Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

[mercury14]

I'm better off in almost every way. Especially financially.

 

[Adre]

The government WILL be coming for it, you did NOT do it, or haven't you heard. It's not yours, and you will be giving it up. Just look at France... and look at the trend to take 401(k), savings, to tax more, to find more ways of creating class warfare.... so there is nothing to aspire to, or as you say, you 'did it', because it is after all just government money that doesn't really belong to you after all.

Well, I'm enjoying spending it, whether it belongs to me or not.

 

[Adre]

I'm better off in almost every way. Especially financially.

I think we're conversing with pissed off losers. That's all I can figure.

 

[coachdb18]

Well, I'm enjoying spending it, whether it belongs to me or not.

So you're telling me it isn't Republicans, but liberals who are the real 1%'ers who are the 'greedy bastards', who take and don't give back to the poor, and watch from their gated manisons while the millions starve at the base of the hill before them?

 

[Recidiva]

So you're telling me it isn't Republicans, but liberals who are the real 1%'ers who are the 'greedy bastards', who take and don't give back to the poor, and watch from their gated manisons while the millions starve at the base of the hill before them?

What we're telling you is that the gloom and doom isn't universal.

You're making the rest of it up and accusing those who are thriving of doing so to spite others instead of being either good at what they do or lucky.

 

[coachdb18]

I think we're conversing with pissed off losers. That's all I can figure.

Let them eat cakes!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Koningin_marie-antoinette.jpg

 

[Adre]

So you're telling me it isn't Republicans, but liberals who are the real 1%'ers who are the 'greedy bastards', who take and don't give back to the poor, and watch from their gated manisons while the millions starve at the base of the hill before them?

I'm a registered Independent.

 

[mercury14]

So you're telling me it isn't Republicans, but liberals who are the real 1%'ers who are the 'greedy bastards', who take and don't give back to the poor, and watch from their gated manisons while the millions starve at the base of the hill before them?

I think you should take responsibility for your problems. If you're not doing very well then man up and do something about it. Get an education or move to where you can get a better job. Do whatever you have to do to make it work. Sitting around crying about your life on a porn board, blaming other people for your woes isn't going to make your life better.

 

[kbate]

The answer to this question is so obvious:

If you are a LeftLitster - you are vastly better off, having ridden every uptick in the market with adroit poise and having sold any potential losers seconds before the market drops.

If you are a Litwingnut - you are barely above poverty, having been crushed by regulation, taxes, ongoing war, new war and health care legislation.

Both sides are liars - most people are in much the same as they were on Nov 1, 2008.

 

[tinylittlegnat]

Resize your shit coach or off to iggy land with busybody you will go.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Everybody is allowed a fuck up or two. Sheesh. You'd think he was eating babies.

 

[coachdb18]

Resize your shit coach or off to iggy land with busybody you will go.

NMP....

 

[busybody..]

The answer to this question is so obvious:

If you are a LeftLitster - you are vastly better off, having ridden every uptick in the market with adroit poise and having sold any potential losers seconds before the market drops.

If you are a Litwingnut - you are barely above poverty, having been crushed by regulation, taxes, ongoing war, new war and health care legislation.

Both sides are liars - most people are in much the same as they were on Nov 1, 2008.

there is the LaLez,

I know and "love"

 

[mercury14]

The answer to this question is so obvious:

If you are a LeftLitster - you are vastly better off, having ridden every uptick in the market with adroit poise and having sold any potential losers seconds before the market drops.

If you are a Litwingnut - you are barely above poverty, having been crushed by regulation, taxes, ongoing war, new war and health care legislation.

Both sides are liars - most people are in much the same as they were on Nov 1, 2008.

Most people get raises and make positive career changes as the years go by... Most folks should be a little better off on average.

My wife and I were in the Air Force. Now we're not and we make triple what we did before. And we don't have deployments keeping us apart.

 

[coachdb18]

The answer to this question is so obvious:

If you are a LeftLitster - you are vastly better off, having ridden every uptick in the market with adroit poise and having sold any potential losers seconds before the market drops.

If you are a Litwingnut - you are barely above poverty, having been crushed by regulation, taxes, ongoing war, new war and health care legislation.

Both sides are liars - most people are in much the same as they were on Nov 1, 2008.

Pretty obviously the country has 15% of the population out of work, the average salary for the average American has been dropping, the future generations outlook is bleaker than today, and the ones here who profess caring so deeply about it that they feel the need for more entitlements, are simply looking out for themselves, that is until the government comes to 'redistribute' their money to pay for it all.

 

[mercury14]

Pretty obviously the country has 15% of the population out of work, the average salary for the average American has been dropping, the future generations outlook is bleaker than today, and the ones here who profess caring so deeply about it that they feel the need for more entitlements, are simply looking out for themselves, that is until the government comes to 'redistribute' their money to pay for it all.

Hey dingus. Four years ago the US was shedding -600,000 jobs per month. Tell us how you were better in that economy than the one today.

Remember how you bitched this week about the job numbers only being +163,000? Yeah.... That's a +763,000 job per month change for the better. But I'd love to hear your reasons for thinking it's worse.

 

[rosco rathbone]

He sings and dances while people are in distress, taunting the very pain he's inflicted, like a mob hitman. And now he has said entrepreneurs who have taken risks and worked endless hours, investing their futures to build businesses 'You didn't build that'! He's a madman, a psychotic fuck of the same standing as Caligula...

I really don't like the guy much, and we could do much better than his brand of warmed over Republicanism, but I'm voting for him just to make people like you wail and gnash their teeth. That prospect gives me much pleasure.

 

[MKvDeepSea]

I'm much better off under a democrat

I've always been better off under a democrat. Spent twenty years on the miltitary and found that I did better under a democrat. Thanks for asking.

 

[Noor]

No, I am not, at least not economically, neither are many of my friends or relations.

People living off retirement investments are not either.

Is it Obama's fault? Not entirely, its the fault of the US government, the voters and the world in general. I don't think Obama's policies helped, but would anyone's?

People's greed, options, future, derivatives, valuing a company based on its stock value rather than its profits are all to blame. <-This has been going on sometime. The idea that people are entitled to things they don't have the money or income for is also, like home ownership.

The bank bail out was insane, the whole idea that we can suddenly shop entirely locally is insane. We are all citizens of a world economy now, you really can't turn back the clock.

 

[Noor]

Pretty obviously the country has 15% of the population out of work, the average salary for the average American has been dropping, the future generations outlook is bleaker than today, and the ones here who profess caring so deeply about it that they feel the need for more entitlements, are simply looking out for themselves, that is until the government comes to 'redistribute' their money to pay for it all.

Unemployment numbers include only those actively receiving unemployment compensation, so the number of people not working is actually much higher.

 

[coachdb18]

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2002_2012_all_period_M07_data.gif

Civilian labor force participation rate (Source: Bureau Labor Statistics)

 

[phrodeau]

Unemployment numbers include only those actively receiving unemployment compensation, so the number of people not working is actually much higher.

Especially if you count all the people who are retired, disabled or going to school.

 

[tinylittlegnat]

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2002_2012_all_period_M07_data.gif

Civilian labor force participation rate (Source: Bureau Labor Statistics)

So basically you want to bring back Clinton. Your graph shows the falling started in 2002 possibly sooner.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So...someone is actually doing well and it's their fault? It is possible to thrive through difficult circumstances. Blaming someone's ability to thrive is really not all that productive and just shows how partisan you want to make it.

My sympathies to people not doing well, but it isn't all of us.

You didnt do it, someone else did it.

 

[Recidiva]

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/latest_numbers_LNS11300000_2002_2012_all_period_M07_data.gif

Civilian labor force participation rate (Source: Bureau Labor Statistics)

Great Scott!

Everybody stand back...the man has a graph.