27/F/India. Want a slave to write for my pleasure

[LaRascasse]

A huge understatement, that. We're talking about centuries of oppression and injustice here. So much more than mere 'rudeness'.

Okay I realize you're going to flame me for pointing this out, but what about the last 62 years of reverse-discrimination, DP? I am not trying to use this to defend an actual casteist slur (which I still believe LC didn't intend). But facts are our darling cunts... uhm politicians back home have repaid them back for all their injustices with a massive amount of interest. You know as well as I do what reservations have created.

Again, that is no reason for an actual casteist insult, but you might want to stop harping on the "centuries of oppression and injustice" rhetoric. Either that or join the Congress where such thought is celebrated.

As for actual casteism, you know my views well enough. Trust me, if I thought LC's initial statement was anything but meant as a joke, I would have been much more outraged than you.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Trust me, if I thought LC's initial statement was anything but meant as a joke, I would have been much more outraged than you.

And how can you decide-- on someone else's behalf-- that it was a joke? And why would that even matter? As Bramblethorn points out;

You threw sexist and (near enough) racist abuse at somebody who gave you no indication they were looking for that sort of thing. You don't get to be the sole arbiter of whether that was "not serious", any more than I get to punch a stranger in the face and then tell them they shouldn't be upset because it wasn't really a hard punch.

Lemme remind you that the someone else you decided for is female. and you KNOW shes had a lifetime of shitty remarks and assumptions about being a whore-- from complete strangers.

Actually, maybe you don't know that. Men rarely are met with the kind of sexual aggression that women get from men. Even I get it, and I'm not particularly cute or feminine.

Lovecraft used the term "low caste" once. The rest of his remarks were all about how worthless the lady is because she is female. Not any other reason. Not for what she said, which is all we really now about her. He can call that "busting her balls" but I can't see any acknowledgment of "balls" (I.E. maleness) in any of his remarks to her. It's all about her being female. The "low caste" is his excuse to go after her femaleness.

And I don't see Lovecraft offering that amount of sexually aggressive, personally demeaning, soulless disrespect to any men on their first post.

Lovecraft's actions here are so depressingly common amongst hetero men who call themselves Doms. Every single woman I know has been told she hasn't met the right man" no matter if they are lesbians, Dominant, asexual. The percentage of men who feel no compunction against shoving their wants in stranger's faces is appalling.

And the thing that makes it really bad is that no woman can ever be sure he won't follow the verbal assault with a physical one. There's even a term for it-- "Schrodinger's rapist." Women don't know if they'll be safe during an encounter with a strange man, until after the encounter is over.

Matter of fact, Schrodinger's rapist can be a man a woman knows. I got a call yesterday-- a woman I know was raped by the man she was dating. Violently. She's lost a tooth during the struggle. He's been stalking her at her workplace since then. She didn't want to have sex this one evening, see, and he did.

 

[LaRascasse]

Matter of fact, Schrodinger's rapist can be a man a woman knows. I got a call yesterday-- a woman I know was raped by the man she was dating. Violently. She's lost a tooth during the struggle. He's been stalking her at her workplace since then. She didn't want to have sex this one evening, see, and he did.

And that is a truly horrible crime. We all agree. No one will differ with you there.

I am not trying to defend the misogynist part of the comment, but the casteist part.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

This thread really opened a can of worms, didn't it?

 

[LaRascasse]

This thread really opened a can of worms, didn't it?

This thread would have quietly disappeared off the front page by now, but a comment by LC (which I hope was intended in jest) opened the proverbial can with damppanties and Stella really giving him a lashing.

BTW your AV is a still from A Clockwork Orange right? The book is on my list of "someday soon"

 

[LaRascasse]

@Stella- For further examples of what you described look no further than this. Classy huh?

 

[Stella_Omega]

And that is a truly horrible crime. We all agree. No one will differ with you there.

I am not trying to defend the misogynist part of the comment, but the casteist part.

It's one of those "legitimate rapes" as the current saying goes.

She's lost a lot of friends because she's pressing charges against such a nice guy. They've never been raped by him, so she's probably lying. And anyway, she's had sex with him before, so he had a right to force her to have sex with him this time. She's just a slut. Sluts have no rights. (That's what the republican party is saying these days, another reason why I am so emphatic here-- there are people who are actively trying to pass laws saying things like this.)

And that's where Lovecraft started off. Calling OP a whore first, so that he could say everything else to her.

Does my explanation make sense?

Lovecraft making a casteist joke is like... um.. someone walking right into quicksand that he doesn't think is so dangerous. He doesn't know jack shit about caste issues in India. He doesn't know that jokes about it aren't funny. He ought to know that he doesn't-- but he didn't care.

 

[damppanties]

Okay I realize you're going to flame me for pointing this out, but what about the last 62 years of reverse-discrimination, DP? I am not trying to use this to defend an actual casteist slur (which I still believe LC didn't intend). But facts are our darling cunts... uhm politicians back home have repaid them back for all their injustices with a massive amount of interest. You know as well as I do what reservations have created.

Again, that is no reason for an actual casteist insult, but you might want to stop harping on the "centuries of oppression and injustice" rhetoric. Either that or join the Congress where such thought is celebrated.

As for actual casteism, you know my views well enough. Trust me, if I thought LC's initial statement was anything but meant as a joke, I would have been much more outraged than you.

No, I am not going to flame you for pointing it out. There have been reservations against marginalized and oppressed people everywhere, all over the world. Whether that is wrong or right, should be done or not is another debate.

My point in that particular post you quoted was: The oppression that was done in the past CANNOT be called 'rudeness' as the person referred to it. No, the Nazi's were not rude to the Jews, the whites were not rude to black slaves, high castes were not rude to low castes. By terming it rudeness, you are taking something away from it, trivializing it.

In relation to that, absolutely nothing makes it okay to call someone a "low caste whore" even in jest or as a joke.

 

[Handley_Page]

In relation to that, absolutely nothing makes it okay to call someone a "low caste whore" even in jest or as a joke.

But which is the most important word here, low-caste or whore ?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Handley... You sound very confused here. This is what I would call '101' stuff. You've asked questions like these and been answered before; if you can't remember, then I fear it's no one else's problem but your own.

I'm sorry.

But which is the most important word here, low-caste or whore ?

Both words, my dear, are important.

both of those are insults, they are both demeaning, dehumanising, either one or both together can easily be an excuse for violence upon the person so called.

 

[Handley_Page]

Handley... You sound very confused here. This is what I would call '101' stuff. You've asked questions like these and been answered before; if you can't remember, then I fear it's no one else's problem but your own.

I'm sorry.

Both words, my dear, are important.

both of those are insults, they are both demeaning, dehumanising, either one or both together can easily be an excuse for violence upon the person so called.

Sweet Lady, my thanks (as ever) for your putting me right.
Be it noted please, I never did 100, let alone 101.
However, are we not in danger of looking at an old problem with new glasses and not seeing it in some sort of 'context of age' ?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Sweet Lady, my thanks (as ever) for your putting me right.
Be it noted please, I never did 100, let alone 101.
However, are we not in danger of looking at an old problem with new glasses and not seeing it in some sort of 'context of age' ?

Danger? What 'context of age' do you think would excuse or justify this behavior?

You DO understand that "being rude" as you put it, meant wanton murder and genocide, right? The lower castes, women, blacks... it isn't merely "rudeness." Unless "rude" has a stronger, far more violent meaning for you than it does me?

 

[Handley_Page]

Danger? What 'context of age' do you think would excuse or justify this behavior?

You DO understand that "being rude" as you put it, meant wanton murder and genocide, right? The lower castes, women, blacks... it isn't merely "rudeness." Unless "rude" has a stronger, far more violent meaning for you than it does me?

Nothing would 'justify' maltreatment, it's a simple case of civility; a civility not demonstrated by generations of the upper strata. Sadly, however, it is sometimes quoted by the 'lower orders' as an excuse to be just as horrible, if perhaps in a different way.

sorry; when did I use the term 'being rude' ?

 

[Stella_Omega]

This is what we are referring to;

I get the impression that a few are not quite aware of the implication of the caste system.

"Caste-ism"?.
Please: Do not presume to judge another's culture by the standards of ones own.

One caste has been very rude to another for centuries.
Until well after the War, when a bit of a sort-out was ordered (mostly as a result of Radio & TV into the rural areas, or so I am told), at which point, the barriers started to crumble. They have quite a way to go yet, I'm told.

Personally, I think the OP is a nutter, but that's a very personal view.

A huge understatement, that. We're talking about centuries of oppression and injustice here. So much more than mere 'rudeness'.

 

[Handley_Page]

This is what we are referring to;

Ah. My thanks again. Perhaps the expression "very rude" was a little too light (or too 'English'?) in this context.
Perhaps a more obvious word would have been better, although I'd hesitate to use "oppressive" just at the moment.

 

[sr71plt]

sorry; when did I use the term 'being rude' ?

Hmmm. Did anyone else notice that the "I" here originally was rendered "HP"? How many of you are posting to this thread, HP?

 

[Bramblethorn]

And anyway, she's had sex with him before, so he had a right to force her to have sex with him this time. She's just a slut. Sluts have no rights. (That's what the republican party is saying these days, another reason why I am so emphatic here-- there are people who are actively trying to pass laws saying things like this.)

Sadly the disease is not just restricted to the Right. I'm used to hearing anti-women bullshit from that side of politics, but a certain high-profile legal case has made it clear that a lot of supposed bleeding-heart lefties are quite happy to forget their vaunted feminism as soon as it gets in the way of something else. Who'd have thought I'd see John Pilger on TV saying that it's not really rape-rape if the woman had already given consent to a different activity at some other time?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ah. My thanks again. Perhaps the word "Rude" was a little too light (or too 'English'?) in this context.

As it happens, I had a window still open that preserves your post as it was before you edited it.

I would categorise your opinions as you stated them as... ever so 'English.'

It must be wonderful to live in your world... that's not a joke. to have that kind of privilege, that conviction that all the world is good and all folk behave with the best of intentions...

And I expect you'll all agree;
That he was right to so decree.
And I am right, And you are right,
And all is right as right can be...

Bless you, Handley.

 

[Handley_Page]

Hmmm. Did anyone else notice that the "I" here originally was rendered "HP"? How many of you are posting to this thread, HP?

I really thought Stella was confusing what I had written with someone else's entry (I'm not concentrating very well tonight as you can probably see). Then I realised my error and changed it to I.


And I expect you'll all agree;
That he was right to so decree.
And I am right, And you are right,
And all is right as right can be...

Bless you, Handley.

Pish-Tush, Pooh-Bah and Nanki-Poo ?

And Bless You, Stella. your wisdom exceeds mine by a long way. I just wish we weren't so far apart; I think I could learn a lot from you (and I must stress; in the best possible polite manner).

 

[Stella_Omega]

Sadly the disease is not just restricted to the Right. I'm used to hearing anti-women bullshit from that side of politics, but a certain high-profile legal case has made it clear that a lot of supposed bleeding-heart lefties are quite happy to forget their vaunted feminism as soon as it gets in the way of something else. Who'd have thought I'd see John Pilger on TV saying that it's not really rape-rape if the woman had already given consent to a different activity at some other time?

Also our very own Knight in Atheist Armor, Richard Dawkins. IMPORTANT Liberal men are to be protected ahead of any woman. And ASSANGE is one of the MOST IMPORTANT MEN IN THE WORRRLD.

But neither of them are pushing laws through state and federal government... Not to say they wouldn't try if they could. Schrodinger's oppressor.

There's a whole lot of Schrodinger going on these days...

 

[Handley_Page]

Also our very own Knight in Atheist Armor, Richard Dawkins. IMPORTANT Liberal men are to be protected ahead of any woman. And ASSANGE is one of the MOST IMPORTANT MEN IN THE WORRRLD.

But neither of them are pushing laws through state and federal government... Not to say they wouldn't try if they could. Schrodinger's oppressor.

There's a whole lot of Schrodinger going on these days...

Mee-Ow

 

[anon606]

Hi Literoticans

This is Affina from India.

I am 27 and a dominant by nature.

I am not a pro.

I want a slave to write for me as my slave writer.

I want s/he to do my bidding to make me happy

Goddess Affina

I'm totally with you, Affina, but what can ya do?

"My rank is the highest known in Switzerland: I am a free citizen." - Capt. Bluntschili
Act III "Arms and the Man" by George Bernard Shaw

 

[sexgenderbody]

Oh, I like them proud.

Goddess?

Spare me, most likely a low caste whore who thinks she's something.

Tell you what, why don't you crawl, I said crawl not walk, over here to me, and I'll be happy to use my fingers and type while you use your mouth to inspire me.

Worthless slut.

Hmmm, this would make an inserting scenario in the sexual role playing thread.

another clueless white dood, 28 y/o, living in his mom's basement and traumatized because she nags him to take out the garbage and laughs at his peaneaus.

dude, seriously...the less you speak to actual humans, the better it is for all involved.

 

[Stella_Omega]

another clueless white dood, 28 y/o, living in his mom's basement and traumatized because she nags him to take out the garbage and laughs at his peaneaus.

dude, seriously...the less you speak to actual humans, the better it is for all involved.

yeah.. You'd never expect, from that post, for him to be a seasoned and experienced Dom in a very mutual and satisfying relationship with a wonderful sub wife.

Everyone fucks up. The measure of a person is whether or not they can process their fuckup and learn from it-- and make an apology to anyone who bore the brunt of their boorishness.

It's not easy. Totally not. Me, I don't always manage to own my shit so well either. But it's totally crucial to do it. Every time I've failed-- I know I've lost something.

 

[lovecraft68]

another clueless white dood, 28 y/o, living in his mom's basement and traumatized because she nags him to take out the garbage and laughs at his peaneaus.

dude, seriously...the less you speak to actual humans, the better it is for all involved.

Oh, look an alt, and one that can't spell. Here, let me help you with the big words.

D-U-D-E

P-E-N-I-S

As I said to Stella learn to take a fucking joke(or just re-read your post)

I have nothing to prove to a moron like you or Stella or anyone else here for that matter.