Britain’s Already Dead, It Just Hasn’t Been Buried Yet - I scooped busybody!

[4est_4est_Gump]

Don’t be fooled by the pomp and dazzle of the Queen’s royal Diamond Jubilee flotilla easing past the tourists, celebrity-spotters, and pickpockets on the Thames. Britain is a country rotting from the inside, the first nation on earth that elected to destroy its culture with political correctness.

Asks British columnist Rod Liddle, “Who are the people who have made Britain what it is today, the ones who ensured that we became a limp-wristed and decrepit, post-imperial satrapy of incompetence, sanctimony, self-obsession and self-loathing?”

Who indeed? (By limp-wristed, Liddle means lacking in conviction, not gay). The short answer is the new aristocracy, the bien pensant, well-shod, culturally aloof types who watch the BBC, read The Guardian, and vote to nudge the country ever farther along its current trajectory, which has not even slightly been altered by the return of a Conservative to the premiership. Against the wishes of the average citizen, Britain has a government that is simultaneously abdicating its core functions and pretending to take responsibility for other duties for which it is spectacularly ill-suited. It has abandoned a proud, concrete culture in pursuit of a hazy dream of a transnational ideal. The people’s response has been to fume lightly and do nothing, because they’re British and expect things to be bad and get worse.

A few days in London will quickly cure you of any notion that, for instance, New York is a chaotic city. It only barely rated notice in most of the media the other day when five of London’s 11 subway lines went down simultaneously at rush hour due to signal failures and train breakdowns. It was about 80 degrees at the time and most trains have no air conditioning. Subway unions are threatening a strike. And yet a glance at the national news sources, which are obsessed with the massacres in Syria, the Jubilee, the Olympics, and the never-ending Leveson Inquiry that vaguely promises a sinister new truth czar will be empowered to decide in advance which media stories can be published, turns up almost zero outrage at all of this.

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So the government can’t make the trains run on time or make people feel safe on the streets. (a friend who lived in New York for many years tells me of how, after moving to London, he witnessed a stabbing, called the police, and waited a number of minutes for them to arrive, by which time the perpetrators were long gone. The nearest police station was about 300 yards away, but the constabulary decided to send representatives from a farther one instead, lest they risk crossing paths with any violent criminals.)

Never let it be said the government is satisfied with this state of affairs; no, instead, it is advancing into brand new areas of incompetence. The prime minister has been boasting of his exciting plan to literally head a nanny state as he sets up, for new parents, an office to send texts, hold classes, and give “tiredness counseling.” (For a play-by-play of Britain’s collapse, consult the blogger-columnist Peter Hitchens, who, ever since writing The Abolition of Britain over a decade ago, invariably takes the most pessimistic imaginable view of things and yet is rarely wrong.)

On the business side of things, a government-commissioned venture capitalist’s report called for some obvious changes in labor regulations that would make it easier to fire workers (and consequently make businesses less leery of hiring in the first place). The left-wing, Liberal Democrat “business minister,” whose relationship with his field is much like that of an “infectious diseases specialist,” called the plan “completely bonkers” and suffered no repercussions from his boss whatsoever. The plan will gather dust. Another government minister, Conservative William Hague, actually gave an interview in which he told business to stop “complaining” and just hire. Currently, when a business wants to fire someone, it often has to justify the decision before a labor tribunal. A proposed reform would substitute a sort of pre-settlement in which the fired worker gets a cash payout instead of the right to endless litigation.

From offshore, Britain finds itself in the absurd version of a V-2 attack, with almost weekly regulatory strafing coming in from the European Union and the European Court of Human Rights. Britain, which voted simply to join a common market in 1973 but never voted to be ruled from the continent, is so used to such indignities as being told that it must not deport al-Qaeda terrorist Abu Qatada and must furnish prisoners with ballots, that even David Cameron’s Conservatives generally respond by being loudly huffy and doing nothing. Cameron’s latest solemn vow is that he will ignore the ECHR directive to give votes to prisoners. We’ll see. If he is going to deny the ECHR the sovereignty it plainly lacks, why doesn’t he go all the way?

Because he’s afraid of the BBC.

We joke about the “state media” in America, but in Britain by far the leading media outlet is the BBC, which operates independently but is effectively funded by a tax (a large one, more than you pay for HBO). Awash in public funding, it does exactly what you’d think it would do: attack competitors and promote a left-liberal worldview, for instance by portraying anyone opposed to the grand European project as eccentric and possibly demented. Now that Europe is imploding and Britons say, by a 51 to 28 margin, that they want to leave the EU, the political-media complex is scrambling to prevent the issue from ever coming to a vote (though if it does, the same complex will move mountains to ensure the vote is the correct, transnational one). George Osborne, the number two man in the Tory party, has actually suggested that the solution to Europe is more Europe — fiscal and policy integration, i.e., a superstate with its capital in Brussels and its biggest source of power in Berlin. Britain would finally relinquish all claim to authority over its own affairs and essentially cease to exist as a political entity. What Hitler and Napoleon couldn’t do, the dull Eurocrats and their silky-voiced, terribly respectable media cheerleaders are intent on doing. But then again, Britain is already dead, it just hasn’t been buried yet.

Kyle Smith
http://pjmedia.com/blog/britains-already-dead/?singlepage=true


Oikophobia

Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: "the disposition, in any conflict, to side with 'them' against 'us', and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably 'ours.' "

The oik repudiates national loyalties and defines his goals and ideals against the nation, promoting transnational institutions over national governments, accepting and endorsing laws that are imposed on us from on high by the EU or the UN, though without troubling to consider Terence's question, and defining his political vision in terms of universal values that have been purified of all reference to the particular attachments of a real historical community.
The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism. And it is the rise of the oik that has led to the growing crisis of legitimacy in the nation states of Europe. For we are seeing a massive expansion of the legislative burden on the people of Europe, and a relentless assault on the only loyalties that would enable them voluntarily to bear it. The explosive effect of this has already been felt in Holland and France. It will be felt soon everywhere, and the result may not be what the oiks expect.
Roger Scruton, British philosopher

 

[Sean]

Leaving aside the obvious rw hysteria of the piece, one of the few actual "facts" in it is this:

Britons say, by a 51 to 28 margin, that they want to leave the EU

I'd love to know where that figure came from.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Kyle Smith
http://pjmedia.com/blog/britains-already-dead/?singlepage=true


Oikophobia

Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: "the disposition, in any conflict, to side with 'them' against 'us', and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably 'ours.' "

The oik repudiates national loyalties and defines his goals and ideals against the nation, promoting transnational institutions over national governments, accepting and endorsing laws that are imposed on us from on high by the EU or the UN, though without troubling to consider Terence's question, and defining his political vision in terms of universal values that have been purified of all reference to the particular attachments of a real historical community.
The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism. And it is the rise of the oik that has led to the growing crisis of legitimacy in the nation states of Europe. For we are seeing a massive expansion of the legislative burden on the people of Europe, and a relentless assault on the only loyalties that would enable them voluntarily to bear it. The explosive effect of this has already been felt in Holland and France. It will be felt soon everywhere, and the result may not be what the oiks expect.
Roger Scruton, British philosopher

http://img.freebase.com/api/trans/image_thumb/en/soon-yi_previn?pad=1&maxheight=110&mode=fillcropmid&maxwidth=110Soon Yi says: Velly informative, AJ-San! Prease to exprain next what pathorogical fear of riberals is called?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Leaving aside the obvious rw hysteria of the piece, one of the few actual "facts" in it is this:


I'd love to know where that figure came from.

Two links. That's all it takes...

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2012/05/21/will-britain-vote-leave-eu/

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Britains ALFRED The Great will come again. He kicked the Danes in the ass with a mere 200 soldiers. When the Niggaz and Wogz and Gooks have taken over from the Pansies, a real Brit will rise.

 

[Sean]

Two links. That's all it takes...

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2012/05/21/will-britain-vote-leave-eu/

Interesting. And volatile, seems to depend on exactly how badly Greece and Germany have fallen out that week. Still, as Kelner points out, opinion polls on that particular question seem to be no indicator of how an actual referendum works out. Besides, aint no government going to hold a referendum on it, even the tories know it would be economic suicide to leave, no matter how much the UKIPesque wing of their own party bleat.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Interesting. And volatile, seems to depend on exactly how badly Greece and Germany have fallen out that week. Still, as Kelner points out, opinion polls on that particular question seem to be no indicator of how an actual referendum works out. Besides, aint no government going to hold a referendum on it, even the tories know it would be economic suicide to leave, no matter how much the UKIPesque wing of their own party bleat.

"Meep meep meep..."

"I live in Hawaii."

"Look who just got elected to our local council!"

Take a seat, junior.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Interesting. And volatile, seems to depend on exactly how badly Greece and Germany have fallen out that week. Still, as Kelner points out, opinion polls on that particular question seem to be no indicator of how an actual referendum works out. Besides, aint no government going to hold a referendum on it, even the tories know it would be economic suicide to leave, no matter how much the UKIPesque wing of their own party bleat.

I appreciate your reasonableness, but this really was more or less a parody thread.

I actually think the entire Continent has become a vacuum waiting for the next big idea to conquer it...

 

[Byron In Exile]

Britains ALFRED The Great will come again. He kicked the Danes in the ass with a mere 200 soldiers. When the Niggaz and Wogz and Gooks have taken over from the Pansies, a real Brit will rise.

You have absolutely no idea how you brighten my day sometimes.

Clearly, Churchill made the wrong call and ought to have taken a side.

"Great" Britain will be paying for that mistake forever.

As will we all.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Britains ALFRED The Great will come again. He kicked the Danes in the ass with a mere 200 soldiers. When the Niggaz and Wogz and Gooks have taken over from the Pansies, a real Brit will rise.

My buddy, a Jewish professor of DWEMs says the one saving grace is the viciousness of the white race once its back is actually up against the wall redneck mother...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You have absolutely no idea how you brighten my day sometimes.

Clearly, Churchill made the wrong call and ought to have taken a side.

"Great" Britain will be paying for that mistake forever.

As will we all.

He let FDR beat him to Yalta...

Now, Yalta comes to the Continent

Allahu Akbar!
Idbah al-Yahud!

 

[Byron In Exile]

I appreciate your reasonableness

Bwahahahaha! Fucking... You appreciate what?

"Thank you sir, may I have another?"

...

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me..."

So, to extrapolate, if the saying were to continue, "... fool me a dozen times and I must be the biggest sucker on the planet."

Hello?

Is there anybody out there?

 

[Byron In Exile]

The fact is that SeanH doesn't know shit from squat and everyone here pretty much knows that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Bwahahahaha! Fucking... You appreciate what?

"Thank you sir, may I have another?"

...

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me..."

So, to extrapolate, if the saying were to continue, "... fool me a dozen times and I must be the biggest sucker on the planet."

Hello?

Is there anybody out there?

In the world where zip, U_D, Sean, crackerjack and Dick think that ThrobDownSouth is reasonable...

 

[zipman]

In the world where zip, U_D, Sean, crackerjack and Dick think that ThrobDownSouth is reasonable...

LOL, I don't think he is any more or less "reasonable" than you are.

Then again you pride yourself on being an extremist, don't you?

 

[RobDownSouth]

How DARE people agree with RobDownSouth!?

In the world where zip, U_D, Sean, crackerjack and Dick think that ThrobDownSouth is reasonable...

Yeah AJ, you're a victim. A VICTIM, DAMMIT!

 

[Byron In Exile]

In the world where zip, U_D, Sean, crackerjack and Dick think that ThrobDownSouth is reasonable...

To quote Ronald Reagan, "There you go again..."

You're putting all these people together as if they have the same views, when, in fact, they are actually a great cross-section of the board.

So SeanH and Throb are motivated by personal animosity... they're idiots, anyway. They never say anything worth conversation.

 

[Byron In Exile]

LOL, I don't think he is any more or less "reasonable" than you are.

Then again you pride yourself on being an extremist, don't you?

All I have to offer you is donuts and taco sauce.

If you are who you pretend to be, then that ought to be enough.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

To quote Ronald Reagan, "There you go again..."

You're putting all these people together as if they have the same views, when, in fact, they are actually a great cross-section of the board.

So SeanH and Throb are motivated by personal animosity... they're idiots, anyway. They never say anything worth conversation.

Not views, tactics in "discussion" and the proclivity to flock together in the enemy of my enemy mode.

zip never got over being added to the "Ship of Tools" crew.

But he kept swabbing the decks...

 

[off2bed]

"Against the wishes of the average citizen, Britain has a government that is simultaneously abdicating its core functions and pretending to take responsibility for other duties for which it is spectacularly ill-suited."

That applies to America, too. Did the Founding Fathers ever envision a country where a woman would bitch to Congress that she can't afford enough birth control pills to support her promiscuous lifestyle? Or that such a woman wouldn't be laughed off of Capitol Hill?

 

[deskuser]

Since I was a small kid in the 70's everybody was saying we were finished and we're still here. Probably be a right wing backlash against the left wing establishment soon with a bit of luck which will change things for the better.

Meanwhile everything in that land of milk and honey known as the USA is fucking hunky dory isn't it? No problems over there oh no! Instead of worrying about us and quoting little anecdotes as evidence maybe they should worry about getting their own house in order because its a mess.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You're now the Falklands of the Continent...

 

[deskuser]

I wish we were. All that oil and just a few people. The US is just the third world with money.

 

[shoulderblade]

Meanwhile everything in that land of milk and honey known as the USA is fucking hunky dory isn't it? No problems over there oh no! Instead of worrying about us and quoting little anecdotes as evidence maybe they should worry about getting their own house in order because its a mess.

I think it would be a good idea if pretty well everyone could manage to mind their own business.

Every country has its its own history and agenda anyway so comments or criticisms have little impact and serve mainly to simply antagonize others. Other countries are generally remote, complicated and confusing so you would be better off to hold back on the analysis.

 

[zipman]

Not views, tactics in "discussion" and the proclivity to flock together in the enemy of my enemy mode.

zip never got over being added to the "Ship of Tools" crew.

But he kept swabbing the decks...

LOL, and by tactics I understand you mean not willing to accept the nonsense you post without challenging it.

But don't worry, you still have Koala, BB, Miles, JBJ and plenty of others who will read it and agree with it despite not making any sense.

A_J's Corrolary # 6 - It's only an Ad Hominem Statement when someone else does it.