vandwelling

[paganangel]

anyone know about this?
i actually think there's a member here who does it.

it's an alternative lifestyle and fascinating. infatuating too. with so many people here who are just a bit different, i wondered about peoples thoughts on the modern gypsy movement.

it's bigger than you think and growing. and not just because of economics. there's a reductionist/minimalist angle, a green angle, a hippy angle, and more.

i just thought there maybe some valuable opinions here.

 

[thør]

I remember a character named Frank in the Kim Stanley Robinson 'Science in the Capital' series that moved to the van (and a tree house in a park). Having lived in a van for the summer of '77, I found it interesting. It's impractical in the climate where I live. The "tiny house" is more practical, but it's difficult to find a spot to put it. Heat and waste management are two large hurdles.

 

[clutch1]

I don't care if one or two adults want to live like that.
But if I see a kid climbing out of some van that's parked somewhere for a long time, I'm calling someone.

 

[paganangel]

I remember a character named Frank in the Kim Stanley Robinson 'Science in the Capital' series that moved to the van (and a tree house in a park). Having lived in a van for the summer of '77, I found it interesting. It's impractical in the climate where I live. The "tiny house" is more practical, but it's difficult to find a spot to put it. Heat and waste management are two large hurdles.

these folks seem to get by fine. they have solar, windgens, agm batteries, etc.
they have porta pottis or luggable loos.
as for climate, they learn to be comfortable using heaters, fans, ac, and snwbirding.
the ac/heat situation is the biggest issue due to power draw, but they get around it.

 

[paganangel]

I don't care if one or two adults want to live like that.
But if I see a kid climbing out of some van that's parked somewhere for a long time, I'm calling someone.

why?
if he's not alone in there all day.

most people with kids opt for stick and brick. but some don't. so what? often they'll upsize to an rv, but not always.

 

[clutch1]

why?
if he's not alone in there all day.

most people with kids opt for stick and brick. but some don't. so what? often they'll upsize to an rv, but not always.

Living in a cramped filthy van is no way for a kid to live.
Now a RV at a campground with others who decide to live that lifestyle is one thing. It provides a little structure.
But if they're parking on a crowded street, and watching other kids step outside of their doors every morning to go to school, and they get out of a van it has to do something to the kids psyche in the long term.

 

[TonyClifton]

Submitting useless/pointless threads is in direct violation of this forum's terms of service agreement.

 

[lovetoread]

Submitting useless/pointless threads is in direct violation of this forum's terms of service agreement.

Uh oh, kitty mama starts them too. Will she need to ban herself?

 

[hummermania]

It is my fondest dream, and my retirement plan.
I will buy a bus or trailer and live in it aand travel.

 

[thør]

these folks seem to get by fine. they have solar, windgens, agm batteries, etc.
they have porta pottis or luggable loos.
as for climate, they learn to be comfortable using heaters, fans, ac, and snwbirding.
the ac/heat situation is the biggest issue due to power draw, but they get around it.

So, they basically just have a camper?

 

[Batch]

Now that kindle and nooks, etc, exist one wouldn't have to suffer without

books.

 

[thør]

Now that kindle and nooks, etc, exist one wouldn't have to suffer without

books.

No need for the trailer.

 

[Batch]

No need for the trailer.

Just a backpack and good shoes, eh?

 

[thør]

Just a backpack and good shoes, eh?

Indeed.

 

[Bert Notorius]

The hippies really raised it to an art form. Anything else is just a crude knockoff. But then G/god punished us with aids, so maybe it wasn't such a great idea after all.

 

[Batch]

Sexual congress is off the table!

 

[paganangel]

Living in a cramped filthy van is no way for a kid to live.
Now a RV at a campground with others who decide to live that lifestyle is one thing. It provides a little structure.
But if they're parking on a crowded street, and watching other kids step outside of their doors every morning to go to school, and they get out of a van it has to do something to the kids psyche in the long term.

so you admit you're making a lot of assumptions?
it's a different life. you're making judgements without information, and inserting information to fit them.

Submitting useless/pointless threads is in direct violation of this forum's terms of service agreement.

no it isn't and this isn't pointless. and kaufman was funny, clifton wasn't.

It is my fondest dream, and my retirement plan.
I will buy a bus or trailer and live in it aand travel.

one of my dreams too... but why wait?

So, they basically just have a camper?

some have conversion vans, some convert cargos, some have trailers, rv's or fifth wheels. the homemade conversions are pretty impressive.

Now that kindle and nooks, etc, exist one wouldn't have to suffer without

books.

they all have them, and small dvd players.

Just a backpack and good shoes, eh?

big part of the appeal. many live on blm or nf land.
not to mention the stealthers.

 

[Batch]

stealthers?

off the grid folk?

 

[paganangel]

stealthers?

off the grid folk?

no, stealth dwellers refer to people who live in vans or trucks, but don't LOOK like it. you can't tell from the outside that the rig is a camper or has someone living in it.
it allows them to live and work in cites or towns while not having a house or apartment. it also makes travelling much less expensive.
they ARE largely off grid, but there are off griders who don't stealth camp. they have huge rigs that are obviously campers.

 

[Batch]

no, stealth dwellers refer to people who live in vans or trucks, but don't LOOK like it. you can't tell from the outside that the rig is a camper or has someone living in it.
it allows them to live and work in cites or towns while not having a house or apartment. it also makes traveling much less expensive.
they ARE largely off grid, but there are off griders who don't stealth camp. they have huge rigs that are obviously campers.

Ah, I understand.

 

[ksmybuttons]

I know a number of people who live, or have lived, off the grid. Musicians.

 

[KRCummings]

Hitler hated Gypsies with a passion. Arguably even more than Jews.

Just sayin'.

 

[paganangel]

Hitler hated Gypsies with a passion. Arguably even more than Jews.

Just sayin'.

There's a GREAT scene about that in the old b*TV show, 'forever Knight ' or 'night'

 

[warrior queen]

*sigh* nostalgic moment....
I loved living in a van. Reminded me of living on the yacht.
Wanna move?
Just go!

The freedom was intoxicating.

 

[paganangel]

*sigh* nostalgic moment....
I loved living in a van. Reminded me of living on the yacht.
Wanna move?
Just go!

The freedom was intoxicating.

for how long did you do it?