Fifty Shades of Grey

[THROBBS]

Isn't it fun sometimes to read something that's really, really bad, though (as long as you can check it out of the library)?

Sometimes, yes...though this may beyond even my low standards!

And I was thinking even less effort than the library.

 

[RjThoughts]

Isn't it fun sometimes to read something that's really, really bad, though (as long as you can check it out of the library)?

I read the first chapter of Twilight at Barnes and Noble and almost gagged. 50 is a fanfic, it HAS to be worse. I won't even pick up the book. UGH

 

[sr71plt]

Sometimes, yes...though this may beyond even my low standards!

And I was thinking even less effort than the library.

It would help too, if the author would keep such books short. (But they never do, do they?) I've found that novellas sell very well, and now, thanks to e-books, they are possible to do profitably.

 

[THROBBS]

I read the first chapter of Twilight at Barnes and Noble and almost gagged. 50 is a fanfic, it HAS to be worse. I won't even pick up the book. UGH

Good point! But, I actually enjoyed the Twilight books... as "throw aways". (mindless fun)

I said that I have low standards!

 

[THROBBS]

It would help too, if the author would keep such books short. (But they never do, do they?) I've found that novellas sell very well, and now, thanks to e-books, they are possible to do profitably.

ah...now there's a good point. One is less disappointed if there is not the "Now there's 24 hours I'll never get back!" feeling. And I presume they are somewhat less expensive?

 

[sr71plt]

ah...now there's a good point. One is less disappointed if there is not the "Now there's 24 hours I'll never get back!" feeling. And I presume they are somewhat less expensive?

Yes, 25,000-30,000 worders (which is a long short story traditionally, but a novella in the e-book world) sell well priced at $2.99 (with half going back to the author even when there's a publisher. Two-thirds or more if self-published). I can knock one out in four days--and, even with a publisher to go through, have it up for sale within two weeks.

I was looking on a reviewers site yesterday and saw a book having gotten 0 stars (the review says it's virtually unreadable grammatically). I went to Amazon an saw that it's selling briskly. I had the urge to order it myself to see what all of the fun was about.

 

[RjThoughts]

Yes, 25,000-30,000 worders (which is a long short story traditionally, but a novella in the e-book world) sell well priced at $2.99 (with half going back to the author even when there's a publisher. Two-thirds or more if self-published). I can knock one out in four days--and, even with a publisher to go through, have it up for sale within two weeks.

I was looking on a reviewers site yesterday and saw a book having gotten 0 stars (the review says it's virtually unreadable grammatically). I went to Amazon an saw that it's selling briskly. I had the urge to order it myself to see what all of the fun was about.

Two bucks a pop for a novella, shit, that means if I write some trashy "mommy erotica" story I could buy a new laptop in no time, as long as I say it started out as a Twilight fanfic.

 

[sr71plt]

Two bucks a pop for a novella, shit, that means if I write some trashy "mommy erotica" story I could buy a new laptop in no time, as long as I say it started out as a Twilight fanfic.

Well, yes you could. But don't talk it up too much. Those who pooh pooh it are leaving the field less crowded for the rest of us.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think as more time goes by and more people who bought it over the hype find themselves disappointed it could hurt the "mommy porn" audience as fast as it built it up.

I think the marketers know this and are going to rush the shit out of the movie to strike while the iron is still somewhat hot.

The movie will be like the book nigh unbearable for most people, but will still make a killing.

Maybe at the end as it gets exposed for being a fraud-at least as far as any real BDSM fans go- it could open the door for people to get curious about the "real deal" and that could help authors like the type who write here.

As I said, Gray couldn't dom a doorknob and it makes my eyes roll to think there are women who think this is a "bad boy"

 

[PennLady]

Isn't it fun sometimes to read something that's really, really bad, though (as long as you can check it out of the library)?

That's kind of the way I look at the free stuff I get from Amazon for my Kindle. It's not all that great, but if it was free, I can't complain. Much.

 

[lovecraft68]

Two bucks a pop for a novella, shit, that means if I write some trashy "mommy erotica" story I could buy a new laptop in no time, as long as I say it started out as a Twilight fanfic.

Here's the problem, anything coming out now like Shades will be seen as a rip off. Ironic considering Shades itself is just that.

But short e-book do well and are fairly easy. My last one was up within a week, I started writing on a Tuesday and next Tuesday found a cover and uploaded it. At that point with only a $4 investment it's hard not to make a few bucks.

 

[lovecraft68]

Isn't it fun sometimes to read something that's really, really bad, though (as long as you can check it out of the library)?

That's the same mentality that has kept real bad B-type horror and sci fi movies in the mix.

They gain cult status for being godawful and you just shut off the brain and have a good laugh.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

As I said, Gray couldn't dom a doorknob and it makes my eyes roll to think there are women who think this is a "bad boy"

Well think about it...

First off, I don't want a bad boy, and even if I do, I want a 'safe' bad boy.

Because the average 'bad boy' is bad because he has no future, he's violent, he's unemployable, he's a douche, etc.

Mr. Grey is (probably) a wealthy socially acceptable bad boy. Therefore, he is wrapped in a pretty little bow for everyone who doesn't want a real bad boy.

There, did my best not to generalize, but I'm sure there are more women who feel this way. In fact, I actually think that the 'bad boy' is a pretty repellant thing. The average representation of the bad boy stereotype at my college are the guys that smoke despite knowing how bad it was for them (aren't we proud of the D.A.R.E. generation?) Spend too much money on expensive clothes and hair products to project their image, and waste their time drinking and doing drugs and everything possible to piss their parents' money down a drain while they have fun.

That doesn't sound like a good partner to me. I don't know, maybe the 'adult' bad boys have some common sense.

I doubt it.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well think about it...

First off, I don't want a bad boy, and even if I do, I want a 'safe' bad boy.

Because the average 'bad boy' is bad because he has no future, he's violent, he's unemployable, he's a douche, etc.

Mr. Grey is (probably) a wealthy socially acceptable bad boy. Therefore, he is wrapped in a pretty little bow for everyone who doesn't want a real bad boy.

There, did my best not to generalize, but I'm sure there are more women who feel this way. In fact, I actually think that the 'bad boy' is a pretty repellant thing. The average representation of the bad boy stereotype at my college are the guys that smoke despite knowing how bad it was for them (aren't we proud of the D.A.R.E. generation?) Spend too much money on expensive clothes and hair products to project their image, and waste their time drinking and doing drugs and everything possible to piss their parents' money down a drain while they have fun.

That doesn't sound like a good partner to me. I don't know, maybe the 'adult' bad boys have some common sense.

I doubt it.

Wow even the "trouble makers" are pansies these days.

Real bad boys are bad ass. They have a swagger, they have a temper, they take what they want they do what they want. They have animal magnetism and charisma.

They are every father's nightmare every house wives fantasy.

They're trouble and you know it, but can't stay away. They take the good and turn them bad, they corrupt, they defile.

This fraud wouldn't even try to get this slut to say "pussy"

Hey EL whatever your name is, here's a clue "research"

 

[PennLady]

Wow even the "trouble makers" are pansies these days.

Real bad boys are bad ass. They have a swagger, they have a temper, they take what they want they do what they want. They have animal magnetism and charisma.

They are every father's nightmare every house wives fantasy.

Not this wife's fantasy, thank you very much.

They're trouble and you know it, but can't stay away. They take the good and turn them bad, they corrupt, they defile.

In real life, probably. In fiction and perhaps especially romantic fiction, they are really good guys at heart and are just waiting for the right person/people or circumstances to show those true colors.

This fraud wouldn't even try to get this slut to say "pussy"

Hey EL whatever your name is, here's a clue "research"

Good lord, man, what part of "fiction" are you not getting here? If you don't like it then write the story you wish she had.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Aww, LC.

She wrote what she wanted to write.

Get over it.

 

[RjThoughts]

Aww, LC.

She wrote what she wanted to write.

Get over it.

Ditto!

And some mommies like it, whether or not the BDSM is true to form. Fiction is an escapism: She wrote it and many are escaping into that world.

 

[THROBBS]

I'm goona write "Fifty Shades of Black and Blue"

Cuz that's what those pussies really crave!





That reminds me... I think I saw this in a National Lampoon magazine>
an ad for an asshole enlarger, "because all the girls go for the biggest assholes"

 

[TxRad]

I'm goona write "Fifty Shades of Black and Blue"

Cuz that's what those pussies really crave!

Blue Pussy is very cold pussy.

 

[THROBBS]

Blue Pussy is very cold pussy.

Then those bitches better warm it up for me, or I'll warm it for myself!

 

[TxRad]

Then those bitches better warm it up for me, or I'll warm it for myself!

Sorry, but somehow a Dom jumping up and down on his balls just doesn't work too well.

 

[THROBBS]

Sorry, but somehow a Dom jumping up and down on his balls just doesn't work too well.

damn!



foiled again.


Well, I'll still write the novelletta (kinda wimpy sounding for a MACHO BAD BOY BD/SM booklette)

 

[lovecraft68]

Not this wife's fantasy, thank you very much.



In real life, probably. In fiction and perhaps especially romantic fiction, they are really good guys at heart and are just waiting for the right person/people or circumstances to show those true colors.



Good lord, man, what part of "fiction" are you not getting here? If you don't like it then write the story you wish she had.

I did actually, I'll send you a copy when it's up, free of charge.

And sadly PL, you by your own admission are fairly vanilla, so this would be your demographic.

 

[lovecraft68]

Sorry, but somehow a Dom jumping up and down on his balls just doesn't work too well.

Nope that would be Femdom

 

[THROBBS]

Nope that would be Femdom

no no...I think you misunderstand.

Nothing "fem" about it.