Question about rape stories

[Brandie69]

I set out to write a story for the "nonconsent" section here. My goal, as it generally is, was to get into the head of my character, the victim, and describe the act as vividly as I could. My problem is that I think I have succeeded.

The story, mind you, does not have blood or death and the acts performed on the victim are acts you can see in a lot of porn these days that wouldn't even be called particularly extreme BDSM, but of course, in the story, they are totally nonconsensual. And I am so totally conflicted about it now.

So here's my issue. I think the story is a well-enough written description of the events it describes, but the fact of the matter is, unlike any other story I've ever written here, it no longer holds any trace of eroticism for me. In fact, it almost hurts.

Is it a fair question to ask if a few people who delve into the "nonconsent/reluctance" genre would read it for me before I submit it, to tell me if they think it even belongs here?

 

[lovecraft68]

Just so you know lit has a rule that states that if at some pint the character does not either give consent or show they are enjoying it in some way it will be rejected.

many rape stories here either the victim at some point starts to like it or it turns out to be a role play or some kind of a game.

Now having said that, the site is full of rape stories, but many non con authors mention that the site is inconsistent in that some are rejected some are accepted. You could PM Jenninflorida and if she is still around lindseyrae they've mentioned that before in the threads.

So write as you will and see what happens, but supposedly out right rape is a no-no.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

I enjoy the category and frankly, I see a whole lot of Reluctance and very little Non Consent. I realize people are here to stroke but we all have our little kinks and I guess I like the harder stuff.

I'm also annoyed by writers that have their victims suddenly get turned on and start enjoying it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that gets into this stuff.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

Just so you know lit has a rule that states that if at some pint the character does not either give consent or show they are enjoying it in some way it will be rejected.

many rape stories here either the victim at some point starts to like it or it turns out to be a role play or some kind of a game.

Now having said that, the site is full of rape stories, but many non con authors mention that the site is inconsistent in that some are rejected some are accepted. You could PM Jenninflorida and if she is still around lindseyrae they've mentioned that before in the threads.

So write as you will and see what happens, but supposedly out right rape is a no-no.

I was not aware of this. Why even have a Non Consent section at all then?

 

[Brandie69]

Interesting, lovecraft

Just so you know lit has a rule that states that if at some pint the character does not either give consent or show they are enjoying it in some way it will be rejected.
...
Now having said that, the site is full of rape stories, but many non con authors mention that the site is inconsistent in that some are rejected some are accepted. ...

So write as you will and see what happens, but supposedly out right rape is a no-no.

Thanks for that reply. My character never consents but she does, at the end, begin to have an orgasm, as apparently real rape victims report, even without getting anywhere near Stockholm syndrome.

Your insights make me think that I need to re-work this one. I certainly don't like the "he brutally raped me, but then all of a sudden the bluebirds sang and I engulfed him willingly." I'm not feeling the realism there.

Thanks again.

B

 

[Brandie69]

Greetings, Master

I enjoy the category and frankly, I see a whole lot of Reluctance and very little Non Consent. I realize people are here to stroke but we all have our little kinks and I guess I like the harder stuff.

I'm also annoyed by writers that have their victims suddenly get turned on and start enjoying it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that gets into this stuff.

Yes, no sudden conversion for me. I wonder, since you seem to like things a bit rough, if it is fair game even to ask you to read mine?

B

 

[lovecraft68]

I was not aware of this. Why even have a Non Consent section at all then?

Because the heading is "fantasies of control"

Besides, like I said, it is not always enforced. Its more a "They reserve the right to reject or delete one if it is reported or really over the top"

Sexual torture is not allowed either. It would be nice if it were posted somewhere, but good luck finding it.

 

[Typo Fu Master]

Yes, no sudden conversion for me. I wonder, since you seem to like things a bit rough, if it is fair game even to ask you to read mine?

B

I'm willing to read it. Bear in mind that my opinion means nothing as far as whether it's acceptable by Lit's standards. I don't consider myself an expert by any means.

 

[Brandie69]

I'm willing to read it. Bear in mind that my opinion means nothing as far as whether it's acceptable by Lit's standards. I don't consider myself an expert by any means.

Ok, I guess I have to set my options to be able to send it to you. Let me work on that, and I'll forward it along. I understand what you're saying.

B

 

[Carreira]

I'm a fan of the rape stories too and I get pissed off when the victim is liking it, it totally destroys it. The rape fantasy is about it being a rape as you might think - not a consensual act and not something the vitim enjoys. The fantasy rape brings to the top the desires of men to have every woman they want, to exercise their alpha superiority and so on....

 

[Safe_Bet]

I'm a fan of the rape stories too and I get pissed off when the victim is liking it, it totally destroys it. The rape fantasy is about it being a rape as you might think - not a consensual act and not something the vitim enjoys. The fantasy rape brings to the top the desires of men to have every woman they want, to exercise their alpha superiority and so on....

^^ THIS ^^

Is why reluctant/nc/rape stories should be banned from this site. Nothing short of total dominance is going to please people like this.

Rape is not about sex it's about dominance and control. Because it is not about sex it inherently can not be erotic. If it is neither about sex nor erotic why have the shit on an erotic sex story site???

 

[Carreira]

^^ THIS ^^

Is why reluctant/nc/rape stories should be banned from this site. Nothing short of total dominance is going to please people like this.

Rape is not about sex it's about dominance and control. Because it is not about sex it inherently can not be erotic. If it is neither about sex nor erotic why have the shit on an erotic sex story site???

Thank you


Well I don't know about being allowed or not. This is not my turn on though I like it, so people that focus their sexual appetite on these kinds of things should know if its erotic for them or not. I think people that are into BDSM may relate to this from the domination point of view.

EDIT: But maybe, as I like the fantasy, it IS erotic, so even though I wanted to say exactly what you came to agree with me. Even though I despise rape and non consensual when it happens, the story, the fantasy, is attractive - so its Erotic

 

[PennLady]

Non-con is not my thing, either, although I've read some on here. Meh.

I read once, possibly an essay on Lit, that women's "rape fantasies" aren't really about rape, and the author used the term "ravishment fantasy" which is probably more accurate, at least in some instances. In a ravishment fantasy, a woman might envision being pursued and taken by the alpha-male type because he's taken with her beauty and has to have her. And of course since it's fantasy the woman has control over what's going on in the fantasy, and the guy wants her because of some aspect of herself -- she's irresistible on some level.

As Safe_Bet said, though, rape isn't about beauty or sex. It's about power and dominance and the guy does not care whether the woman enjoys it or anything else. It's not even about his enjoyment, it doesn't seem; it's about a primal assertion of power. What can be erotic about that? About doing something to someone against their will?

ETA: Not to say men can't be raped or sexually assaulted, because obviously they can be, and that's horrible, too.

 

[lance gt]

I wrote a Non/Con story series, based on jealousy and envy. The exGF and two guys who want the new GF, break in and rape the couple while doing it for the first time. The BF is given oral by a bi-sexual male against his will, he was tied up, and despite his hatred of what was being done, he came. It showed enjoyment, so it was accepted, same as the GF, who was tied up as well and came from FF touching and anal.

I couldn't finish the story after 3 chapters and never will. I wanted to try writing in as many genres as I could and this cured me of venturing in this genre again. In as much as I detest the act of rape in any way, I disagree that sex isn't involved. When you talk of fantasies, from a woman's view point in the act, you also have to look at the man's side of it. This is his fantasy, no matter what we may think of it in our moral terms and it is all about sex to him. There's two sides to every story, one has a light side, one has a dark, just the way it is in everything. I guess you could say, I seen the light and went to it.

 

[Brandie69]

I'm coming to lance's side on this

As I said, I wrote this one just to try as many genres as I could but having explored it, I'm very reluctant to share it. It isn't erotic, not to me, anyway.

I jiggled my settings and just sent it privately to Typo Fu Master. We'll see.

At least I think some parts of it can be re-worked into a consensual but reluctant piece where the main character legitimately gets off in the end

B

 

[Goldeniangel]

I'd be willing to read it... I write a lot of Non-Con/Reluctance. It's weird cuz I'm totally into the fantasy but I'm not even into role-playing it.. but I don't mind reading the rough stuff at all. It sounds like maybe you're worried that your story has crossed into the line of realism, rather than fantasy?

 

[Brandie69]

Yeah, well, that's exactly it I guess,

Goldeniangel. I think it has crossed the line, and while I like the writing about as well as anything else I've done, I guess what I learned is that the most realistic end of this particular genre is not at all erotic to me. That's why I've reached out here for some other opinions. I'll send it to you privately in a moment.

Please, I mean this, be straight with me.

B

 

[Brandie69]

If anyone's interested

I finally did post the thing, after making revisions based on this thread. It is called "My debut". Let me see if I can give you a link to it.

http://www.literotica.com/s/my-debut

Woohoo! The link appears to have worked.

/newbie

 

[sun_sea_sky]

Good story. Horrific, but good. I commented under the story.

I guess what I learned is that the most realistic end of this particular genre is not at all erotic to me.

Hopefully it wouldn't be, particularly if you are a woman.

 

[estragon]

I myself wrote a story in which a rape figured, and it was quite brutal, although the woman killed her assailant. The assailant was a serial rapist-murderer. The story did post, and did not get bombed or praised beyond what I would ordinarily encounter in any story.

I was unaware of an explicit rule, although I see Laurel sent a PM, posted somewhere in the AH BB, that says that absolute non-consents will not be published. Of course, as with every blockade, the rum-runners will try to get through if they can.

 

[Brandie69]

Well, I think that's all for me

in the nonconsent genre.

I feel about as glad that I did it as 50 sit-ups in gym class.

Maybe less so.

B