Punctuation Predjuice

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mick60a

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I am posting this because when ever I submit a story and leave out some semi colons or
quotation marks in my stories , they get rejected.

"You don't want to confuse the reader do you!" Or some other type of comment.

But recently I read "Mark to Mary" by trannyslut from 2010. I have copied and pasted one paragraph from the story as an example of horrible writing. It all runs together making it hard to read.

I have not embellished this at all.


I walked into the living room and saw another new face. Mark, Mistress Amanda said, this is Mistress Dana. I got a good look at her, she was bout my height, maybe an inch shorter, and had short black hair and wore glasses. Hello Mistress Dana, I said, hello Mark, she said, your right Amanda, he will make a pretty girl. Though, Mark is not a very girlish name, Mistress Dana said, how about Mary? Mistress Amanda pondered it for a few seconds before smiling and saying, yes, Mary sounds perfect. I interrupted, Mistress Amanda, I said, may I ask where my clothes are? I stored them away, she said, you will get your clothes, keys, and other belongings when you leave here Sunday night.



Now when I write a story I leave spaces between conversation so that the reader has an easier time of reading.

"You were a bad boy!" Mistress Amanda said.

"I am most sorry Mistress!" i said..

But what makes me wonders is why the editors would let tranny slut get away with leaving out the quotation marks on this story and it's run on of words.

But yet If i leave out out one " it is denied.

Sorry this has always been a big sore point with me.


I just needed to vent!
 
Interesting, I've found trannies rarely miss the colon.


Joking of course :p
 
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As a wild guess, perhaps it's a matter of consistency? I mean, if someone always leaves out the quotes, perhaps that's different. I don't know. I'd say if you really want to know, send Laurel a PM.
 
It's odd because I've heard that a lot of stories get rejected due to improper dialogue punctuation.

I'm starting to wonder if there are stories that just get through without being looked at at all.
 
I've come across stories where the spelling was so bad complete paragraphs made no sense, so shit does get through on occasion.
 
I'd be curious to know the method the stories are checked. Obviously they're not read start to finish that would not be possible by one person.

I would think if someone's grammar and spelling were that horrific it would be obvious right away. Perhaps the story is opened to a random section?

Who knows? It's obvious we never will.
 
The big thing I notice, is that they start off great, but about a thousand words in they go to crap. Its like they rushed to finish, or lost interest.
 
I've also noticed that a lot of underage stuff I have seen get through is not apparent until after a page or so. Maybe they do just skim the front to get a 'feel' for the story then move on.
 
The editorial screen has a wide mesh. One very prolific author just posted a piece with so many punctuation errors that I decided against even trying to quibble. And "it's" for "its" twice in the first three paragraphs.

Freedom of speech certainly rules here. Long may it wave!
 
No, what it boils down to is a lack of "QC".

There is no way one person could be expected to go through these stories.

However this site gets millions of hits a day and has very low overhead. They could more than afford a couple of extra sets of eyes, but why spend the money?
 
No, what it boils down to is a lack of "QC".

There is no way one person could be expected to go through these stories.

However this site gets millions of hits a day and has very low overhead. They could more than afford a couple of extra sets of eyes, but why spend the money?

I guess generally no one minds. I know over at LushStories they have a number of people who approve stories, which results in much quicker turnaround. I haven't read a ton of stuff there, so I can't speak for quality control, but stories are generally posted within twenty-four hours, usually much less.

StoriesOnline.net also has a fast turnaround, sometimes bordering on immediate, but I don't know if it's automated or not.
 
I guess generally no one minds. I know over at LushStories they have a number of people who approve stories, which results in much quicker turnaround. I haven't read a ton of stuff there, so I can't speak for quality control, but stories are generally posted within twenty-four hours, usually much less.

StoriesOnline.net also has a fast turnaround, sometimes bordering on immediate, but I don't know if it's automated or not.

I don't know how much time Laz spends reading each story, but it's a one-man operation there as well.

The QC at Lush probably depends upon who's reading it for approval. Lots of them. I've had notes from two in addition to the approval notices thanking me for making their job easier by editing my stuff before posting it, so at least some of them are paying attention *laugh*
 
I don't know how much time Laz spends reading each story, but it's a one-man operation there as well.

The QC at Lush probably depends upon who's reading it for approval. Lots of them. I've had notes from two in addition to the approval notices thanking me for making their job easier by editing my stuff before posting it, so at least some of them are paying attention *laugh*

In other words they give shit over there.

Not only to put out a better product, but to acknowledge a good effort by a contributor as opposed to the motto of "take it or leave it" over here.
 
In other words they give shit over there.

Not only to put out a better product, but to acknowledge a good effort by a contributor as opposed to the motto of "take it or leave it" over here.

If you detest this site as much as it seems you do from your posts, why did you bother coming back?
 
If you detest this site as much as it seems you do from your posts, why did you bother coming back?

Exactly.

lit gets around 90 stories a day, of all standards. Say they average 2.5 lit pages,that equates to three quarters of a million words. Lush and SOL are nowhere near that popularity and don't edit stories.

The turnaround and QC here is pretty damn good for a free site that markets writers with favorites etc.

Sure, the dialogue punctuation in "Mark to Mary" should have got it rejected for editing but, given the volume of submissions, you get a pretty fantastic advertizing platform for free. From sr's whines down, I really don't understand why anyone could question the site's committment to promote their profitability together with launching saleable authors.
 
From sr's whines down, I really don't understand why anyone could question the site's committment to promote their profitability together with launching saleable authors.


Anyone want to hazard a translation of this sentence from Elfin--in particular, how it relates to me? :D
 
Lush and SOL are nowhere near that popularity and don't edit stories.

They may not get as much traffic, but one Lush moderator I emailed with said yes, they do edit stories (to what degree, I'm not sure). He and a couple of others have told me how glad they were to read mine, which needed little or no editing.

The turnaround and QC here is pretty damn good for a free site that markets writers with favorites etc.

I'm fine with the turnaround, I'd saw QC is questionable given some stories I see and have seen. I never thought of Lit as "marketing" me, though.
 
I'm fine with the turnaround, I'd saw QC is questionable given some stories I see and have seen. I never thought of Lit as "marketing" me, though.

Posting to Lit. as a marketing tool, if you're in the market, I get. (You just did it, by the way. You posted an announcement of your new work in the market to the recent releases thread at the top of the AH.)
 
Posting to Lit. as a marketing tool, if you're in the market, I get. (You just did it, by the way. You posted an announcement of your new work in the market to the recent releases thread at the top of the AH.)

Yes, that I get, too. I guess just in that post it sounded like Lit was actively marketing people. Using the threads, etc., to post book announcement and all is definitely advertising and marketing. I'm happy to do that. :)
 
Yes PL, exactly. Lit creates a symbiotic relationship between writers and the site that Lush and SOL don't promote.

For the good or bad, Lit 'markets' authors through the seasonal contests, the 7 day new list, the monthly and annual contests, together with the top lists and favorites.

The return is that popular authors give back by giving the site quality erotic writing and use the forums for self-promotion.

You do that in bucketloads.

My bitch with sr is that he takes and never gives. Despite his competence, never a critique for a newbie here. Using a cynical aside just to get his promotional material showcased. He doesn't play fair.
 
As usual, you are full of crap, Elfin. I answer newbie questions on a daily basis on the forum. You only show up to post bizarre mistatements to me.

I don't often go into detailed assessments, because I'm busy writing stories to contribute to the site. You haven't done that in a bunch of years. Beyond that, no one posting to the forum owes detailed assessments on review requests to anyone. And very few posting to the forum regularly provide them. Why don't you be balanced and do your silliness routine with some of the others?
 
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If you detest this site as much as it seems you do from your posts, why did you bother coming back?

I don't detest it.

When I make a remark like this, its to point out the simple fact that they don;t seem to care about quality.

Granted it is an author's responsibility to at least make an attempt at a legible story. But once it's up here it is a reflection on the site.

This site makes more than enough money without a ton of overhead to throw a few bucks two a second or third pair of eyes to ensure better quality of stories and to enforce some of the rules they say they have.

There are some people here who want to read pure stroke and won't give a rats ass where the commas are.

But there are people who do like to read a reasonably well presented story and will shake their heads and say, "well they obviously don't care here" if they land on a few shitty ones out of the gate.

Sorry, I guess I am not a good koolaid drinker or lickspittle.
 
You conflate "reason" with "excuse." Folks come here asking why either the submissions process is slow or the clearing process isn't uniform on quality control. And then when someone gives the reason--that there's only one editor clearing upwards of seventy stories day in and day out--you hop on them for giving that perfectly explanatory reason. It may not be what you consider an acceptable excuse given your estimate of potential revenues (which you know nothing more about than I do--which is nothing), but it's a perfectly good reason.

This is the website we've been given to play with for free. If you don't like it, take a hike. You can hardly say you're not getting your money's worth here.
 
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Yes PL, exactly. Lit creates a symbiotic relationship between writers and the site that Lush and SOL don't promote.

For the good or bad, Lit 'markets' authors through the seasonal contests, the 7 day new list, the monthly and annual contests, together with the top lists and favorites.

The return is that popular authors give back by giving the site quality erotic writing and use the forums for self-promotion.

You do that in bucketloads.

My bitch with sr is that he takes and never gives. Despite his competence, never a critique for a newbie here. Using a cynical aside just to get his promotional material showcased. He doesn't play fair.

I don't know how long Lush has been around or what its history is. Lit may be the top site simply being in existence long enough. Lush also has more content restrictions than Lit does. However, they also have forums and contests, although I haven't had the time or chance to participate in them. I do get the impression, though, that readers/users at Lush are pretty loyal.

I would agree that SOL does not offer these opportunities. They have fewer content restrictions, but they rarely offer contests and although I understand they have forums, I don't think they're used as heavily as Lit's.

I have to disagree on SR. I've seen him answer questions, often the same ones, same as I answer or Darkniciad or a few others. And so what if he doesn't critique? If people ask for that, he's free to say no, as are we all. And he's not asking people to read or critique his. I'm sure there are plenty of people who post here and just "use" Lit's resources as opposed to participating in the community. So what? And SR does participate. But posting here, either stories or in the forums, does not obligate anyone to provide a story critique.
 
I don't detest it.

When I make a remark like this, its to point out the simple fact that they don;t seem to care about quality.

Granted it is an author's responsibility to at least make an attempt at a legible story. But once it's up here it is a reflection on the site.

But you obviously tolerate this or you wouldn't keep posting. And as for a reflection on the site -- it doesn't seem to deter too many people, judging by the number of stories that get posted daily, and what I've seen about hits.

If you care that they don't care about quality, then why keep posting here?

The way I see it, it's not anything I have control over. Therefore, I either post and ignore the "bad" stories, or I go elsewhere. Like at SOL -- I didn't post there for a long time b/c they had no rules and I wasn't sure I wanted my stuff on the same site with some of what's there. However, I decided to do it anyway, as stories are usually well-tagged, and have had great feedback from there.
 
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