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*snickers* Then you don't know me well enough by now. I refuse to talk in circles. I stand by my viewpoint and you can ask Ice. They aren't open for discussion. I respect that everyone has their own views and so long as I am not getting theirs shoved down my throat, we're cool.

It's not my opinion I've tried to shove down your throat.
 
It's not my house or my pets. I'm out seeing family, and trying to make these dogs better before I leave.

You know that you will not succeed. You'd need months, not days or even a few weeks. Dogs, in particular, require consistency that is systemic. It doesn't just establish rules and boundaries but provides comfort and stability.

If your family is unwilling to put in the time to train the animals then they'll end up with untrained animals. You can't help that.

It's noble that you intend to try, though. Unfortunately, when trashy people take on animals they raise trashy animals. And those animals, by no fault of their own, end up in shelters or euthanized.
 
You know that you will not succeed. You'd need months, not days or even a few weeks. Dogs, in particular, require consistency that is systemic. It doesn't just establish rules and boundaries but provides comfort and stability.

If your family is unwilling to put in the time to train the animals then they'll end up with untrained animals. You can't help that.

It's noble that you intend to try, though. Unfortunately, when trashy people take on animals they raise trashy animals. And those animals, by no fault of their own, end up in shelters or euthanized.

As much as I hate to agree with Ice. Ever. He hit it on the head here.

Even if by some miracle you did manage to make an impact SB the moment you leave and the owner falls into their old habits, the dog is going to as well. Dogs take their lead from the alpha.
 
*grins* Anything for you, Daddy. :kiss:



I thought so. Mine always have.

:kiss:

I missed the conversation, but I am going to add my two cents anyway.

Demanding shit from a submissive just because you can is stupid. One can only hope that eventually they will see the pattern and wise up.

Nothing wrong with ASKING someone to do something for you because you are otherwise occupied.

D/s Relationships are not a great deal different from any other relationship. It takes two people to make it work, and it takes two people to make it rotten.

I know Cait would do just about anything for me. You know why that is? Because it is completely reciprocated. Not only that but there is mutual respect between us. I know she would do anything for me, and I do not abuse that fact.
 
Jesus H Christ


Can we just get a caterer and everyone can go fuck off and have a sandwich?
 
You know that you will not succeed. You'd need months, not days or even a few weeks. Dogs, in particular, require consistency that is systemic. It doesn't just establish rules and boundaries but provides comfort and stability.

If your family is unwilling to put in the time to train the animals then they'll end up with untrained animals. You can't help that.

It's noble that you intend to try, though. Unfortunately, when trashy people take on animals they raise trashy animals. And those animals, by no fault of their own, end up in shelters or euthanized.

Well, the hope was to show them what to do, too, so they can keep it going after I'm gone. But that doesn't seem to be taking with dog or person.

The absurdity is that, of the three dogs here, one is the mother of my dog, and the other two are his brothers.. one from the same litter, one from a different one. I know these dogs are smart enough to be fantastic, because my dog is. They just.. have to want them to be.
 
So FD mentions "Slenderman" Yesterday... and today my niece tells me she's going to be him for Halloween.
(Don't ask me how old she is. 8? 9? 10? Somewhere in those three? I don't remember.)
 
You're not suppose to do that? I use to.

Hers sure as hell didn't handle it. I just spend twenty minute plunging the damn sink. The one other time I've done it myself it turned out to be a mistake, too.

Vegetation in general, unless it's cooked, I just avoid putting down in it. Just seems to work better that way.
 
Well, the hope was to show them what to do, too, so they can keep it going after I'm gone. But that doesn't seem to be taking with dog or person.

The absurdity is that, of the three dogs here, one is the mother of my dog, and the other two are his brothers.. one from the same litter, one from a different one. I know these dogs are smart enough to be fantastic, because my dog is. They just.. have to want them to be.

90% of the time you can teach a dog just about anything with persistence, consistency, and the right amount of love. Even dogs that have been abused. They want to fall into the social structure, they want to be part of the pack.

But you are not the alpha. You are not who they take ques from. They might even listen to you for a little while, but unless you decide to stay there? It won't matter in the end. I understand your frustration though.

I have one dog who is really high energy, and really stubborn. He was difficult to train, and often decides when he wants to listen and when he doesn't to a great deal of commands. When he gets really hyped up you have to remind him that he HAS to listen to you. He is also extremely smart. It is a consistent challenge.

Then again when you get him tired? He is the sweetest thing in the whole world. Usually his energy just gets in the way.
 
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