'Rights' for women and blacks, a different perspective...

amicus

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On the general level, even I 'believed' that all humans had the innate self evident right to life, liberty and property. Mayhaps I erred?

Women are, at best, emotional, irrational flighty flibbertigibbets who should never be trusted with a telephone, an automobile or a bank account.

Africans, Nobama included, are barely two hundered years out of tribal existence in the jongle(song).

Hispanics are centuries away from recovering from the Oppressiion of the Spanish Catholic church and are totally lost without a 'father figure', a strong forcfeful leader who promises manna for all and heaven on earth, Nobama style. (Aspirin and Foodstams for all.)l

Just words thus far... so pay heed to the following observations which little ole you, my Marxist fuck buddies, should be able to follow.

Most of Asia,including Japan, Australia and New Zealand have banned the immigration of Blacks for nearly a century. Why?

Most of the world still holds women as second class citizens, Muslems, a billion and a half or so, China and India, and every communist country left in existence. Women's Lib and civil rights for Blacks, exists in only that small western civilization part of the woild; say it ain't so, Jo and Joe?

Without the Liberal left wing rose colored glasses on, I ask you to objectively observe the chaos created in the family and indeed the entire structure of the Nation since the advent of the full citizenship for women.

Is it possible that the 'right ' thing to do, free women, was, in fact, the wrong thing to do?

I wrote that it might be hundredes of years before the effect of Christ and the Church waned enough to allow Hispanics to acutally think individually instead of chanting tribal rituals several times a week, or day, in some really icky religions. But perhaps the genetically passed along, intellectual dependcy, will always be with us.


With an average IQ of 90, Africans will never escape the sentence nature imposed upon them. A caucasian or an Asian with an IQ of 90 and below, is considered retarded and basically wards of the State, but then, isn't that the case with Blacks even now?

There will be a War, a conflict, between East and West, but it won't be over oil or territory, it will be over women; free or subjugated.

JBJ...you might use your professional education to comment on the following: Those of us who have always fought and advocated human individual liberty for all, have perhaps not taken into consideration that many, if not most , can not deal with freedom, liberty, choice, self realization and responsiblility. Like the theists and the ideologues, they all want a daddy and a teatto suck upon when the thunder comes.

If women,blacks and hispaniccs in America respresent the result of living in freedom, I suggest, again perhaps, we might re think the long term value of individual liberty in society at large.


The African situation, with average low IQ is fairly easy to understand, even for the left. That women, under Sharia, and in fact, the Koran, desire, require and demand oppression and protection from the fairly recent arrival of emancipation.

The continuing scourge of faith and belief in a supreme being and an afterlife, if only you tithe to the local shaman, will only die out slowly, and then if only the educational quality moves away from Pubic (?) to private, as forced, mandatory, treadmill indoctrinatin seemed to work for raising German and Russian foot soldier fodder for the cannon, it does not appear to provide a quality education for those with a mind and free will.

I shudda bin a Mormon, Patriarch to 25 wives and 78 chilcren, oh, wait,I already have that! (heh) :rose:

Amicus Veritas a rose :rose: fer me too
 
A caucasian or an Asian with an IQ of 90 and below, is considered retarded and basically wards of the State

Mental retardation, or "Amicus syndrome" as it is popularly known, is defined as an IQ below 70.

Sorry that doesn't fit neatly into your "Blacks are stoopid" meme.
 
Mental retardation, or "Amicus syndrome" as it is popularly known, is defined as an IQ below 70.

Sorry that doesn't fit neatly into your "Blacks are stoopid" meme.

Did he ever tell us how many of of his plethora of well-educated children went to public schools?
 
Do you have a source on that average IQ?

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Formerly, I included source references for almost everything out of the odrdinary I offered here. It became pointless as everyone questioned everyone's sources as biased, outdated or offered a conflicting point of view.

Under the key word search: fact:IQ averages of Negroids

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/iq.htm

I would like to have found a better reference from past studies and such, but it is not politically correct to even think that intelligence quotients vary on a racial basis.

I will look again under different key words and maybe find an University study somewhere.

It is amicusveritas because I am a friend of truth.... I think it is better to know t he truth than believe in anything...

ami
 
JBJ...you might use your professional education to comment on the following: Those of us who have always fought and advocated human individual liberty for all, have perhaps not taken into consideration that many, if not most , can not deal with freedom, liberty, choice, self realization and responsiblility. Like the theists and the ideologues, they all want a daddy and a teatto suck upon when the thunder comes.


Freedom is a real pain in the ass for most folks. I suspect its more because theyre lazy or got nuthin better to do with their time than gas Jews and sell lap dances. And plenty are scared of inviting criticism if their choices turn into shit. Its a lot easier to just gas Jews for 8 hours, go home to some hot meatloaf and cold nookie, and have a paycheck on Friday.

I mean, look at the DOW. We're in a world of shit yet the DOW had a good week, cuz people are licking their chops that more stimulus at almost no interest is likely. If unemployment rises next week they'll be dancing in the streets.
 
Amicus?

William J. Calvin already confirmed that life in Africa, with plentiful bananas and monkey meat, predisposes blacks to mediocrity. Their antecedents never had cause to use their noodles for the kaleidoscopic changes occidentals and orientals cope with.
 
Somewhere, JBJ. in my ill begotten youth, I ran across a fella named Heinlein and Lazarus Long, which gave me an optimism about human life which has not proven accurate in real life.

For, 'Gump' (racial IQ differences University study Stanford Binet) searching those words on google givesone several pages of materialto wade through.

One could almost wish there were no such measure of human intelligence as it can be so very destructive to a child with a low IQ. My close but distant friends always turn out to be in the 160 plus range, with a few in the 180 category. From their life experiences, a high IQ does not bring happiness or satisfaction along with it. And...I might add, they seem to be mainly artists and musicians, or writers and poets...I wonder why? (smiles)

ami
 
If I ever start a ska band, I'll totally name it Marxist Fuck Buddies.
 
Somewhere, JBJ. in my ill begotten youth, I ran across a fella named Heinlein and Lazarus Long, which gave me an optimism about human life which has not proven accurate in real life.

For, 'Gump' (racial IQ differences University study Stanford Binet) searching those words on google givesone several pages of materialto wade through.

One could almost wish there were no such measure of human intelligence as it can be so very destructive to a child with a low IQ. My close but distant friends always turn out to be in the 160 plus range, with a few in the 180 category. From their life experiences, a high IQ does not bring happiness or satisfaction along with it. And...I might add, they seem to be mainly artists and musicians, or writers and poets...I wonder why? (smiles)

ami

I started 1st grade with an 85 IQ. The problem with IQ tests is they fail to identify or measure what exists beyond the universe of the test. Marconi had no clue of what existed beyond the sliver of radio spectrum he worked with, certainly no idea the ionosphere existed. In the real world Nature makes the tests, and MENSA people usually flunk.
 
last i checked an iq of 90 still put you firmly in the average category, but what the hell? this is troll bait and i was just bored enough to post the obvious. i'm done now. you guys can get back to discussing the bell curve or whatever while i ignore you.
 
If women,blacks and hispaniccs in America respresent the result of living in freedom, I suggest, again perhaps, we might re think the long term value of individual liberty in society at large.

That "we" thing, amicus?

Individual liberty is Declared unalienable and, in that specific regard, all men are Created equal. Now, if you suppose to argue that all men does not actually entail all men as in the intended "humankind" it represents, and that you as a mere man have the power to overrule inherent right...

...then you are an enemy of individual liberty just as stout as any statist you condemn.


"The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty — and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies."

- H.L. Mencken
 
Amicus?

William J. Calvin already confirmed that life in Africa, with plentiful bananas and monkey meat, predisposes blacks to mediocrity. Their antecedents never had cause to use their noodles for the kaleidoscopic changes occidentals and orientals cope with.

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I read, in several places, all legitimate, that fifteen to twenty degrees north or south of the Equator is the dividing line in human cognitive ability.

The 'out of Africa' origin and diversion of species is so well documented one really cannot question the rocks they dug up and the cocnlusions they reached.

I posed the question about women, blacks nad hispanics, to express my thoughts
on these major events of the past century or so, but I find as usual,no one other t han JBJ is even willing to think, they all just react emotiionally or with studied indoctrination by the feminists and true believers.

Thus, one could conclude fromt the commentary in two separate threads, that there is no measurable difference in human cognitive abilities based on racial differences. that men and women are absolutely equal in all respects and should be trated as such.

If, indeed, you are so certain in your faith, forit sure as hell ain't knowledge,just belief,then why bother and why get so fucking emo that you throw mud and slurs?

I happen to KNOW,t hat there are many questions yet to be answseredf and understood, and t hat among them are gender and racial equality.

ami
 
That "we" thing, amicus?

Individual liberty is Declared unalienable and, in that specific regard, all men are Created equal. Now, if you suppose to argue that all men does not actually entail all men as in the intended "humankind" it represents, and that you as a mere man have the power to overrule inherent right...

...then you are an enemy of individual liberty just as stout as any statist you condemn.

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Thank you for the Menchen quote, I had forgotten that...

You have every right to be a theist, Ever, to believe in whatever faith you select. The fault in such beliefs is that you sacrifice your individual thinking to obey the Bible or the Koran or the Ten Commandments, or some other recipe for human behaviior that requires faith, not human thought.

In 1776, as I recall,Indians and Slaves were not consider edfully human, only about 3/5ths so..I would have included women,but in a separate category; that because of physical weekness and mental impairments, could never be considered fully human.

I only partially jest in the above as I hold women in high regard as females, not little men in pants.

You are playing with words when you attempt to tie my conceptuliztion of innate human rights, self evident by the existence of life, not life given orgranted by either a God ora Government.

You have such good ideas about human freedom and liberty, but you are immediately dismissed as a jesus freak because you cannot offer rational orobjective knowledge as a source, but must rely upn faith and belief.

You really don't belong in a discussion or a forum such as this, where your fundamental source of moral and ethical behavior is memorized, not a product of thought.

Although the mantra of the left is as much memorized as Christianity, without th em, and you, only JBJ andmyself would exchange thoughts.:)

ami
 
so amicunt posted a link to white supremacy paper which sites a study that doesnt show social demographics, ie education poverty..nor does it diclose the date wherin these studies were taken, as these tests used to be truly notorious for their skewed samplings


but fuck the scientific method.... a white supremist knows more then anyone else
 
last i checked an iq of 90 still put you firmly in the average category, but what the hell? this is troll bait and i was just bored enough to post the obvious. i'm done now. you guys can get back to discussing the bell curve or whatever while i ignore you.

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53,000 Posts, you must ignore a lot of people.

I didn't make the conclusions of the world of human psychology, I read them and I ponder.

If only by logic, I am convinced that there are quantitativeand qualitative difference in human intelligence; I am also convinced that there are methods to measure it.

When 105 is the measured averagefor caucasians and 90 for Negroids, there is no way in hell you can state,as you did,that 105=90...it do not.

Just like on average, in general, women are smaller than men...you should read the feminazi's proclaim it is an advantage to be smaller amd weaker,you big ole mean bully!

Amicus
 
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53,000 Posts, you must ignore a lot of people.

I didn't make the conclusions of the world of human psychology, I read them and I ponder.

If only by logic, I am convinced that there are quantitativeand qualitative difference in human intelligence; I am also convinced that there are methods to measure it.

When 105 is the measured averagefor caucasians and 90 for Negroids, there is no way in hell you can state,as you did,that 105=90...it do not.

Just like on average, in general, women are smaller than men...you should read the feminazi's proclaim it is an advantage to be smaller amd weaker,you big ole mean bully!

Amicus

You read a tract from a white power site


seriously, get a fucking education
 
Do you have a source on that average IQ?

There *is* one, but I can't recall what new-sy type show I saw it on (within the last month)...Hasidic Jews came out with the highest average IQ, 110-115, IIRC...with Asians coming in second, Caucasians third at 100.

*But*, the news report I saw was careful to point out that "average" in no way means there aren't many in the lower two groups who are vastly more intelligent than the average of the top two groups.
 
I started 1st grade with an 85 IQ. The problem with IQ tests is they fail to identify or measure what exists beyond the universe of the test. Marconi had no clue of what existed beyond the sliver of radio spectrum he worked with, certainly no idea the ionosphere existed. In the real world Nature makes the tests, and MENSA people usually flunk.

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Aww, damnit, James, you screwed the pooch!

Almost every scientific source has concluded that IQ,like eye color, is inherited, you have it at birth and it cannot ne modified more than a few percentage points.

I'd guess you still havethe 137 IQ you were born with...how close did I guess?

:cool:

ami
 
There *is* one, but I can't recall what new-sy type show I saw it on (within the last month)...Hasidic Jews came out with the highest average IQ, 110-115, IIRC...with Asians coming in second, Caucasians third at 100.

*But*, the news report I saw was careful to point out that "average" in no way means there aren't many in the lower two groups who are vastly more intelligent than the average of the top two groups.

That's the "Bell Curve" study from 1994. It was Ashkenazi Jews, though, not Hasidic, but the rest was correct.

I wonder where Situational Native Americans fell on that scale?
 
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