Liberal professors admit to openly discriminating against conservative peers

[Dixon Carter Lee]

How would you suspect the fact that 95% of faculty is either liberal or liberal leaning has come to be? Would you be suspecting a bias if these individuals were equal in all things short of being black? female?

Just FYI, interesting study!

Since the study was about education I don't think "Black" or "Female" are equivalent attributes here (unless we're talking about a system that still thinks blacks and females are intellectually inferior, which may certainly be the case in some places).

Your question is why are so many faculty members liberal?

First of all, I'm not sure where your 95% figure comes from. The study wasn't about all faulty. It was about social and personality psychologists. So let's just stick to that.

I would say that, despite the suspect science of the study, that the conclusions are accurate -- that scientists prefer liberal colleagues (that's my simplification of the findings). My guess as to "why that is" might be that liberalism is more tolerant of the things science demands (measured observation, nuance, a willingness to not conclude too soon, testing, an unwillingness to codify, the practice of accepting new information and applying it models, etc.) than conservatism, which, traditionally, sticks to the ball game they want to play. That is my unscientific, non-peer-reviewed, simple response to your question.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

And I thought from your post you were actually interested in academic honesty, my fault for that mistaken belief, as I answered in an academically factual manner.

No you didn't. You made up a 95% figure, for example.

 

[coachdb18]

Since the study was about education I don't think "Black" or "Female" are equivalent attributes here (unless we're talking about a system that still thinks blacks and females are intellectually inferior, which may certainly be the case in some places).

Your question is why are so many faculty members liberal?

First of all, I'm not sure where your 95% figure comes from. The study wasn't about all faulty. It was about social and personality psychologists. So let's just stick to that.

I would say that, despite the suspect science of the study, that the conclusions are accurate -- that scientists prefer liberal colleagues (that's my simplification of the findings). My guess as to "why that is" might be that liberalism is more tolerant of the things science demands (measured observation, nuance, a willingness to not conclude too soon, testing, an unwillingness to codify, the practice of accepting new information and applying it models, etc.) than conservatism, which, traditionally, sticks to the ball game they want to play. That is my unscientific, non-peer-reviewed, simple response to your question.

Science should be more deliberate (conservative) than to just pull something out of your ass and go with it (liberal), while at the same time being willing to break new ground. We both have our viewpoints of value, and the current academic environment eliminates a lot of human potential. I wonder how much human potential has been wasted through such prejudicial elimination of thought in the Ivy League?

 

[coachdb18]

No you didn't. You made up a 95% figure, for example.

With a few exceptions, conservative professors are already a rarity on college campuses. Studies have shown that an overwhelming majority of political donations from professors at America’s top university’s go to liberal candidates. Approximately 40% of the population of the United States holds conservative beliefs, but only 5% of college professors identify as conservative.

Didn't make up a fucking thing .. it was in the original article I posted... you have to read...

 

[RjThoughts]

Science should be more deliberate (conservative) than to just pull something out of your ass and go with it (liberal), while at the same time being willing to break new ground. We both have our viewpoints of value, and the current academic environment eliminates a lot of human potential. I wonder how much human potential has been wasted through such prejudicial elimination of thought in the Ivy League?

Both Bushes were educated at Yale, an Ivy League school. Are you saying that they're liberal because they attended it?

Donald Trump attended UPenn's business school. Are you saying he's liberal?

 

[RjThoughts]

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Didn't make up a fucking thing .. it was in the original article I posted... you have to read...

Did the other 95% say they were liberal? What's the EXACT number? How many left it blank?

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Science should be more deliberate (conservative) than to just pull something out of your ass and go with it (liberal), while at the same time being willing to break new ground. We both have our viewpoints of value, and the current academic environment eliminates a lot of human potential. I wonder how much human potential has been wasted through such prejudicial elimination of thought in the Ivy League?

Well, you tried there in the first sentence to make it sound like your definitions of conservatism and liberalism are de rigger, but, you know, as the kids say -- Fail.

And, again, you keep talking about the "current academic environment" as if that's what this study is talking about. For the second time, the study didn't speak to "all current academics", it spoke to a few hundred social and personality psychologists. And it did so without a control group.

Your conclusions are based on bad or made up information.

Which is bad science -- you conservative you.

 

[rosco rathbone]

i don't understand what draws these people to the General Board. Is it just because it's a highly trafficked site? Or is it some kind of backwoods hillbilly desire to preach from a soapbox to the fallen sinners and loose women of the big city, like something out of a Flannery OConnor novella.

Horny libertarians like Ishmael or AJ I can see since despite their crankiness they don't really give a fuck who does what to who as long as their taxes stay low. But what is up with these redstaters and crybaby conservatives who come to an anything-goes, hypertolerant cesspool of sin like Literotica and then get bent out of shape when they get laughed at?

Is it some kind of masochism?

 

[RjThoughts]

i don't understand what draws these people to the General Board. Is it just because it's a highly trafficked site? Or is it some kind of backwoods hillbilly desire to preach from a soapbox to the fallen sinners and loose women of the big city, like something out of a Flannery OConnor novella.

Horny libertarians like Ishmael or AJ I can see since despite their crankiness they don't really give a fuck who does what to who as long as their taxes stay low. But what is up with these redstaters and crybaby conservatives who come to an anything-goes, hypertolerant cesspool of sin like Literotica and then get bent out of shape when they get laughed at?

Is it some kind of masochism?

I believe it's their way to bring us sinners to Jesus, to show us that our sinful ways will lead us to Hell.

That or some just love to argue. *Shrugs shoulders*

 

[coachdb18]

Well, you tried there in the first sentence to make it sound like your definitions of conservatism and liberalism are de rigger, but, you know, as the kids say -- Fail.

And, again, you keep talking about the "current academic environment" as if that's what this study is talking about. For the second time, the study didn't speak to "all current academics", it spoke to a few hundred social and personality psychologists. And it did so without a control group.

Your conclusions are based on bad or made up information.

Which is bad science -- you conservative you.

My first sentence is juxtaposed to your first sentence, just opposing views..

If you just want to say you're a liberal that doesn't like the premise that your kind discriminate willfully, why don't you just fucking say so instead of feigning academic disallowances of such a study on scientific grounds? It's a wider question than just one study, expand your mind to discuss the issue....

 

[cjh]

i don't understand what draws these people to the General Board. Is it just because it's a highly trafficked site? Or is it some kind of backwoods hillbilly desire to preach from a soapbox to the fallen sinners and loose women of the big city, like something out of a Flannery OConnor novella.

Horny libertarians like Ishmael or AJ I can see since despite their crankiness they don't really give a fuck who does what to who as long as their taxes stay low. But what is up with these redstaters and crybaby conservatives who come to an anything-goes, hypertolerant cesspool of sin like Literotica and then get bent out of shape when they get laughed at?

Is it some kind of masochism?

Were you a member of Mensa, you'd understand.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

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Didn't make up a fucking thing .. it was in the original article I posted... you have to read...

Your "article" was a recap of the Washington Times article, which I've discredited. Come up with a real source for that 95% figure.

By the way, In March The Washington Times said it was 75%.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8427-2005Mar28.html

 

[kbate]

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Didn't make up a fucking thing .. it was in the original article I posted... you have to read...

No. Your OP states that only 5% identify as conservative. That does not indicate in any way that 95% identify as liberal.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Were you a member of Mensa, you'd understand.

Are bogus claims of Mensa membership being bandied about now?

 

[coachdb18]

Your "article" was a recap of the Washington Times article, which I've discredited. Come up with a real source for that 95% figure.

By the way, In March The Washington Times said it was 75%.

You set out to discredit the article, feigning academic rigor. Bias by any measure, now of your own admission. When I told you that I wasn't vouching for any academic rigor of that partcular article, or any article short of through peer review, you throw a tantrum with epithets... very academic of you! I'm interested in the subject, while also open to the value of individual contributions. You're very closed minded for a 'diversity' guy.

 

[coachdb18]

No. Your OP states that only 5% identify as conservative. That does not indicate in any way that 95% identify as liberal.

go back to bed with your feet in the air, sweetheart.. this ones beyond you!

 

[kbate]

i don't understand what draws these people to the General Board. Is it just because it's a highly trafficked site? Or is it some kind of backwoods hillbilly desire to preach from a soapbox to the fallen sinners and loose women of the big city, like something out of a Flannery OConnor novella.

Horny libertarians like Ishmael or AJ I can see since despite their crankiness they don't really give a fuck who does what to who as long as their taxes stay low. But what is up with these redstaters and crybaby conservatives who come to an anything-goes, hypertolerant cesspool of sin like Literotica and then get bent out of shape when they get laughed at?

Is it some kind of masochism?

I object. I am not hyper-tolerant. This was your peer review.

 

[RjThoughts]

I object. I am not hyper-tolerant. This was your peer review.

Okay, that made me chuckle, in a Non-Mensa member way.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

You set out to discredit the article, feigning academic rigor. Bias by any measure, now of your own admission. When I told you that I wasn't vouching for any academic rigor of that partcular article, or any article short of through peer review, you throw a tantrum with epithets... very academic of you! I'm interested in the subject, while also open to the value of individual contributions. You're very closed minded for a 'diversity' guy.

This is a serious question ---

How old are you?

 

[kbate]

go back to bed with your feet in the air, sweetheart.. this ones beyond you!

Invincible Ignorance again.

 

[cjh]

Are bogus claims of Mensa membership being bandied about now?

oh!, you were on sabbatical then.

i'll root around.

Well, I guess that's what a union backed public school education has come to! Semen? Really... that's the best you can do! I feel like I'm wasting a good MENSA membership even playing here!

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=41135338&postcount=4

Are you now planning to send a Holder led Brownshirt posse to take away my MENSA membership and all the University degrees I've earned? Damn, you Marxists are a tough group..... maybe I'm headed to one of your re-education camps after all

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=41153515&postcount=20

 

[coachdb18]

This is a serious question ---

How old are you?

Serious questions don't belong on Literotica, obviously there is no respect nor acceptance of such, and never will be. I thought better of you... till now.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Serious questions don't belong on Literotica, obviously there is no respect nor acceptance of such, and never will be. I thought better of you... till now.

So, 19.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I object. I am not hyper-tolerant. This was your peer review.

Does this mean my work won't be getting published in the New England Journal of Big Babyism and Whining Victimology?

 

[coachdb18]

So, 19.

at least.. and thanks for giving me those years back... only on Literotica LOL