Private Equity companies.

Ishmael

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The Obama campaign is trying to make hay over Romneys involvement with the private equity company Bain & Company. More than a few are going to buy into the premise that these companies are evil incarnate. Perhaps some few might be interested in what these companies actually do.

Private equity companies essentially target various companies for management takeover. They act in many different ways. They might fund a leveraged buyout by key employees of the company, or actually assume majority stock holder status via the acquisition of publicly traded stock. They target companies that are undervalued or suffering under the leadership of poor management. Their goal is to return the company to profitability in order to sell their ownership position at a profit for themselves and the partners that they entered into contracts with in order to gain control to begin with.

These companies do NOT use all of their own capital to make these purchases. They assemble a host of investors into a pool of capital that is used specifically for the targeted acquisition. The unwashed masses tend to believe that these investors are made up of the super-rich, the Bill Gates, etc. Not true, the biggest players in these investment pools are retirement funds (California Public Employee Retirement Fund being a major player), union retirement funds, etc. In other words entities with huge reserves of cash and a fiduciary responsibility to maximize returns for their contributing members. These 'pool' investors are sheltered from the public eye by the private equity firm, meaning that while entities like Bain are the public face of the actions taken the folks profiting behind the scenes get to remain invisible.

When these companies take over a business the first people out the door is the current management team, a small detail that always seems to be overlooked by the demagogues. And the reason is quite simple, those are the folks that ran the company into the ground to begin with.

Operations are going to be streamlined, plants may be closed, redundant and/or unnecessary employees laid off, certain assets liquidated. All part of the process of returning the company to profitability and increasing return on equity.

Most of the companies targeted by private equity firms, left to their own devise, would merely dwindle away with everyone losing their job. They'd just disappear into the world of bankruptcy. And in some cases that's what happens anyway regardless of the intentions of the private equity management plan. But on liquidation everyone loses, the return is pennies on the dollar in that instance.

Private equity firms perform a valuable service overall regardless of the hardships that might be visited on certain individuals.

Ishmael
 
The Democrats sure know how to exploit people's ignorance for their own gain. Whether it's anti-capitalist propaganda, unions whacking a pinata shaped like a woman minority Republican's head (no war on women, there), or surrogates wanting to switch from ballots to bullets. You Dems must be very proud of your party.
 
It's nothing like moving in with your girlfriend in order to combine expenses and save money, then using her credit card to buy new tires and rims and then moving out.

Nothing like that at all.
 
It's nothing like moving in with your girlfriend in order to combine expenses and save money, then using her credit card to buy new tires and rims and then moving out.

Nothing like that at all.

If you have a palimony agreement, it is. Otherwise, not even close.
 
The Obama campaign is trying to make hay over Romneys involvement with the private equity company Bain & Company. More than a few are going to buy into the premise that these companies are evil incarnate. Perhaps some few might be interested in what these companies actually do.

Private equity companies essentially target various companies for management takeover. They act in many different ways. They might fund a leveraged buyout by key employees of the company, or actually assume majority stock holder status via the acquisition of publicly traded stock. They target companies that are undervalued or suffering under the leadership of poor management. Their goal is to return the company to profitability in order to sell their ownership position at a profit for themselves and the partners that they entered into contracts with in order to gain control to begin with.

These companies do NOT use all of their own capital to make these purchases. They assemble a host of investors into a pool of capital that is used specifically for the targeted acquisition. The unwashed masses tend to believe that these investors are made up of the super-rich, the Bill Gates, etc. Not true, the biggest players in these investment pools are retirement funds (California Public Employee Retirement Fund being a major player), union retirement funds, etc. In other words entities with huge reserves of cash and a fiduciary responsibility to maximize returns for their contributing members. These 'pool' investors are sheltered from the public eye by the private equity firm, meaning that while entities like Bain are the public face of the actions taken the folks profiting behind the scenes get to remain invisible.

When these companies take over a business the first people out the door is the current management team, a small detail that always seems to be overlooked by the demagogues. And the reason is quite simple, those are the folks that ran the company into the ground to begin with.

Operations are going to be streamlined, plants may be closed, redundant and/or unnecessary employees laid off, certain assets liquidated. All part of the process of returning the company to profitability and increasing return on equity.

Most of the companies targeted by private equity firms, left to their own devise, would merely dwindle away with everyone losing their job. They'd just disappear into the world of bankruptcy. And in some cases that's what happens anyway regardless of the intentions of the private equity management plan. But on liquidation everyone loses, the return is pennies on the dollar in that instance.

Private equity firms perform a valuable service overall regardless of the hardships that might be visited on certain individuals.

Ishmael

Complete bullshit. A lot of times companies are broken apart because one unit or area may not have "as high of a profitability rate" as other parts. In fact, the reason for breaking them up and selling them may have absolutely nothing to do with having run them into the ground.

And in many cases, it's short sighted at best taking quick profits at the expense of long term stability.
 
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I see no RL evidence that Ishmael is correct.

If Ishmaels model worked we'd see improvement in American industries. What I see is a Stalinesque freebie grab where the affected industry is tagged, bagged, crated for sale, or shipment to China.
 
Is the Obama camp actually saying that all private equity firms are douchebags, or that Bain is/was a douchebaggy private equity firm?
 
Curious about something: why didn't we see this thread when it was Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry making the anti-Bain case? Hmmmm?
 
Are the dems not allowed to criticize opponents on previous work records, because the constant whining about Obama's seem to contradict that.
 
Curious about something: why didn't we see this thread when it was Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry making the anti-Bain case? Hmmmm?

The dems should just run news clips of what those guys said.
 
They should, it worked out so good for them. :)


It might not have worked in the context of a Republican primary, but Romney will need votes from more than just Republicans.

If the Obama team could beat a war hero/media hero, surely they can run against a Wall Street financier in the wake of an economic collapse caused by that ilk.
 
It might not have worked in the context of a Republican primary, but Romney will need votes from more than just Republicans.

If the Obama team could beat a war hero/media hero, surely they can run against a Wall Street financier in the wake of an economic collapse caused by that ilk.

Why do you hate 401K's.
 
It might not have worked in the context of a Republican primary, but Romney will need votes from more than just Republicans.

If the Obama team could beat a war hero/media hero, surely they can run against a Wall Street financier in the wake of an economic collapse caused by that ilk.

the why did HO!BO! just pick up MILLIONS from the TOP GUY at BAIN???????????????

DUMBASS NIGGER...........You, thats YOU
 
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