken? Be specific.
 
Actually GM did go through a bankruptcy proceeding, the difference was the President of the United States exceeded his authority and threw 200 years of bankruptcy law out the window and dictated the process, making the unions whole and telling the secured bond holders to take a fucking walk. He should have stayed the fuck out of it and let the courts handle it.

Old GM is still in bankruptcy they have all the debt and bad assets.
 
And I bet a lot of bond holders that got fucked think different.


From your own link, Romney says let bond holders lose their shirts.

But don'task Washington to give
shareholders and bondholders a free pass
- they bet on management and they lost.

Every last bondholder and shareholder is happy with Obama's course of action over Romney's. Every one. 100%.
 
F wasnt part of Obama 'bailout"

thats why THEY are PROFITABLE

Sssshhhh don't tell anyone the dirty secret is Ford did take a bailout.

Ford, BMW, Toyota Took Secret
Government Money

By Justin Hyde, Dec 2, 2010 4:00 PM
In the depths of the financial collapse, the
U.S. Federal Reserve pumped $3.3 trillion
into keeping credit moving through the
economy. It eventually lent $57.9 billion to
the auto industry — including $26.8 billion
to Ford, Toyota and BMW.

The Fed on Wednesday was forced to reveal
the identity of the companies it aided during
the crisis, after contending to Congress that
keeping their identities and the details of
such lending secret was essential. Much of
Wall Street, and corporate giants such as
General Electric, Harley Davidson and
McDonald's, took advantage of the Fed's
help. We've done the math on how the Fed
propped up the auto industry.

While Chrysler and General Motors had to
go to Congress to beg for cash in 2008, every
other automaker's finance arm was having
trouble as well. Typically, once they lend
money to a buyer, they sell the loan, get the
cash upfront, then pump the proceeds back
into the business. They also take out short-term loans called commercial paper that
keeps the day-to-day business afloat. The
crash cut the circuit, raising the chances the
automakers couldn't make loans to buyers
and keep selling new vehicles.

That's where the Fed stepped in. In normal
circumstances, the Fed only lends money to
banks, leaving the decisions about who
should get credit to them. But when the
financial markets started to collapse in late
2008, the Fed set up several programs to
lend money directly to corporations, a
highly unusual step.

According to the data, from October 2008
through June 2009 the fed bought $45.1
billion in commercial paper from the credit
arms of four automakers - Ford, BMW,
Chrysler and Toyota - along with GMAC (the
former General Motors credit arm). Of those,
Ford sold the most, with $15.9 billion.

The Fed also lent $13 billion to investors
who bought bonds backed by loans to new
car buyers from automakers and banks. The
Fed made clear that while investors got the
loans, the move was meant to keep the
lenders in business; the credit arms of Ford,
Chrysler, Nissan, Volkswagen, Honda and
Hyundai all benefited directly.

Ford spokeswoman Christin Baker said the
two programs "addressed systemic failure in
the credit markets, and that neither program
was designed for a particular company, or
even a particular industry." Ford Credit has
disclosed through SEC filings and conference
calls with media and investors that it was
taking part in both programs.

BMW told Bloomberg that the Fed lending
"supported our financial profile and offered
us an additional funding source, especially
at times when the money markets and
capital markets did not function properly
and efficiently."

According to the Fed, the commercial paper
loans have been paid in full, while some $2
billion remains outstanding on loans for
bond investors.

The secrecy surrounding the details of the
loans only masked how much aid corporate
America and Wall Street needed. While
General Motors and Chrysler took the brunt
of the blowback for relying on government
handouts, the reveal of the Fed numbers
show that a far bigger slice of the U.S. auto
industry needed help.
 
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