What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[NeverEndingMe]

*bump* for hilarity. This post should be seen by the masses with Jenny on iggy.

is Jenny the same as Jen?

 

[fair_warning]

some times one has to shock the system, to get others to think.

You're a fucking idiot. Take your own advice and THINK before you start typing or talking.

busybody you are not.

You aren't shocking the system but you are doing a great job of making those you oppose appear sane and reasoned...At least to the level you claim to have lowered yourself to.

Which I doubt is true.

Yes, and yet I bet anything he just doesnt get it.

 

[richard_daily]

I was thinking of the American Dream Down Payment Act of 2003. That's where Republicans made it possible for people with paltry incomes and tenuous attachments to the job market to get into houses on 100% credit - no money down. Then when there was an economic downturn these people flooded the economy with foreclosures.

Republicans like to forget their own "ownership society" idea.

Do you actually think any of the wingnuts on here will own the Republican's part in the housing collapse?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Do you actually think any of the wingnuts on here will own the Republican's part in the housing collapse?

Nah, it had to be the CRA.. The fact that it had been around since the late 70's means nothing. It was a devious 40 year plan to cause the housing market to collapse.

Muahahaha! Haha! Ha! *cough*

To think, these morons actually buy that pantload.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We are a devious buncy UD. We had a president so American the Republicans had to call in a deal from the Grim Reaper after three terms to get things under control, the CRA ruined the world and Democrats taking over after 2006 and the crash happening at the same time are causalitity and not coincidence. Little does the right know we surrendered to the Greys.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I voted for the lunatic Bob Barr.

I used to be a Democrat.



I am not protecting the Republicans, but yet I am also not running around saying prove the Democrats had one single thing to do with it (because they didn't). And even after it all blew up, the Democrats wanted to rush in with mirror legislation to keep the people in the homes that could not afford them in the first place similar to fucking the GM bondholders to save the Unions that had priced themselves out of the labor market sending a fell chill throughout the business community, and he's STILL attacking business!

I thinking owning up has to be a two way street and I see no signs of that happening until the house divided falls in on itself.

So far all we have heard from the Democrats is the economy's comeback is just around the bend, but then they pitch the coal out of the tender and hope the sun heats the water into steam. From the Republicans we hear of an impending train wreck and some solutions which the Democrats then just demagogue to death as Casey Jones, high on coalcaine, because they believe they are actually on the right track with Krugman as the engineer and Keynes as the stoker. Meanwhile, over in the Austrian corner, ol' A_J has been saying, the Train has stalled Charlie stole the handle and the train it won't go, no there's no way to speed up.

A_J might have it right from over in the neutral corner.

A_J's corollary #9, “When a Republican does it, it is a high crime and misdemeanor, when a Democrat does it, then it is, *shrug*, they ALL do it...”

A_J's corollary #9a, “When a Republican does it, an explanation is making an excuse, when a Democrat does it, then an excuse is the rightful explanation.”

SHOW US WHERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOCIALISM IS WORKING A_J!!!

EVERYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY ECONOMIC MODEL THAT WORKS!

CAPITALISM DESTROYS THE MIDDLE CLASS!

The want of confidence in the public councils damps every useful undertaking, the success and profit of which may depend on a continuance of existing arrangements. What prudent merchant will hazard his fortunes in any new branch of commerce when he knows not but that his plans may be rendered unlawful before they can be executed? What farmer or manufacturer will lay himself out for the encouragement given to any particular cultivation or establishment, when he can have no assurance that his preparatory labors and advances will not render him a victim to an inconstant government?
An individual who is observed to be inconstant to his plans, or perhaps to carry on his affairs without any plan at all, is marked at once, by all prudent people, as a speedy victim to his own unsteadiness and folly. His more friendly neighbors may pity him, but all will decline to connect their fortunes with his; and not a few will seize the opportunity of making their fortunes out of his. One nation is to another what one individual is to another...
Madison, Federalist 62.

It is popular today to blame capitalism for everything that displeases. Indeed, who is still aware of what he would have to forego if there were no "capitalism?" When great dreams do not come true, capitalism is charged immediately. This may be a proper procedure for party politics, but in Scientific discussion, it should be avoided.
Ludwig von Mises
A Critique of Interventionalism (1929)

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Nah, it had to be the CRA.. The fact that it had been around since the late 70's means nothing. It was a devious 40 year plan to cause the housing market to collapse.

Muahahaha! Haha! Ha! *cough*

To think, these morons actually buy that pantload.

Actually it's further proof of what I (and Alinsky) have been saying all along. There is no such thing as a little charity when it comes to government and no positive interference (von Humboldt) exists without unintended consequences. So what if it took 40 years for it blow up?

Political Realists see the world as it is: ... In this world laws are written for the lofty aim of "the common good" and then acted out in life on the basis of common greed...; a world where we are always moral and our enemies always immoral; a world where "reconciliation" means that when one side gets the power and the other side gets reconciled to it, then we have reconciliation.... In the world as it is, the solution of each problem inevitably creates a new one.
Saul David Alinsky
Rules for Radicals

There is black and white, and if you refuse to believe that, then you will accept grey and let me tell you gray tends to black for when you say ∃ of anything is a good function of government then ∃ is everything ¬∀ and while you may be able to advocate for ∃ you won't be allowed to define it and in this manner its limit will be ∀ for ∑f(∪∃)i [i=from you to the total population] will never tend to ∅ by definition so it is easy to see that it is, indeed, an ∀ or ∅ when it comes to government. (Now, the ∑f(∩∃)i [i=from you to the total population] will tend to ∅ but that is politically unattainable for the obvious reason that the more ∃ is defined, the smaller the ∩∃ becomes.)
A_J, the Stupid

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

As Acorn and Congress pushed for more housing (both parties) methods had to be created to deal with all the bad paper while Wall Street (you know, the people who do the ratings and are supposed to warn us) looked the other way as unindicted conspirators (what the government charges them with when THEIR plans go belly up) or unwitting victims (what the companies claim as they prove they are too big to fail) while they pushed the bad debt, confident that vague promises by the government would keep their house together, like it had real bricks...

Vinny Gambini: Let me show you something.
[he holds up a playing card, with the face toward Billy]
Vinny Gambini: He's going to show you the bricks. He'll show you they got straight sides. He'll show you how they got the right shape. He'll show them to you in a very special way, so that they appear to have everything a brick should have. But there's one thing he's not gonna show you.
[turns the card, so that its edge is toward Billy]
Vinny Gambini: When you look at the bricks from the right angle, they're as thin as this playing card. His whole case is an illusion, a magic trick. It has to be an illusion…,

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Here we go again, liberals using conservative words with new meanings...

We're going to try and SPEND France to prosperity:

"Things are moving and they will move even more after the French elections," he said. "A few weeks ago, Merkel didn't even want to hear the word growth, she was only talking about austerity...There will be a renegotiation. There will be a growth pact."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/28/us-france-election-idUSBRE83I0EZ20120428

They'll need a lot of new "investment" on the part of the rich...

Seems that no liberal plan ever fails logically and economically, they just have a bit of a semantics and "marketing*" problem...




* ironic use of the word.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

LOOK!


lol


The evil "rich" don't want to play along!

In an interview published earlier on Saturday, Hollande said labor leaders were warning that companies in France were preparing a round of job cuts after the end of the presidential campaign, during which Sarkozy has done everything in his power to avoid high profile industrial closures.

There will be laws!

*Atlas Shrug*

 

[fair_warning]

Here we go again, liberals using conservative words with new meanings...

We're going to try and SPEND France to prosperity:


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/28/us-france-election-idUSBRE83I0EZ20120428

They'll need a lot of new "investment" on the part of the rich...

Seems that no liberal plan ever fails logically and economically, they just have a bit of a semantics and "marketing*" problem...


* ironic use of the word.

Your first sentence is a little ambiguous. Do conservatives have exclusive use rights to certain words?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Your first sentence is a little ambiguous. Do conservatives have exclusive use rights to certain words?

I'm sorry. The left has a proclivity to take words that the middle class uses and to use them in detailing their plans to establish a comforting mood with the middle class towards them, thus taxes become 'investments,' government spending, borrowing and debt becomes a growth plan and Socialist becomes Liberal or Progressive (forcing Liberals, by definition, to begin calling themselves Libertarians because liberal now has a new meaning).

The plan never changes, only the verbiage.

So, conservatives use words as they are defined, like marriage while the liberal takes the word and uses it it mean almost the same thing, but with just a little tweak, it doesn't have to mean between a man and a woman, just two loving people (but never three! oh no, we can't have that!). This is how LIberals hope to get conservative votes, by sounding just like them, while meaning something totally different.

When I say I'm making an investment, you can take it to the bank. When a Liberal says he's making an investment, he has to take it from someone else, usually a conservative...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Will Europe become empire or return to nation states?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/the_death_of_nation-states_and_the_rise_of_empire.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/eurabia_versus_wilders_agonistes.html

 

[richard_daily]

So what if it took 40 years for it blow up?

Really?

You make Carter sound extremely devious... He pulled one over on Ronnie good.

If it was really a powder keg, waiting to go off, how come 3 republican presidents, and the republican congress didn't do anything about it?

Doe s that mean that they have no idea how government works?

 

[mercury14]

I used to be a Democrat.

Nobody believes you.

 

[mercury14]

I'm sorry. The left has a proclivity to take words that the middle class uses and to use them in detailing their plans to establish a comforting mood with the middle class towards them, thus taxes become 'investments,' government spending, borrowing and debt becomes a growth plan and Socialist becomes Liberal or Progressive (forcing Liberals, by definition, to begin calling themselves Libertarians because liberal now has a new meaning).

The plan never changes, only the verbiage.

So, conservatives use words as they are defined, like marriage while the liberal takes the word and uses it it mean almost the same thing, but with just a little tweak, it doesn't have to mean between a man and a woman, just two loving people (but never three! oh no, we can't have that!). This is how LIberals hope to get conservative votes, by sounding just like them, while meaning something totally different.

When I say I'm making an investment, you can take it to the bank. When a Liberal says he's making an investment, he has to take it from someone else, usually a conservative...

This is exactly why we know you were never a liberal: you have no grasp of what liberals believe whatsoever. All we get from you are lies and caricatures of liberalism. If you actually were a liberal you'd be able to articulate the position.

You're also a doofus when it comes to conservativism if you actually believe what you just typed. Conservatives don't distort words? Is this a joke post? YOU distort words. All the time. Constantly. You're doing it right now. Let me know if you want to start a thread on this topic and I'll absolutely shred you.

And nobody believes you're a libertarian either by the way. You agree with virtually the entire Republican Party platform. You're... just another Republican.

 

[unregistered]

 

[bra_man69]

Still haven't hit bottom yet.

 

[mercury14]

Nothing wrong with the Obama economic policy:

Maybe no housing rebound for a generation: Shiller

April 24, 2012|Reuters

Which Obama economic policy do you blame for the housing crisis?

 

[bra_man69]

Which Obama economic policy do you blame for the housing crisis?

Lol really didn't just ask that o my.

 

[eyer]

The BBC reports that "In the first three months of the year, 365,900 people in Spain lost their jobs", making a total of 5,639,500 Spaniards now unemployed, which equates to a national unemployment rate of 24.4%...

...exactly 5 years ago - April 2007 - Spain's unemployment rate sat @ 7.9%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17866382

 

[mercury14]

The BBC reports that "In the first three months of the year, 365,900 people in Spain lost their jobs", making a total of 5,639,500 Spaniards now unemployed, which equates to a national unemployment rate of 24.4%...

...exactly 5 years ago - April 2007 - Spain's unemployment rate sat @ 7.9%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17866382

So start a What happened to the doom and gloom Spanish economic threads thread.

 

[mercury14]

Lol really didn't just ask that o my.

Yeah. You going to answer it for Vette? Because he's just going to talk about my cock.

 

[eyer]

So start a What happened to the doom and gloom Spanish economic threads thread.

My...

...you and your "wife" sure seem sensitive today about thread posting protocol.

 

[bra_man69]

Yeah. You going to answer it for Vette? Because he's just going to talk about my cock.

Nope all my energy was used dealing with my kid tonight don't have anymore for another kid.
I don't know what to tell you about that.