Justice for Trayvon??

[Frizzle_Fry]

You tried to compare a fucking commercial about chicken I had never even heard of to the death of a young man.

Oh...now he's a man. I thought he was an innocent child that was incapable of doing anything bad because he was 17 and not yet 18.

just like the picture of the 10 y/o portrays.

http://www.blackyouthproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin1-391x400.jpg

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

Way to completely miss the point dumbass. I didn't say that at all.

There are several KNOWN facts in this case.

Zimmerman was following Trayvon.

The 911 dispatcher told him "we don't need you to do that".

He continued to follow the boy anyway.

He exited his vehicle (Unless it's your contention that the boy dragged a man twice his size from a vehicle)

A physical confrontation that could have been avoided had Zimmerman simply called in the "suspicious kid' as a neighborhood WATCH is supposed to do resulted in a dead unarmed young man.

Please feel free to point out any known facts I have left out.

I guess you totally missed my post that blew most of your emotional bullshit out of the water. Typical media zombie

 

[busybody..]

Forget it UD, you don't have the intellect to understand what I was getting at.

See, and read about the chicken ad.

You may get a connection..... "race"

he gets it

he just pretends not to

 

[Dream59]

A minor is still a minor. 17 or not he was a kid.

My opinion, Zimmerman is a loose cannon and probably deserves jail time for his actions. Self defense doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned. Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he decided to ignore advice from the 911 dispatcher, continue to follow the kid, then exit his vehicle and cause what turned out to be a deadly physical confrontation with an unarmed teen aged kid.

This is the issue, not the race of Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Where I live we had a quad murder a few months ago. Three young men, two 16 year olds, and a 17 year old were arrested for those murders. The age of the person has no bearing on what happened to Trayvon. Wether he was 17 or 45 does not matter. The only thing that matters is what happened in the seconds before he was shot. Even if it was relevent how would Zimmerman know how old the kid was? There is one thing I will assure you about and that is if I ever feel my life is threatened, the age of the person threatening me will not be one of the things I consider when I am forming a plan of action.

 

[busybody..]

Typical media zombie

WE ARE ALL BUSYBODY!

 

[garbage can]

Way to completely miss the point dumbass. I didn't say that at all.

There are several KNOWN facts in this case.

Zimmerman was following Trayvon.

The 911 dispatcher told him "we don't need you to do that".

He continued to follow the boy anyway.

He exited his vehicle (Unless it's your contention that the boy dragged a man twice his size from a vehicle)

A physical confrontation that could have been avoided had Zimmerman simply called in the "suspicious kid' as a neighborhood WATCH is supposed to do resulted in a dead unarmed young man.

Please feel free to point out any known facts I have left out.

You have enough known facts to qualify Zimmer as a racist.

We were talking racism on the other thread weren't we..?..

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Where I live we had a quad murder a few months ago. Three young men, two 16 year olds, and a 17 year old were arrested for those murders. The age of the person has no bearing on what happened to Trayvon. Wether he was 17 or 45 does not matter. The only thing that matters is what happened in the seconds before he was shot. Even if it was relevent how would Zimmerman know how old the kid was? There is one thing I will assure you about and that is if I ever feel my life is threatened, the age of the person threatening me will not be one of the things I consider when I am forming a plan of action.

You're ignoring the actual point and going off on a tangent of the young man's age.

Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he ignored the instructions of the 911 dispatcher to stop following the young man who was on foot. He continued to follow, for some reason he got out of his vehicle, and became involved in a physical altercation that he had every opportunity to avoid, and the unarmed young man was shot dead. Zimmerman's life was only in danger because he chose to put it in danger by ignoring the instructions of law enforcement.

Had Zimmerman heeded the instructions of the 911 operator and stopped following the young man then we would not be having this conversation. The police were already en route as near as I can tell from the transcripts of the call.

Had he not exited his vehicle and become involved in a physical altercation with the young man, we would not be having this conversation.

Had he been acting as a neighborhood WATCH instead of a wannabe law enforcement officer, we would not be having this conversation.

He CHOSE to engage the young man, he was not FORCED to use his weapon.
Zimmerman had at least three chances to avoid what turned out to be a deadly confrontation.

edit:
Just to add, I have my CCW.. If someone attacks me and I feel that my life or someone else's is in danger I will not hesitate to use my weapon. But from everything that I have read about this incident, this is nowhere near a justified shooting.

 

[Disgustipated]

Fucking hell, Garbage Can is dumb and vettebirther agrees with him. 'Nuff said.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You have enough known facts to qualify Zimmer as a racist.

We were talking racism on the other thread weren't we..?..

Insisting on telling me what I think despite my having spelled out exactly what I think about the matter huh moron?
Let me try to use smaller words so that you can possibly understand.

I don't know or care if it was racially motivated.

What I believe is that Zimmerman had every opportunity to avoid an altercation. Had been TOLD not to follow the kid in his car while talking to 911. He continued to do so, got out and confronted the kid and ended up shooting him. That is NOT self defense IMO.

His official function as neighborhood WATCH is to watch and report to police (which he did), not to follow, confront, and shoot "suspicious kids".

 

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[IrezumiKiss]

Try speaking English..........

Try growing a brain, Mr. "Deductive Reasoning."

Then maybe the next time you drop names or whatever it is you find on your daily aggregate news bulletins on "black people and racism" you'll be able to discern whether it's fucking relevant to the issue. You got nothing, so you're just squawking like the rest of your free-range chicken buddies in here.

Oh, if your grey matter is still too watery to understand english, then go sit down on Vette's lap and have him crack open that overused thesaurus he loves to milk.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

You're ignoring the actual point and going off on a tangent of the young man's age.

A minor is still a minor. 17 or not he was a kid.

You brought it up.

Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he ignored the instructions of the 911 dispatcher to stop following the young man who was on foot. He continued to follow, for some reason he got out of his vehicle.

And there was nothing Illegal about him getting out and asking the kid what he was up to.

and became involved in a physical altercation that he had every opportunity to avoid, and the unarmed young man was shot dead.

Weather or not the now 'man' seeing as you insisted he was a child earlier I'm not really sure what to call him was unarmed is totally fucking irrelevant. More emotional dribble.

His life was only in danger because he chose to put it in danger by ignoring the instructions of law enforcement.

Wrong...dispatchers are not LEO's.

Had Zimmerman heeded the instructions of the 911 operator and stopped following the young man then we would not be having this conversation. The police were already en route as near as I can tell from the transcripts of the call.

Had he not exited his vehicle and become involved in a physical altercation with the young man, we would not be having this conversation.

Had he been acting as a neighborhood WATCH instead of a wannabe law enforcement officer, we would not be having this conversation.

All emotional bullshit speculation....all of this is irrelevant, because nothing about this is illegal.

He CHOSE to engage the young man, he was not FORCED to use his weapon.
Zimmerman had at least three chances to avoid what turned out to be a deadly confrontation.

Did he engage him? Really? Zimmerman hoped out took a knee and opened fire at the kid no questions asked?? you know that for a fact? you know for a fact the 17 y/o Man boy didnt pop off with an attitude and attack Zimmerman first?

All emotional bullshit fed to you by the media. I fully expect you to ignore this because it actually contradicts the bullshit that has been fed to you. Had it not been for the media he would just be another one of thousands of kids to die unnoticed in a fucked up situation this year.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

What I believe is that Zimmerman had every opportunity to avoid an altercation. Had been TOLD not to follow the kid in his car while talking to 911. He continued to do so, got out and confronted the kid

And what about any of that is illegal??

and ended up shooting him. That is NOT self defense IMO. .

The law sayz otherwise if the he was being assaulted.

 

[islandman]

Has justice been served yet?

I ask because last I saw, The Good Reverend Al Sharpton was playing audio analyst on MSNBC, so I figured this entire affair would be wrapped up in no time.

 

[Dream59]

You're ignoring the actual point and going off on a tangent of the young man's age.

Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he ignored the instructions of the 911 dispatcher to stop following the young man who was on foot. He continued to follow, for some reason he got out of his vehicle, and became involved in a physical altercation that he had every opportunity to avoid, and the unarmed young man was shot dead. Zimmerman's life was only in danger because he chose to put it in danger by ignoring the instructions of law enforcement.

Had Zimmerman heeded the instructions of the 911 operator and stopped following the young man then we would not be having this conversation. The police were already en route as near as I can tell from the transcripts of the call.

Had he not exited his vehicle and become involved in a physical altercation with the young man, we would not be having this conversation.

Had he been acting as a neighborhood WATCH instead of a wannabe law enforcement officer, we would not be having this conversation.

He CHOSE to engage the young man, he was not FORCED to use his weapon.
Zimmerman had at least three chances to avoid what turned out to be a deadly confrontation.

Did Zimmerman follow after being told not to do so, or was he on his way back to the truck? Did Zimmerman start the altercation and choose to engage Trayvon or did Trayvon who was about 35 yards from his front door double back and engage Zimmerman? These are questions that may or may not be answered. But they have nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of either party. Zimmerman had the same right to follow Trayvon as Trayvon had to walk through the subdivision. Even if he made contact with Trayvon it is irrelevent. The only thing that matters is, Was Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, banging his head into the concrete. If so then case closed and Zimmerman walks. If not then Zimmerman should be arrested and charged. Just because I push you, or grab you does not give you the right to cause me possible brain injury or death. It gives you the right to strike me, if you feel you need to do so for your protection, but once I am on the ground and no longer a threat, then you are compelled by law to stop your attack.

So basically I am saying learn something about the law, stop arguing about issues that do not go to the actual shooting, in other words stop bitching about the irrelevent.

 

[busybody..]

You brought it up.



And there was nothing Illegal about him getting out and asking the kid what he was up to.



Weather or not the now 'man' seeing as you insisted he was a child earlier I'm not really sure what to call him was unarmed is totally fucking irrelevant. More emotional dribble.



Wrong...dispatchers are not LEO's.



All emotional bullshit speculation....all of this is irrelevant, because nothing about this is illegal.



Did he engage him? Really? Zimmerman hoped out took a knee and opened fire at the kid no questions asked?? you know that for a fact? you know for a fact the 17 y/o Man boy didnt pop off with an attitude and attack Zimmerman first?

All emotional bullshit fed to you by the media. I fully expect you to ignore this because it actually contradicts the bullshit that has been fed to you. Had it not been for the media he would just be another one of thousands of kids to die unnoticed in a fucked up situation this year.

Dummy, You are a DUMMY

You know that?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Did Zimmerman follow after being told not to do so, or was he on his way back to the truck? Did Zimmerman start the altercation and choose to engage Trayvon or did Trayvon who was about 35 yards from his front door double back and engage Zimmerman? These are questions that may or may not be answered. But they have nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of either party. Zimmerman had the same right to follow Trayvon as Trayvon had to walk through the subdivision. Even if he made contact with Trayvon it is irrelevent. The only thing that matters is, Was Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, banging his head into the concrete. If so then case closed and Zimmerman walks. If not then Zimmerman should be arrested and charged. Just because I push you, or grab you does not give you the right to cause me possible brain injury or death. It gives you the right to strike me, if you feel you need to do so for your protection, but once I am on the ground and no longer a threat, then you are compelled by law to stop your attack.

So basically I am saying learn something about the law, stop arguing about issues that do not go to the actual shooting, in other words stop bitching about the irrelevent.

You really don't understand the justice system at all do you?

Simple question if Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman banging his head into the concrete what circumstances can you come up with where Trayvon would still be the victim?

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

His father says otherwise, so who's "facts" are really facts? Dummy.

Was the father there? What facts does he bring to the table about the encounter?

 

[busybody..]

Was the father there? What facts does he bring to the table about the encounter?

hey NIGGERUD, neither were you.....

 

[busybody..]

Its now becoming that this case will blow up in the face of the NIGGERZ....but that ZIM will be crucified just to forestall RIOTS

NONE OF THE THINGS ANYONE SAYS ABOUT ZIM ARE TRUE

The NIGGERZ on this thread, that dont have the BALLS to read my shit

Are screaming at BUSYBODY, cause they know, he POSTS REALITY!

FUCK YOU NIGGERZ, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE HACKED TO PIECES BY THE BEASTS YOU PROTECT


Zimmerman Passed Voice Stress Test Given By Sanford Police On Night Of Shooting…




He’s still a racist killer who shoots blacks for sport . . . or something.


(Reuters) — George Zimmerman’s defense team is growing, suggesting that he’s planning for a grand jury indictment and a subsequent criminal trial. Interestingly, his new attorney has begun releasing some previously unknown facts.

Did you know that, on the night of Trayvon Martin’s death, Sanford police gave George Zimmerman a voice stress test?

They did, and the results probably contributed to his release [he passed].

A voice stress test is like a polygraph, but instead of measuring heart rate and blood pressure, it looks for changes in an individual’s voice patterns that are thought to suggest psychological stress. With the help of software, investigators record a suspect answering baseline questions and then compare them to answers about the case.

This technology is not unique to Sanford. The National Institute for Truth Verification, a manufacturer of the technology, claims that over 1,800 local, state and federal law enforcement agencies use their product. They also claim to have trained U.S. Military personnel.

 

[garbage can]

Peace be upon you and your eternally virginal wife Dizzybooby, you psychotic fuckstick.

Best as I can tell, the psychosis is in your court.

But then, you wouldn't understand.

Pay attention to RDS, learn from him.

 

[busybody..]

In this CUNTRY, where one is innocent till proven guity

That one must be guilty beyond a reasonabke doubt

THERE IS SO MUCH HERE THAT POINTS TO HIS INNOCENCE

YET HE WILL BE FRIED

CAUSE THE US IS AFRAID OF NIGGERZ

 

[busybody..]

Best as I can tell, the psychosis is in your court.

But then, you wouldn't understand.

Pay attention to RDS, learn from him.

I hope you arent saying that in an attempt to protect me

Cause I say worse to him

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Best as I can tell, the psychosis is in your court.

But then, you wouldn't understand.

Pay attention to RDS, learn from him.

Bwahahahahaha!

Jesus you're a blithering idiot if you don't see dizzybooby as a psychotic.. But then... You ARE a blithering idiot.