NFL's Junior Seau dead at 43

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Looks like suicide. Hopefully they'll take a close look at his brain during the autopsy.

Terrible news.
 
It's interesting, given the growing number of ex-NFLs who've shot themselves.

Junior got a lot of hits to the head; no doubt about it.

Remember he drove a car off the cliff in 2010 and no skid marks were found. He said he fell asleep at the wheel. Maybe that was the first suicide attempt.
 
Remember he drove a car off the cliff in 2010 and no skid marks were found. He said he fell asleep at the wheel. Maybe that was the first suicide attempt.


Yeah, that incident always did seem ominous.

He's best known for what he did in the NFL, but I'll always remember Seau for singlehandedly laying waste to Ohio State in 1989.
 
The trend - and yes, it's actually a trend - is that ex-NFLers are shooting themselves in the chest to allow their brains to be examined during autopsy.

Report from TMZ is that Seau shot himself in the chest.
 
Is two considered a trend? Dave Duerson and now Seau. So sad all the way around. Are there more that I missed?

And being the 8th member of that Chargers team to die...that seems odd.
 
John Grimsley as well.

Ah! Yes I missed him. I don't understand, if these men suspected that they had CTE, which is the reasoning behind shooting themselves in the chest, was there no other option? They knew they were sick and yet chose this?
 
Ah! Yes I missed him. I don't understand, if these men suspected that they had CTE, which is the reasoning behind shooting themselves in the chest, was there no other option? They knew they were sick and yet chose this?

I doubt they were thinking straight. :(

So Sad.
 
Ah! Yes I missed him. I don't understand, if these men suspected that they had CTE, which is the reasoning behind shooting themselves in the chest, was there no other option?

Well, the chest presumably so that the brain could be examined. Suicide? Too large a question...

His mom just spoke. Awful to watch.
 
1994 Chargers Super Bowl team has a sad story.

Today’s sad news that Junior Seau has died at the age of 43 is another tragic story about the star-crossed San Diego Chargers of 1994, a Super Bowl team that has now seen eight of its players die before reaching the age of 45.

Six months ago we noted that linebacker Lew Bush had died of an apparent heart attack, only six days after his 42nd birthday, making him, at the time, the seventh member of that team to die. Defensive lineman Shawn Lee died last year of a heart attack at 44. Defensive lineman Chris Mims died in 2008 of complications from having an enlarged heart at age 38. Offensive lineman Curtis Whitley died in 2008 of a drug overdose at age 39. Linebacker Doug Miller died in 1998 after he was struck by lightning, at age 28. Running back Rodney Culver died in 1996 in the crash of ValuJet Flight 592, at age 26. Linebacker David Griggs died in 1995 in a car accident at age 28.
 
Well, the chest presumably so that the brain could be examined. Suicide? Too large a question...

His mom just spoke. Awful to watch.

So very sad all the way around.
 
I think that Waters guy that played with the Cowboys also died from suicide. Or am i thinking of a different player?
 
I don't see what's complicted here. Repeatedly running your head into things and quite often being on some kind of drug to either cope with pain or recover from injury isn't great in the long run. That's why boxing was limited to twelve rounds instead of letting the guys bash each other until one couldn't take it, that's why football players die young and why proffesional wrestlers do the same (and occasionally slaughter their wives and children at the same time.) Ironically as UFC proves, fake fighting is actully more dangerous than real fighting. Turns out getting tossed off a 20 ft cage is more damaging than being choked.

If you care, stop watching football. Stop paying money to watch guys crash into each other as hard as they fucking can. Otherwise just ignore this and accept that this is part of the price of admission.
 
If you care, stop watching football. Stop paying money to watch guys crash into each other as hard as they fucking can. Otherwise just ignore this and accept that this is part of the price of admission.

Not gonna happen.

Instead, for better or worse, the professional game is going to change considerably - it already is. If it's revealed that Seau had significant brain injury, watch what's already tremendous momentum for change to build threefold.
 
That seems like a very shortsighted argument, if an activity is deemed unsafe it can, hopefully, be made safer. Choosing not to watch a professional version of the sport doesn't help anything.
 
Not gonna happen.

Instead, for better or worse, the professional game is going to change considerably - it already is. If it's revealed that Seau had significant brain injury, watch what's already tremendous momentum for change to build threefold.

Yeah. . .I'll believe it when I see it. I suspect it'll be like pro-wrestling. Sure one company (granted it's the big one) stopped letting people take chair shots to the head but peopleare still jumping off fifteen foot tall ladders and getting dropped on their heads. Nobody wants to watch flag football.

I'll be the first to admit I don't actually care. This isn't the arena where we have all the captured members of Al Qaeda battling for their lives. This is a high paying sport that people aspire to. If I was gonna bitch it would be about the fact that the college players not only don't get paid, they can't even endorse shit. I'm all for doing the studies which will ultimately prove that yes crashing into another human being head first over and over again damages the brain. We're not fucking billy goats and this goes without saying.
 
That seems like a very shortsighted argument, if an activity is deemed unsafe it can, hopefully, be made safer. Choosing not to watch a professional version of the sport doesn't help anything.

Dries up the revenue and thus ends the sport outright. Somethings are inherently dangerous and there isn't much you can do about it.
 
Yeah. . .I'll believe it when I see it.

Kick-offs have been changed to the 35 yard line. NFL experts are saying some are discussing getting rid of them altogether - seriously.

Momentum for an 18-game season is dead due to injury worries.

QB head hit penalties and fines have thrown the ref's job into chaos.

A bounty system just cost a head coach and one player an entire season, and another coach his career (likely).

1500+ lawsuits vs. the NFL re: concussions are in progress.

Believe it.
 
Kick-offs have been changed to the 35 yard line. NFL experts are saying some are discussing getting rid of them altogether - seriously.

Momentum for an 18-game season is dead due to injury worries.

QB head hit penalties and fines have thrown the ref's job into chaos.

A bounty system just cost a head coach and one player an entire season, and another coach his career (likely).

1500+ lawsuits vs. the NFL re: concussions are in progress.

Believe it.


Yeah, the game that Seau and Andre Waters played no longer exists--thanks in large part to the fates of people like Waters, whose brain was in terrifying shape when he killed himself. We'll see in 20 or so years whether it's had any effect.

It's obvious concussions are being taken much more seriously now than they used to be. The automatic benching of a player who has had a concussion seems like common sense, but it's only become policy within the last few years.
 
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