What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[4est_4est_Gump]

You really need it spelled out for you?

Several reasons.

The simple answer?
Higher education is a service industry requiring highly skilled and highly educated labor. Highly skilled and educated people do not come cheaply.

Colleges are continually upgrading with new technological advances in order to educate and train their students in it's use. There are huge capital expenditures involved with not only buying the latest technolgy, but in hiring or training staff in it's use on order to educate others.

The simplest answer?
Colleges are for-profit institutions. They, like any other business, will charge as much as the market will bear. As long as people are willing to pay exhorbitant amounts to get an education at their facility the price will continue to rise.

1). Yes, they do when they compete in a market. We do not have a market; we have an pseudo-governmental institution now.

2). One wonders what technology is required for women's and gender studies.



3). Your conclusion is flawed because they can charge more than the market will bear knowing that government will step in and provide more of the taxpayer largess to the student, long after that largess is nothing more than a huge pile of debt.

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

1). Yes, they do when they compete in a market. We do not have a market; we have an pseudo-governmental institution now.

2). One wonders what technology is required for women's and gender studies.



3). Your conclusion is flawed because they can charge more than the market will bear knowing that government will step in and provide more of the taxpayer largess to the student, long after that largess is nothing more than a huge pile of debt.

I'm sure that all of the colleges would be surprised to hear that they are pseudo-governmental institutions.. What a pant load.

Not all classes are affected dumbass, false flag on your part. Try teaching advanced mechanical drafting using an easel, a protractor, and pencil vs computer aided drafting courses on a state of the art computer system running the latest software (You know, like the student would use in an actual job today vs, 1970) and see how well you fair.

Not flawed at all. They can charge exactly as much as the student is willing to pay or go into debt for. Capitalism.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm sure that all of the colleges would be surprised to hear that they are pseudo-governmental institutions.. What a pant load.

Not all classes are affected dumbass, false flag on your part. Try teaching advanced mechanical drafting using an easel, a protractor, and pencil vs computer aided drafting courses on a state of the art computer system running the latest software (You know, like the student would use in an actual job today vs, 1970) and see how well you fair.

Not flawed at all. They can charge exactly as much as the student is willing to pay or go into debt for. Capitalism.

Then perhaps a one-size fits all to class costs is the problem.

But the student knows that the debt will eventually be forgiven and the grants allow him the illusion of something for nothing and encourage worthless and inflated degree programs.

We do not have much of a Capitalism in BIG Education.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

UD is a bit stunted when it comes to economics.

He sees the broken window and praises the rock thrower for providing the Glazier work...

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

The multitude of state university systems wouldn't however.

They all depend on government largess to eliminate a sense of competition.

 

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[RobDownSouth]

2). One wonders what technology is required for women's and gender studies.

Compare the miniscule number of "women's and gender studies" graduates each year to the number of engineers and computer science graduates.

Then reassess your casual dismissal of technology costs and come back with your usual ad hominem/red herring/straw man herpa-derp.

 

[RobDownSouth]

1). Yes, they do when they compete in a market. We do not have a market; we have an pseudo-governmental institution now.

Glibertarian delusion at its best.

 

[pierrelarue161]

Women's studies people scare me, but we men get our revenge when they ask us if we want fries with that.

 

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[4est_4est_Gump]

Of the 1,601,000 bachelor’s degrees conferred in 2008–09, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of business (348,000); social sciences and history (169,000); health sciences (120,000); and education (102,000). At the master’s degree level, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of education (179,000) and business (168,000). At the doctor’s degree level, the greatest number of degrees were conferred in the fields of health professions and related clinical sciences (12,100); education (9,000); engineering (7,900); biological and biomedical sciences (7,000); psychology (5,500); and physical sciences (5,000).

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=37

Very few of these are "technology dependent."

 

[Disgustipated]

May consumer sentiment highest in more than four years

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Consumer sentiment rose to its highest level in more than four years in May as Americans stayed optimistic about the job market, while higher income households expected to see bigger wage increases, a survey released on Friday showed.

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan's final reading on the overall index on consumer sentiment rose to 79.3 from 76.4 in April, topping forecasts for 77.8 and an initial May reading of the same.

It was the highest level since October 2007.

"Unfortunately, consumer confidence is still extremely vulnerable to a reversal, as occurred in the past two years," survey director Richard Curtin said in a statement.

"While their most optimistic expectation for job growth could go unfulfilled without much harm, if the recent slowdown in job growth persists in the months ahead, it could form the basis for a third retreat in confidence."

Half of all consumers said the economy had improved during the past year, while buying plans for vehicles and household durables also improved. The gauge of buying plans rose to 132 from 126.

Higher income households anticipated a 2 percent income increase in the year ahead, while lower income households expected just a 0.3 percent gain.

The survey's barometer of current economic conditions jumped to 87.2 from 82.9, while its gauge of consumer expectations improved to 74.3 from 72.3.

The indexes were at their highest levels since January 2008, and July 2007, respectively.

The survey's one-year inflation expectation eased to 3.0 percent from 3.2 percent, while the survey's five-to-10-year inflation outlook dipped to 2.7 percent from 2.9 percent.

(Reporting By Leah Schnurr; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama)

 

[NeverEndingMe]

I'm sure that all of the colleges would be surprised to hear that they are pseudo-governmental institutions.. What a pant load.

Not all classes are affected dumbass, false flag on your part. Try teaching advanced mechanical drafting using an easel, a protractor, and pencil vs computer aided drafting courses on a state of the art computer system running the latest software (You know, like the student would use in an actual job today vs, 1970) and see how well you fair.

Not flawed at all. They can charge exactly as much as the student is willing to pay or go into debt for. Capitalism.

and we should forgive that student debt, right?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

fine, cut out any funding to all higher education. cut out student loans and lets see the true price of college when NO ONE can afford to attend.

guess what, I bet the price of a degree drops by 60%

sadly, people like you have their head burred so deep up each others asses, yet you keep looking to blame it on Bush. well honey, with your head up another ass, you will see no BUSH

You really need it spelled out for you?

Several reasons.

The simple answer?
Higher education is a service industry requiring highly skilled and highly educated labor. Highly skilled and educated people do not come cheaply.

Colleges are continually upgrading with new technological advances in order to educate and train their students in it's use. There are huge capital expenditures involved with not only buying the latest technolgy, but in hiring or training staff in it's use on order to educate others.

The simplest answer?
Colleges are for-profit institutions. They, like any other business, will charge as much as the market will bear. As long as people are willing to pay exhorbitant amounts to get an education at their facility the price will continue to rise.

 

[Sean Renaud]

fine, cut out any funding to all higher education. cut out student loans and lets see the true price of college when NO ONE can afford to attend.

guess what, I bet the price of a degree drops by 60%

sadly, people like you have their head burred so deep up each others asses, yet you keep looking to blame it on Bush. well honey, with your head up another ass, you will see no BUSH

In theory wouldn't that be a good thing?

 

[Ham Murabi]

For the last three years, Americans have been force-fed a set of narratives that exonerate the current administration: The recession and deficit are all Bush's fault, the stimulus package needs time to work, greedy businesses are sitting on their billions rather than hiring new workers, and so on. As a final measure to absolve Barack Obama of responsibility for his policies, any poor economic news is considered "unexpected."

Yet almost any thinking American can see that we're really not better off than we were four years ago, and too much time has passed since Bush left office and the various economic stimuli were approved. In fact, during the Obama "recovery," the U.S. has experienced the 30 worst months of employment in the past 25 years. Also, for the first time in history, a majority of the unemployed have attended college.

None of this stopped the Associated Press in its latest blame-the-Republicans story -- Is GOP Trying to Sabotage Economy to Hurt Obama?. Telling the truth about the economy is apparently now "sabotage." Of course, all but conservative media are in the tank for Obama's re-election, so this tone isn't surprising. Even still, it won't be Obama asking voters the "better off" question because he won't like the answer.

 

[RobDownSouth]

For the last three years, Americans have been force-fed a set of narratives that exonerate the current administration: The recession and deficit are all Bush's fault, the stimulus package needs time to work, greedy businesses are sitting on their billions rather than hiring new workers, and so on. As a final measure to absolve Barack Obama of responsibility for his policies, any poor economic news is considered "unexpected."

Yet almost any thinking American can see that we're really not better off than we were four years ago, and too much time has passed since Bush left office and the various economic stimuli were approved. In fact, during the Obama "recovery," the U.S. has experienced the 30 worst months of employment in the past 25 years. Also, for the first time in history, a majority of the unemployed have attended college.

None of this stopped the Associated Press in its latest blame-the-Republicans story -- Is GOP Trying to Sabotage Economy to Hurt Obama?. Telling the truth about the economy is apparently now "sabotage." Of course, all but conservative media are in the tank for Obama's re-election, so this tone isn't surprising. Even still, it won't be Obama asking voters the "better off" question because he won't like the answer.

And on Planet Murabi, the Republicans haven't adopted a policy of "party first, country second"...and they certainly haven't adopted the Vetteman/AJ/Miles creed of "better America fail than the Negro president succeed"...

 

[TexasWife25]

Of the 1,601,000 bachelor’s degrees conferred in 2008–09, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of business (348,000); social sciences and history (169,000); health sciences (120,000); and education (102,000). At the master’s degree level, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of education (179,000) and business (168,000). At the doctor’s degree level, the greatest number of degrees were conferred in the fields of health professions and related clinical sciences (12,100); education (9,000); engineering (7,900); biological and biomedical sciences (7,000); psychology (5,500); and physical sciences (5,000).

I don't see one degree there that you can obtain without technology.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Of the 1,601,000 bachelor’s degrees conferred in 2008–09, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of business (348,000); social sciences and history (169,000); health sciences (120,000); and education (102,000). At the master’s degree level, the greatest numbers of degrees were conferred in the fields of education (179,000) and business (168,000). At the doctor’s degree level, the greatest number of degrees were conferred in the fields of health professions and related clinical sciences (12,100); education (9,000); engineering (7,900); biological and biomedical sciences (7,000); psychology (5,500); and physical sciences (5,000).

I don't see one degree there that you can obtain without technology.

Psychology. Education. Business.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Tuition wont kill academia, worthless diplomas are doing it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

May consumer sentiment highest in more than four years

Yeah!

The Summer of Recovery!!!


(Of course it might be due to falling gas prices, falling because speculators lost confidence in the economy...)

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Tuition wont kill academia, worthless diplomas are doing it.

Have you ever read the forward (basically Chapter 1) to Hesse's Glass Bead Game?



Even then, he had his finger on what is killing academia and its reputation (as echoed by the Glow Ball Cooling hysteria).
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[4est_4est_Gump]

Psychology. Education. Business.

Once they decide something is true, there is no dissuasion...

There is no such thing as a degree that doesn't require extensive technology at the BA level...