Humpty Dumpty

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So why is he an egg- there's nothing in the poem about him being an egg...

I was playing the new Alice game and it got me to thinking- why is he not just a dead guy? I mean, there's nothing in the poem that would lead you to think that he was anything other then a guy who fell off a wall. So why is he always an egg?
 
So why is he an egg- there's nothing in the poem about him being an egg...

I was playing the new Alice game and it got me to thinking- why is he not just a dead guy? I mean, there's nothing in the poem that would lead you to think that he was anything other then a guy who fell off a wall. So why is he always an egg?

The poem is gender neutral. Why are you assigning the egg a gender?
 
It's not about an egg it's about a cannon.

In England during the the Tutor wars I think (Somthing like that) The two families were fighting it out.
There was a castle/fort and on it there was a very large cannon and it was called Humpty Dumpty (I have no idea way).
During a battle the attacking side was able to take it out and some one wrote about it.
How it became an egg is the question.
 
I tried so hard to like Alice 2. It is a beautiful game, but it was so boring.
 
I thought this was going to be more insults from Shorn courtesy of one of his - I'm told - many alts. :)
 
So why is he an egg- there's nothing in the poem about him being an egg...

I was playing the new Alice game and it got me to thinking- why is he not just a dead guy? I mean, there's nothing in the poem that would lead you to think that he was anything other then a guy who fell off a wall. So why is he always an egg?

You come up with thoughts like these because you are a Kindergarten school teacher.

Everybody knows that.

Why don't you?
 
I tried so hard to like Alice 2. It is a beautiful game, but it was so boring.

The controls are kinda a pain in the ass on PC to.


It's not about an egg it's about a cannon.

In England during the the Tutor wars I think (Somthing like that) The two families were fighting it out.
There was a castle/fort and on it there was a very large cannon and it was called Humpty Dumpty (I have no idea way).
During a battle the attacking side was able to take it out and some one wrote about it.
How it became an egg is the question.

A cannon? That makes as much sense as the egg, I guess.
 
It's not about an egg it's about a cannon.

In England during the the Tutor wars I think (Somthing like that) The two families were fighting it out.
There was a castle/fort and on it there was a very large cannon and it was called Humpty Dumpty (I have no idea way).
During a battle the attacking side was able to take it out and some one wrote about it.
How it became an egg is the question.

oh my fucking god! :eek:
 
It was originalyl a riddle and originally went:

Humpty Dumpty sate on a wall,
Humpti Dumpti had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more,
Cannot place Humpty dumpty as he was before
 
According to the Oxford English Dictionary the term "humpty dumpty" referred to a drink of brandy boiled with ale in the seventeenth century.[1] The riddle probably exploited, for misdirection, the fact that "humpty dumpty" was also eighteenth-century reduplicative slang for a short and clumsy person.[4] The riddle may depend on the assumption that, whereas a clumsy person falling off a wall might not be irreparably damaged, an egg would be.[1] The rhyme is no longer posed as a riddle, since the answer is now so well known.[1] Similar riddles have been recorded by folklorists in other languages, such as "Boule Boule" in French, or "Lille Trille" in Swedish and Norwegian; though none is as widely known as Humpty Dumpty is in English.[1]


Humpty Dumpty, shown as a riddle with answer, in a 1902 Mother Goose story book by William Wallace DenslowThere are also various theories of an original "Humpty Dumpty". One, advanced by Katherine Elwes Thomas in 1930[5] and adopted by Robert Ripley,[1] posits that Humpty Dumpty is King Richard III of England, depicted in Tudor histories, and particularly in Shakespeare's play, as humpbacked and who was defeated, despite his armies at Bosworth Field in 1485. However, the term humpback was not recorded until the eighteenth century, and no direct evidence linking the rhyme with the historical figure has been advanced.[6]

The suggestion that Humpty Dumpty was a "tortoise" siege engine, an armoured frame, used unsuccessfully to approach the walls of the Parliamentary held city of Gloucester in 1643 during the Siege of Gloucester in the English Civil War, was put forward in 1956 by Professor David Daube in The Oxford Magazine of February 16, 1956, on the basis of a contemporary account of the attack, but without evidence that the rhyme was connected.[7] The theory, part of an anonymous series of articles on the origin of nursery rhymes, was widely acclaimed in academia,[8] but was derided by others as "ingenuity for ingenuity's sake" and declared to be a spoof.[9][10] The link was nevertheless popularised by a children's musical first performed in 1969.[11]

From 1996 the website of the Colchester tourist board attributed the origin of the rhyme to a cannon recorded as used from the church of St Mary-at-the-Wall by the Royalist defenders in the siege of 1648.[12] In 1648 the town of Colchester was a walled town with a castle and several churches and was protected by the city wall. A large cannon, which the website claimed was colloquially called Humpty Dumpty, was strategically placed on the wall. A shot from a Parliamentary cannon succeeded in damaging the wall beneath Humpty Dumpty which caused the cannon to tumble to the ground. The Royalists, or Cavaliers, 'all the King's men' attempted to raise Humpty Dumpty on to another part of the wall, but because the cannon was so heavy ' All the King's horses and all the King's men couldn't put Humpty together again.' In his 2008 book Pop Goes the Weasel: The Secret Meanings of Nursery Rhymes author Albert Jack claimed that there were two other verses supporting this claim.[13] Elsewhere he claimed to have found them in an "old dusty library, [in] an even older book",[14] but did not state what the book was or where it was found. It has been pointed out that the two additional verses are not in the style of the seventeenth century, or the existing rhyme, and that they do not fit with the earliest printed version of the rhyme, which do not mention horses and men.[12]
 
Then there are like, a million answers to that riddle. Any piece of food, for example. You can't put a cake back together either. That's a stupid riddle.

I do like that there were no horses involved originally though. It never really seemed a job for horses.
 
It was originalyl a riddle and originally went:

Humpty Dumpty sate on a wall,
Humpti Dumpti had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more,
Cannot place Humpty dumpty as he was before

At which point did the giant egg flip flop its constant name changing?
 
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