Article on transgender child

You know what I love? All of the ignorant outrage-- doesn't matter to these parents or their kid.

holler all you want boys, sweat and swear. The kid is going to grow up loved and honored, regardless.
 
You know what I love? All of the ignorant outrage-- doesn't matter to these parents or their kid.

holler all you want boys, sweat and swear. The kid is going to grow up loved and honored, regardless.

Only among the carnival freaks....Cher, of course.
 
It shouldn't matter what sex the child believes they are. They should be loved and accepted.
 
You know what I love? All of the ignorant outrage-- doesn't matter to these parents or their kid.

holler all you want boys, sweat and swear. The kid is going to grow up loved and honored, regardless.

Which is what really matters in the end. I'd be a damn hypocrite about transformation if I didn't embrace both kinds. :cool:
 
I'm all for transgender people coming out and being proud, accepted, etc.

But, have any of you ever met a five year old before? When I was five I wanted to be a dinosaur.
 
I'm all for transgender people coming out and being proud, accepted, etc.

But, have any of you ever met a five year old before? When I was five I wanted to be a dinosaur.

Your new Barney suit is in the mail!
 
I'm all for transgender people coming out and being proud, accepted, etc.

But, have any of you ever met a five year old before? When I was five I wanted to be a dinosaur.

What kind of dinosaur? :)

The article states that the child's gender issues started when he was two, and I think an important thing to note is that he never wavered -- for years. I have two kids and trust me, they don't have that kind of attention for most things. I think the parents are doing the right thing and as best they can. If the child grows out of this "phase," then no harm done. If not, then they've laid some groundwork not just in their family but in the community, which I would think would work to everyone's advantage. Or I hope so, anyway.
 
No doubt PINHEAD-LADY would encourage the parents to allow the child to torture animals and bite other children, CUZ SHE'S DONE IT FOR SO LONG!
 
I'm all for transgender people coming out and being proud, accepted, etc.
That's very nice of you. :) Being transgender isn't a matter of "coming out" and"being proud" though. it's a matter of finding a remedy for a very distressing condition of one's life.

But, have any of you ever met a five year old before? When I was five I wanted to be a dinosaur.
But you KNEW you were a boy.

So does this boy.
 
That's very nice of you. :) Being transgender isn't a matter of "coming out" and"being proud" though. it's a matter of finding a remedy for a very distressing condition of one's life.

But you KNEW you were a boy.

So does this boy.

Exactly.
 
That's very nice of you. :) Being transgender isn't a matter of "coming out" and"being proud" though. it's a matter of finding a remedy for a very distressing condition of one's life.

But you KNEW you were a boy.

So does this boy.

But he aint a boy. You people are fools for magical thinking.
 
Our choice is always tween THE MOB (democracy) or THE KING (fascism). Republican representation is the worst of both.
 
So far, the only things that have changed are clothes, room decorations and pronouns, things that are easily changed should the child grow out of it. If not, well they will have harder decisions to make, but they can deal with that later.

I think this is the nub of it. I think it's fine to go with the flow on how the child perceives identity, but it's going to get a lot more difficult as socialization expands and the years mount. The parents seem to be equiped to work with this. But, it's not as much a story now as it will be three years from now and, even more, ten years from now. By the latter time, there probably will have to be some physical balancing to "whatever" for the child to be able to function--and for those around the child to function as well. A timed series of articles would be helpful for all facing this sort of issue. (And I think it's probably a lot less of an issue for a physical girl emotionally reponding as a boy than the other way around.)
 
I remember my grandfather trying to straighten me out when I was 4. He found me in sitting in his tool box playing in his tools in nothing but underwear because I had taken off the dress my grandmother had put me in. He said "You're a boy!" and I argued with him about it.

I knew I was a girl then I just didn't like dresses and dolls. I think he was trying to point out to me that I shouldn't act that way if I was a girl. I'm not transgendered just butch but I argued and fought with family all my life because I did not act the way they thought I should.

I wish my family had been more understanding, that young man is very lucky to have the support of his parents.
 
I remember my grandfather trying to straighten me out when I was 4. He found me in sitting in his tool box playing in his tools in nothing but underwear because I had taken off the dress my grandmother had put me in. He said "You're a boy!" and I argued with him about it.

I knew I was a girl then I just didn't like dresses and dolls. I think he was trying to point out to me that I shouldn't act that way if I was a girl. I'm not transgendered just butch but I argued and fought with family all my life because I did not act the way they thought I should.

I wish my family had been more understanding, that young man is very lucky to have the support of his parents.

She isnt male. Magical thinking!
 
I'll have to agree with JBJ to a point here. The kid is only 5. The kid is a girl at this point. If she wants to become a boy, that's fine with me--and apparently with the kid's parents. But 5 is too early to "be" anything different from one's anatomical makeup (this isn't the most complex case--some kids are actually indeterminate anatomically at this point)--or to obsess on that point. It doesn't really matter if everyone wants to let the kid exhibit as the sex the kid wants at this point. But this is entirely too early for either the kid or the parents (or anyone else) to make a definitive statement on it. Get some common sense.

Seems some here want to politicize the issue and exploit the child. They are acting no better than those insisting there can be no emotion-based decisions in what someone is. Stop using the kid.
 
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For those interested, here is a online chat with Petula Dvorak, who wrote the column, and the child's mother.

http://live.washingtonpost.com/transgender-120518.html?hpid=z4

I have a cousin, who when she was about the age of the child in the article, insisted she was a boy. I don't remember this myself, but my mom does, and she thought it was more an issue of approval. My aunt and uncle were apparently disappointed that their first born was not a boy, and I guess they didn't hide it. My cousin, to my knowledge, did not insist on changes to the extent that Tyler did in this article.

Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that kids may do as my cousin did, or they may seriously feel, as much as they are able, that they are *not* the gender they were born. At this age, I don't particularly see the harm in going along with it -- as the mother says in the chat, for her child and others, when these steps were taken, behavior problems disappeared and so did other things. If this changes, it changes, but if not, at least they are in on the ground floor.

I find myself hoping that there will be follow-up articles on this down the line, no matter how it turns out.
 
Mothers have huge issues with the sex of their children, in 1000s of ways they get the idea across to the kid that the kid fuckedup. What I see is mothers who believe their kids are property to be rearranged as required.
 
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