Justice for Trayvon??

[brw02]

Ishmael, let's hear your case. I'm not expecting much, but I'm willing to listen. Calling someone an idiot is not very enlightening.

 

[brw02]

Stand your ground legislation, which I generally am in favor of, allows you to use deadly force in self-defense. I don't see where it applies here. I have yet to see what, if any threat posed by a kid with some snacks in his hand. Never heard of anyone being killed by Twinkies,

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The prosecutor doesn't think so, and she's the one that counts most. We don't know what she's got for evidence. If we don't, that professor's opinion isn't worth much. Take it to trial and see where it goes. If GZ was justified in shooting Trayvon, they can make their case in court.

I watched the bail hearing. I've been to a gozillion of these events and written the probable cause affidavits for 100s. Think of the PBA as a preview of coming attractions; the PBA for George Zimmerman is an appeal to spend Saturday night with granny, playing Scrabble.

The investigator admits he cant refute Zimmermans claims of what happened, and he confirms he didnt read the medical report for Zimmermans injuries. And admits he used the perjorative term PROFILED rather than WATCHED. Ditto for CONFRONTED.

Within effective PBAs the investigator uses terms at the most concrete level of the ladder of abstraction.

The state's stuff didnt impress the judge.

When you got the facts, you pound the facts. When you got no facts, you pound the table.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Stand your ground legislation, which I generally am in favor of, allows you to use deadly force in self-defense. I don't see where it applies here. I have yet to see what, if any threat posed by a kid with some snacks in his hand. Never heard of anyone being killed by Twinkies,

You have been victimized by the press.

I have taught martial arts for 30+ years, Trayvon was a strong, quick, adrenaline-charged machine just beginning his peak years, he was not, just a kid. At his age, I was in the Marines being trained to, well, do what Marines do...

It is not your fault, but they had a story they wanted to tell, similar to the Duke LaCross case, the story of how rich white people continue to victimize minorities because they feel privileged, this is why Zimmerman was reported to be white, from a gated community and why they only showed you pictures of a youthful Trayvon, why they showed you only the worst possible picture of Zimmerman, and why they doctored evidence.

You should be mad at ABC, NBC, MSNBC and CBS for launching a lynch mob in pretty much the same manner as they convicted poor William Jewel.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In taking the stand, Zimmerman opened himself up to questions from de la Rionda, who grilled him on whether he made an apology to police on the night of the shooting, and why he waited so long to express remorse to Martin's parents.
Zimmerman said he told police he felt sorry for the parents. He also said he didn't say anything to them sooner because his former attorneys told him not to.

The parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, had no comment as they left the courtroom.. Their attorneys spurned the apology.

"This was the most disingenuous and unfair thing I've seen," said attorney Natalie Jackson. "This was the most unmeaningful apology."

As part of the bail hearing, Zimmerman's family testified that he wouldn't flee if released and would be no threat to the community.

"He is absolutely not a violent person," said his wife, Shellie Zimmerman.

Zimmerman's father, Robert Zimmerman, said that even when confronted, his son was likely to "turn the other cheek." The father also described his son's injuries the morning after Martin was shot, saying he had a cut and swollen lip, a protective cover over his nose and gashes on the back of his head.

Zimmerman's mother, Gladys, said her son worked with two black children as part of a mentoring program that required him to venture into a dangerous neighborhood. "He said, 'Mom, if I don't go, they don't have nobody,'" she recalled.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120421/D9U97OH00.html

 

[eyer]

Take it to trial and see where it goes. If GZ was justified in shooting Trayvon, they can make their case in court.

You understand that the only case that must be made is the State of Florida must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman intentionally murdered Trayvon Martin...

...right?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You understand that the only case that must be made is the State of Florida must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman intentionally murdered Trayvon Martin...

...right?

The poster, I think, believes that that is actually the case and anyone who believes otherwise is probably a racist.

Just going by the posts I've read.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You have been victimized by the press.

I have taught martial arts for 30+ years, Trayvon was a strong, quick, adrenaline-charged machine just beginning his peak years, he was not, just a kid. At his age, I was in the Marines being trained to, well, do what Marines do...

It is not your fault, but they had a story they wanted to tell, similar to the Duke LaCross case, the story of how rich white people continue to victimize minorities because they feel privileged, this is why Zimmerman was reported to be white, from a gated community and why they only showed you pictures of a youthful Trayvon, why they showed you only the worst possible picture of Zimmerman, and why they doctored evidence.

You should be mad at ABC, NBC, MSNBC and CBS for launching a lynch mob in pretty much the same manner as they convicted poor William Jewel.

I'm very curious to hear how being a martial arts teacher qualifies you to talk about how quick & strong Martin was from just looking at pictures of him when was 12.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm very curious to hear how being a martial arts teacher qualifies you to talk about how quick & strong Martin was from just looking at pictures of him when was 12.

It was a general statement about youth and growth.

Next time I will type slower and in crayon...

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You really are a moron.

Throw your version of events out for public scrutiny and lets see where the cards fall.

Place your bet.

Ishmael

Personal attack & another attempt to change the subject.

I asked you, to explain what evidence you saw that led you to believe Martin attacked Zimmerman.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

It was a general statement about youth and growth.

Next time I will type slower and in crayon...

So you ironically are guilty of the very same thing you're accusing the media of.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So you ironically are guilty of the very same thing you're accusing the media of.

What am I guilty of?


Show me where I have pronounced anyone innocent or guilty.

You might even want to go back to the other thread and show us the socialism in my OP while you're at it.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

What am I guilty of?


Show me where I have pronounced anyone innocent or guilty.

You might even want to go back to the other thread and show us the socialism in my OP while you're at it.

You're guilty of the same thing you're accusing the media of. I thought that was very clear.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You're guilty of the same thing you're accusing the media of. I thought that was very clear.

Now we know you're obfuscating having been caught making an erroneous statement; trying to vaguely double down on it without explaining yourself is the tell...

 

[Peregrinator]

You must of been in the Air Force.

In which branch did they teach that prepositions and auxiliary verbs are the same thing?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Now we know you're obfuscating having been caught making an erroneous statement; trying to vaguely double down on it without explaining yourself is the tell...

I need to explain it after you openly admit it?

 

[Ishmael]

So Spidey, let's here your version of events. Weave your tale around what facts we know.

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So Spidey, let's here your version of events. Weave your tale around what facts we know.

Ishmael

Keep on tap dancing to change the subject.

 

[Ishmael]

Keep on tap dancing to change the subject.

What a fucking moron. Take up the challenge or get lost.

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

What a fucking moron. Take up the challenge or get lost.

Ishmael

Personal attack & attempt to change the topic again.

You're the one afraid to answer a question.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Hahahaha, sorry about that.

I like to think of me as Air Force grafted to Marine Corps root stock

 

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