Florida Kids Can't Read

[unregistered]

 

[Bert Notorius]

I got out of Florida before my kids started school.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I got out of Florida before my kids started school.

Child support coming due?

 

[Bert Notorius]

Child support coming due?

twit.

 

[bronzeage]

The problem with Florida education has obviously been around for a very long time.

 

[Adre]

There must be a way to blame Obama for this

 

[CHNOPS]

I got out of Florida before my kids started school.

And brought them to Illinois!

It's funny because it's true.

 

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[mercury14]

Spidy, call your office:


Half of Florida high school students fail reading test
Reuters – 17 hours ago

MIAMI (Reuters) - Nearly half of Florida high school students failed the reading portion of the state's new toughened standardized test, education officials said on Friday.
Results this year from the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test showed 52 percent of freshman students and 50 percent of sophomores scored at their grade levels.
Students in the 10th grade must pass the exam in order to eventually graduate but can retake it if they fail.
The results came days after the Florida State Board of Education voted to lower the standards needed to pass the writing part of the test, known as FCAT. The test is administered in public elementary, middle and high schools.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/half-florida-high-school-students-fail-reading-test-232516894.html

Those are the results after Florida raised their standards. Shouldn't we be worried about the states who have similar outcomes with lower standards?

 

[mercury14]

In all fairness to Spidy and other Florida denizens, in my state California, 70% of the kids just failed the national science test. The nation pays a heavy price in order to follow liberal educators who say it's better to pass a kid than to stigmatize him with failure...they fail in the end anyway.

How do you know it's just liberal educators that say that and not the conservative ones?

 

[Bert Notorius]

And brought them to Illinois!

It's funny because it's true.

twit.

 

[CHNOPS]

It's funny. Googling this, I found the Reuters story picked up by several other outlets, and then a bunch of right-wing blogs (including stormfront), and that's it. Why is this a RW cause-celebre? Is it part of the "teachers are overpaid" narrative? If so, are they hoping that by paying teachers less, students will learn to read better?

At any rate: it looks like the state had good intentions, but flat-out bungled the raising and changing of the testing standards. They didn't give teachers rubrics or guidelines, they simply unilaterally changed the grading procedures for the writing, reading and math tests. The good news is they seem to be tired of being the nation's urethra.

They're letting the schools and teachers slide this year. They will hold them to the new standards next year and going forward. Teachers whose students don't meet those standards can be fired.

This should make the RW happy, correct? I know R's hate unemployment, but not as much as they hate teachers. So win-win!

 

[TexasWife25]

It's funny. Googling this, I found the Reuters story picked up by several other outlets, and then a bunch of right-wing blogs (including stormfront), and that's it. Why is this a RW cause-celebre? Is it part of the "teachers are overpaid" narrative? If so, are they hoping that by paying teachers less, students will learn to read better?

At any rate: it looks like the state had good intentions, but flat-out bungled the raising and changing of the testing standards. They didn't give teachers rubrics or guidelines, they simply unilaterally changed the grading procedures for the writing, reading and math tests. The good news is they seem to be tired of being the nation's urethra.

They're letting the schools and teachers slide this year. They will hold them to the new standards next year and going forward. Teachers whose students don't meet those standards can be fired.

This should make the RW happy, correct? I know R's hate unemployment, but not as much as they hate teachers. So win-win!

Im always baffled why the right seems to disparage teachers so much. my sister in law is a public school teacher at an inner city school, I know I could never take on the problems she faces every day.

 

[mercury14]

Im always baffled why the right seems to disparage teachers so much. my sister in law is a public school teacher at an inner city school, I know I could never take on the problems she faces every day.

It's because they disparage education itself. Just look around this place. We recently had a lengthy thread where conservatives said the problem is that too many people are getting a college education. The problem according to them was that more folks need to just graduate high school or get a GED and stop gettin' all uppity and wanting to keep learning.

"The more you know, the less you believe". That's why so many of these people want Biblical creationism taught in science class. Education threatens them.

It's a new thing, but the conservative movement sees teachers as just another union that needs to be destroyed. And moreover, they see teachers as liberals who are going to brainwash their kids into becoming liberals. Or brainwash them into literally becoming gay or at least believing that gay people are not abhorrent. Just look at the conservative legislation in places like Tennessee where teachers are not allowed to acknowledge the existence of anything else than strict heterosexuality, even if it's relevant to the content of the class.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It's funny. Googling this, I found the Reuters story picked up by several other outlets, and then a bunch of right-wing blogs (including stormfront), and that's it. Why is this a RW cause-celebre? Is it part of the "teachers are overpaid" narrative? If so, are they hoping that by paying teachers less, students will learn to read better?

At any rate: it looks like the state had good intentions, but flat-out bungled the raising and changing of the testing standards. They didn't give teachers rubrics or guidelines, they simply unilaterally changed the grading procedures for the writing, reading and math tests. The good news is they seem to be tired of being the nation's urethra.

They're letting the schools and teachers slide this year. They will hold them to the new standards next year and going forward. Teachers whose students don't meet those standards can be fired.

This should make the RW happy, correct? I know R's hate unemployment, but not as much as they hate teachers. So win-win!

Naaah. This is a huge problem for the GOP cuz the governor appoints all the members of the state board of education, and the board is responsible for changing the passing scores, etc. Plus most school boards are run by GOP pols, and all of them are in bed with the union and Niggaz.

 

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[Saint Peter]

Blame the teachers. Blame the union. Easy targets for simple minds.

The problem here is parents. If they would stop letting the video games raise their children test scores would go up. Way up.

Read to them. Do math with them. Ask them what the are doing in school. Support teachers instead of battling with them.

 

[mercury14]

Blame the teachers. Blame the union. Easy targets for simple minds.

The problem here is parents. If they would stop letting the video games raise their children test scores would go up. Way up.

Read to them. Do math with them. Ask them what the are doing in school. Support teachers instead of battling with them.

Back up a bit.

They have to be present first. Then what you said.

 

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[hobbit.]

Blame the teachers. Blame the union. Easy targets for simple minds.

The problem here is parents. If they would stop letting the video games raise their children test scores would go up. Way up.

Read to them. Do math with them. Ask them what the are doing in school. Support teachers instead of battling with them.

I agree, upto a point. Parents are a childs earliest teachers and role models. Teachers in schools tend to be little more than thinly disguised, over paid instruments of the state, with a prime concern to propagate the system and secure their own salary.

I meet many, personally I'd shoot most of 'em.

 

[mercury14]

Most are run by Democrats and unions in my state.

But that's a recent thing. You just finished eight years under a Republican governor who put all his own people on your state board of education. Call Arnold a RINO all you want but he didn't let the teacher's union run things.

 

[mercury14]

I agree, upto a point. Parents are a childs earliest teachers and role models. Teachers in schools tend to be little more than thinly disguised, over paid instruments of the state, with a prime concern to propagate the system and secure their own salary.

I meet many, personally I'd shoot most of 'em.

You mean you heard this generalization somewhere and decided it was true despite having no evidence at all to back it up?

 

[phrodeau]

After all the trouble Republicans have gone through to get the school textbooks rewritten to reflect their ideologies, now they're shocked that the kids aren't reading them.

 

[hobbit.]

You mean you heard this generalization somewhere and decided it was true despite having no evidence at all to back it up?

Based on reality sadly.

I spend a lot of my working day visiting schools. The school support staff in the main keep the places running, the teachers tend to be a waste of resource, i.e school budget.

 

[Saint Peter]

I agree, upto a point. Parents are a childs earliest teachers and role models. Teachers in schools tend to be little more than thinly disguised, over paid instruments of the state, with a prime concern to propagate the system and secure their own salary.

I meet many, personally I'd shoot most of 'em.

Teachers have always come in a variety of flavors. Being a successful student means you have to learn from the good as well as the bad.

Send you kid to school unprepared and even the best teacher on the planet is not going to teach them.