Justice for Trayvon??

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[SgtSpiderMan]

You gotta love it. In order for all of the conjecture that's being tossed around to fly there has to be a vast conspiracy taking place that involves Zimmerman, the witnesses, and every police officer and EMT that was on the scene. It is up to the prosecution to show that all of those folks purposely lied on the reports and affidavits. I don't think that the prosecution is up to that task.

Ishmael

So after years of demonizing unionized government workers, you're quick to support them when it suits you.

Do you have the guts to stand by a single one of your convictions?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

One you should have known the answer to in the first place.

We both do. Which is why you ran away so fast.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Smells in here

You said it. It's like walking down a boulevard and all the bar windows have their storefront neon signs in Comic Sans.

 

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[SgtSpiderMan]

Who's running away?

You.

Instead of answering the question (which wasn't addressed to you) you jumped in & changed the topic. Why not simply answer the question?

 

[miles]

You.

Instead of answering the question (which wasn't addressed to you) you jumped in & changed the topic. Why not simply answer the question?

If you weren't asking him the question why do you want him to answer it, and how in the hell could he change the topic?????????

 

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[Ishmael]

It's all here, the known facts, the police reports, pictures, everything. And all of the narratives woven around those facts, from the simplistic, to the stretches, to the incredulous.

There's no point in me reiterating what's already been posted for no other reason than to engage in an endless circle jerk. Go ahead and make up your own narrative, just make damn sure it matches the facts and the time line.

Ishmael

 

[sethp]

It's all here, the known facts, the police reports, pictures, everything. And all of the narratives woven around those facts, from the simplistic, to the stretches, to the incredulous.

There's no point in me reiterating what's already been posted for no other reason than to engage in an endless circle jerk. Go ahead and make up your own narrative, just make damn sure it matches the facts and the time line.

Ishmael

That's just it isn't it? We don't have all the facts and evidence, just some that's been leaked to us. Nothing will be known for sure until the trial and there needs to be a trial.

 

[eyer]

That's just it isn't it? We don't have all the facts and evidence, just some that's been leaked to us. Nothing will be known for sure until the trial and there needs to be a trial.

Kumbyyah, bro...

...I ain't gotta problem with a trial.

But...

...what evidence is there at all to charge the man with intentional 2nd Degree Murder?

Do you really mean to post that you're happy with a circumstantial trial...

...as much as you seem to be with the circumstantial arraignment?

Unless there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman intentionally killed Martin, he's gonna walk...

...then we can do this baloney all over again when Obama's administration tries to apply their own brand of "justice".

The prosecution screwed-up by going for the head-shot...

...instead of taking better aim with Manslaughter.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

That's just it isn't it? We don't have all the facts and evidence, just some that's been leaked to us. Nothing will be known for sure until the trial and there needs to be a trial.

You said it beautifully.

Ironically Ish will bash anyone else who offers a viewpoint counter to his and he will tell them they don't know all the facts. But strangely even though he doesn't know all the facts he can make up his own narrative and when someone asks him about it he can conveniently not want to rehash the events.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Kumbyyah, bro...

...I ain't gotta problem with a trial.

But...

...what evidence is there at all to charge the man with intentional 2nd Degree Murder?

Do you really mean to post that you're happy with a circumstantial trial...

...as much as you seem to be with the circumstantial arraignment?

Unless there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman intentionally killed Martin, he's gonna walk...

...then we can do this baloney all over again when Obama's administration tries to apply their own brand of "justice".

The prosecution screwed-up by going for the head-shot...

...instead of taking better aim with Manslaughter.

I don't think Obama even could move on this at this point. Had the local prosecuter passed then he could have but at this point it would be double jeopardy wouldn't it?

I'm cautiously optimistic about the 2nd Degree charges. One of the downsides of how our justice system works is that in order to make the numbers look good and to some extent to save on time, DA's job isn't to find the truth, it's to put a man away and for as long as possible. Which tells me that the fact that they went after 2nd Degree Murder instead of say involuntary manslaughter tells me that there one of three things something extraordinarily damning here that we haven't seen, the DA is trying to be a Rock Star and this will blow up fantastically in their face or (and I doubt this third one) the DA is basically in on the conspiracy. They decided they needed to have a trial they intentionally over shot so the defense can easily sway a jury and they can say they tried him and he was found innocent.

 

[Wrong Element]

There should only be a trial if the "evidence" warrants a trial. So far one of the most liberal professors of law in the United States is saying it's bogus.

News flash: America's best known defense attorney sympathizes with defendant.

Right after these messages, watch a dog bite a man!

 

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[SgtSpiderMan]

There should only be a trial if the "evidence" warrants a trial. So far one of the most liberal professors of law in the United States is saying it's bogus.

And a bunch of the most right wing folks in the country saying there's enough evidence for a trial.

 

[Ishmael]

You said it beautifully.

Ironically Ish will bash anyone else who offers a viewpoint counter to his and he will tell them they don't know all the facts. But strangely even though he doesn't know all the facts he can make up his own narrative and when someone asks him about it he can conveniently not want to rehash the events.

And a bunch of the most right wing folks in the country saying there's enough evidence for a trial.

You're an idiot, you've always been an idiot. When you understand that I don't have a dog in this fight you might come close to approaching my thoughts on the matter.

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You're an idiot, you've always been an idiot. When you understand that I don't have a dog in this fight you might come close to approaching my thoughts on the matter.

Ishmael

A personal attack and a response that shows you failed to comprehend my post. Not much has changed in a decade.

How could I understand your thinking, when I just asked you to explain it, and you refused?

I also love the non-logic in your reply. So anyone who doesn't have a dog in this fight (like all of us on the board), is also right about this case (even though you've said several times no one has all the facts)?

 

[Ishmael]

A personal attack and a response that shows you failed to comprehend my post. Not much has changed in a decade.

How could I understand your thinking, when I just asked you to explain it, and you refused?

I also love the non-logic in your reply. So anyone who doesn't have a dog in this fight (like all of us on the board), is also right about this case (even though you've said several times no one has all the facts)?

So having failed on the low ground you're now attempting to approach the high ground.

Sorry, you're still unable to winnow the chaff.

Ishmael

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So having failed on the low ground you're now attempting to approach the high ground.

Sorry, you're still unable to winnow the chaff.

Ishmael

Sure Ish, I took the low ground in asking you to explain your thinking. Which, by the way, you still won't do. Care to stick to the topic & drop the unwarranted personal attacks?

 

[Ishmael]

Sure Ish, I took the low ground in asking you to explain your thinking. Which, by the way, you still won't do. Care to stick to the topic & drop the unwarranted personal attacks?

You really are a moron.

Throw your version of events out for public scrutiny and lets see where the cards fall.

Place your bet.

Ishmael

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You should learn how to shoot. Your technique has all the elements of wrong. Your trigger finger is too far into the guard. Should be just the pad of your fingertip. You must of been in the Air Force.

fuck you

 

[brw02]

There should only be a trial if the "evidence" warrants a trial. So far one of the most liberal professors of law in the United States is saying it's bogus.

The prosecutor doesn't think so, and she's the one that counts most. We don't know what she's got for evidence. If we don't, that professor's opinion isn't worth much. Take it to trial and see where it goes. If GZ was justified in shooting Trayvon, they can make their case in court.