Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm better off but mostly cuz I retired, and plenty of expenses went away when I stopped driving so much, and have lotsa time to do my own chores.

 

[Recidiva]

You didnt do it, someone else did it.

This doesn't make sense to me, therefore I cannot respond as no matter what I picked, I'd be wrong.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

This doesn't make sense to me, therefore I cannot respond as no matter what I picked, I'd be wrong.

Someone else made you better off. Youre the passive recipient of what others did for you.

 

[Recidiva]

Someone else made you better off. Youre the passive recipient of what others did for you.

I...strike you as passive? Interesting.

 

[coachdb18]

Great Scott!

Everybody stand back...the man has a graph.

People have stopped even looking for work... at the same time the unemployment rate of those who are looking is going up. That's terrible for the economy, and for the country.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Someone else made you better off. Youre the passive recipient of what others did for you.

Most of them did not do it for you. They just did it and we are all the passive recipients of what others did.

 

[Recidiva]

People have stopped even looking for work... at the same time the unemployment rate of those who are looking is going up. That's terrible for the economy, and for the country.

All sympathies to those who are fallen on hard times. But the way out of it is not apathy, blame and helplessness.

This is not Armageddon. There is opportunity. In my experience the people who remain unemployed are the ones not willing to accept a job they consider "beneath them."

Get one of those jobs, there are plenty. Then you start there and you work your way up.

Hanging around waiting for someone to offer a full benefits package in whatever you decided would be a fun major in college does not qualify as hardship, it qualifies as ego on ice.

 

[coachdb18]

Someone else made you better off. Youre the passive recipient of what others did for you.

Fact of the matter is, all that infrastructure is the result of business output, not government largesse. The government only takes money from production, and makes no product. It is strictly our money. WE paid for it in the first place.

People and their work create governments, governments don't create people nor their productive effort.

 

[coachdb18]

All sympathies to those who are fallen on hard times. But the way out of it is not apathy, blame and helplessness.

This is not Armageddon. There is opportunity. In my experience the people who remain unemployed are the ones not willing to accept a job they consider "beneath them."

Get one of those jobs, there are plenty. Then you start there and you work your way up.

Hanging around waiting for someone to offer a full benefits package in whatever you decided would be a fun major in college does not qualify as hardship, it qualifies as ego on ice.

There is opportunity, and there is the government working with all its efforts to kill that opportunity that exists. Taxes and regulations are equivalent to strangling a man in ICU on a ventilator.... he may survive, but his chances would be better without the hands around his throat.

 

[Recidiva]

There is opportunity, and there is the government working with all its efforts to kill that opportunity that exists. Taxes and regulations are equivalent to strangling a man in ICU on a ventilator.... he may survive, but his chances would be better without the hands around his throat.

And there is apparently paranoia. You're not making things better. You're insisting that they must be worse than they are and you're giving people reasons to fail instead of inspiration to succeed despite difficult odds.

 

[coachdb18]

And there is apparently paranoia. You're not making things better. You're insisting that they must be worse than they are and you're giving people reasons to fail instead of inspiration to succeed despite difficult odds.

Taking the goverment off our backs is the equivalent of shooting a mugger. Paranoia is an inappropriate analogy, as the government taxation and regulation that are causing harm are real and documented sources of unemployment and lowered quality of life. I'm offering solutions, not just 'reasons to fail'. The failure will only continue if there are no solutions and changes of direction.

 

[ryan8558]

Since January 20, 2009:

Dow up 48%
S&P up 60%
NASDAQ up 90%

If you're not doing better, maybe you should look in the mirror to find the problem.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/201...es-growth-in-health-care-spending-health-care

 

[Recidiva]

Taking the goverment off our backs is the equivalent of shooting a mugger. Paranoia is an inappropriate analogy, as the government taxation and regulation that are causing harm are real and documented sources of unemployment and lowered quality of life. I'm offering solutions, not just 'reasons to fail'. The failure will only continue if there are no solutions and changes of direction.

The government is a necessity. Anarchy is not a viable solution. We can quibble from there, but the reality is that tax rates are pretty damned low historically and the financial crisis was not brought on by our current administration, they just have to deal with it and have done better than predicted.

No miracles from government? Grow up. Don't expect them. Expect to have to work three times as hard as you expect to have to work and get on with doing it.

 

[tinylittlegnat]

There is opportunity, and there is the government working with all its efforts to kill that opportunity that exists. Taxes and regulations are equivalent to strangling a man in ICU on a ventilator.... he may survive, but his chances would be better without the hands around his throat.

Taxation under Clinton and Reagan were higher and worse yet the country thrived. History refutes your claim.

 

[Recidiva]

Taxation under Clinton and Reagan were higher and worse yet the country thrived. History tefures your claim.

Best misspelling of refutes ever. Sounds like a dessert.

 

[mercury14]

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2002_2012_all_period_M07_data.gif

Civilian labor force participation rate (Source: Bureau Labor Statistics)

So the baby boomer generation retired and put more citizens in the retiree group than any time in history. Exactly who are you blaming?

 

[Bad_Doggie]

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2002_2012_all_period_M07_data.gif

Civilian labor force participation rate (Source: Bureau Labor Statistics)

It’s great the way you can conveniently forget how we got here.

Woof!

 

[tinylittlegnat]

People have stopped even looking for work... at the same time the unemployment rate of those who are looking is going up. That's terrible for the economy, and for the country.

If they have stopped looking then they are nor unemployed then simply do not want to work.

I am curious coach what do you do for a living that you have the free time to make up lies about our govt all day on a porn message board.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

All sympathies to those who are fallen on hard times. But the way out of it is not apathy, blame and helplessness.

This is not Armageddon. There is opportunity. In my experience the people who remain unemployed are the ones not willing to accept a job they consider "beneath them."

Get one of those jobs, there are plenty. Then you start there and you work your way up.

Hanging around waiting for someone to offer a full benefits package in whatever you decided would be a fun major in college does not qualify as hardship, it qualifies as ego on ice.

I like your spirit, you should pass it around.

Woof!

 

[tinylittlegnat]

Best misspelling of refutes ever. Sounds like a dessert.

That's what happens when you post from a phone I guess.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The answer to this question is so obvious:

If you are a LeftLitster - you are vastly better off, having ridden every uptick in the market with adroit poise and having sold any potential losers seconds before the market drops.

If you are a Litwingnut - you are barely above poverty, having been crushed by regulation, taxes, ongoing war, new war and health care legislation.

Both sides are liars - most people are in much the same as they were on Nov 1, 2008.

Pfft...I invite you to attempt to explain the "AJ conundrum" then! To wit: A man who has timed the market for the past 4 years, making extraordinary amounts of money by buyin' low and sellin' high, while simultaneously preachin' doom 'n gloom for the rest of the sweaty masses, due to the horrible economic mismanagement of one B. Hussein Obama (America's first Kenyan president).

 

[coachdb18]

Since January 20, 2009:

Dow up 48%
S&P up 60%
NASDAQ up 90%

If you're not doing better, maybe you should look in the mirror to find the problem.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/201...es-growth-in-health-care-spending-health-care

Adolf Hitlers economic record tops that by orders of magnitude, having gone from the Weimar inflation of the Reichmark to the top economy of Europe...

Could something like this happen today? Not exactly. What will likely happen could easily be worse than Weimar Germany. You see, the mark wasn't the foundation of the world's economy. Today, more than 60% of all bank reserves around the world are U.S. Treasury obligations. As the U.S. continues to run massive annual deficits and as the Fed engages in "quantitative easing," the world's supply of money is growing, by large amounts. Sooner or later, people holding paper money of every variety, not just Uncle Sam's, will come to doubt its most important quality – the stability of its exchange value. The resulting massive inflation will not merely strike the U.S., but the entire world.

 

[Recidiva]

I like your spirit, you should pass it around.

Woof!

Oh yeah, you like me just fine when I agree with you

 

[bronzeage]

Best misspelling of refutes ever. Sounds like a dessert.

Probably something Mexican, with caramel and cinnamon sauce.

 

[Recidiva]

Probably something Mexican, with caramel and cinnamon sauce.

Mmm.. I could go for some terufes and a dessert coffee.