Justice for Trayvon??

Jesus H. :rolleyes:

You've posted some pretty damned stupid shit before but even trying to compare a stupid fast food advertisement with the shooting of a young black kid?
That's fucking industrial grade stupid right there.

It wasn't a comparison of the severity of racism, it was simply an example of what assholes like you will call racism.

Now, You've decided that both Zimmer and Burger King are racists, I apologize for making a comparison of the racism... I didn't mean to do it.

Now I know you and others think the Burger King ad was racist.
 
That 'kid' was 17...and I assure you a 17 y/o male is mentally and physically capable of everything a 18 y/o "adult" male is.

Bottom line is, if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman the kid brought skittles to a gun fight.....dumbass.

If Zimmerman wasn't attacked...he needs to be prosecuted.

The only issue is what the evidence supports...and can the state build a case based on that evidence. Anything short of that standard is mob rule, dark ages, bullshit.

A minor is still a minor. 17 or not he was a kid.

My opinion, Zimmerman is a loose cannon and probably deserves jail time for his actions. Self defense doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned. Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he decided to ignore advice from the 911 dispatcher, continue to follow the kid, then exit his vehicle and cause what turned out to be a deadly physical confrontation with an unarmed teen aged kid.

This is the issue, not the race of Zimmerman or Trayvon.
 
It wasn't a comparison of the severity of racism, it was simply an example of what assholes like you will call racism.

Now, You've decided that both Zimmer and Burger King are racists, I apologize for making a comparison of the racism... I didn't mean to do it.

Now I know you and others think the Burger King ad was racist.

No, moron. I think you're an idiot for comparing a shooting with a commercial. It doesn't matter if either were racially motivated.
 
A minor is still a minor. 17 or not he was a kid.

My opinion, Zimmerman is a loose cannon and probably deserves jail time for his actions. Self defense doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned. Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he decided to ignore advice from the 911 dispatcher, continue to follow the kid, then exit his vehicle and cause what turned out to be a deadly physical confrontation with an unarmed teen aged kid.

This is the issue, not the race of Zimmerman or Trayvon.

our opinion is

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A minor is still a minor. 17 or not he was a kid.

My opinion, Zimmerman is a loose cannon and probably deserves jail time for his actions. Self defense doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned. Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he decided to ignore advice from the 911 dispatcher, continue to follow the kid, then exit his vehicle and cause what turned out to be a deadly physical confrontation with an unarmed teen aged kid.

This is the issue, not the race of Zimmerman or Trayvon.

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No, moron. I think you're an idiot for comparing a shooting with a commercial. It doesn't matter if either were racially motivated.

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Heh heh heh. With the primo level of pure derp squawk blossoming like herpes in this shitty thread, this .gif is never gonna get old! :D
 
A minor is still a minor. 17 or not he was a kid.

So under that theory 17 year old's can not be prosecuted as an adult under any circumstance because 17 = child right? and in a few months when he turns 18 he will suddenly be endowed with all that is maturity and adult decision making power right? Bullshit...

17 can still assault, commit crime, and do all the illegal things an 18 y/o can do. 17 dose not absolve an individual of responsibility for their actions.

If he did indeed assault Zimmerman...he got what he deserved.



My opinion, Zimmerman is a loose cannon and probably deserves jail time for his actions. Self defense doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned.

Irrelevant emotional bullshit.

Zimmerman was in ZERO danger until he decided to ignore advice from the 911 dispatcher, continue to follow the kid, then exit his vehicle

True...but did he have a legal right to get out and ask the stranger what he was up to?

Yes.

Did he violate any laws in doing so?

No.

and cause what turned out to be a deadly physical confrontation with an unarmed teen aged kid.

There is the real meat. The whole bit in question as far as T vs. Z investigation goes.

Did he actually cause the confrontation?

Was he simply asking a stranger what he was doing bush whacking through his neighborhood in the middle of the night when the a hot headed teenager decided he was gonna punk out a neighborhood watchman?

or was he just out looking for an excuse to gun someone down.

This is the issue, not the race of Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Race is not the issue I agree. But neither is the case of the Zimmerman/Trayvon incident. The case is is a pretty clear cut investigation. Either there is evidence to support self defense or the evidence supports an unlawful killing. Either way the man is innocent until PROVEN guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law yes?

The issue is will public officials follow the procedures to standard the way they know they are supposed to, using evidence to build a case against and prosecute a killer or will they cave into emotional public outcry for a lynching?
 
No, moron. I think you're an idiot for comparing a shooting with a commercial. It doesn't matter if either were racially motivated.

Not a comparrison, UD, only a post to demonstrate that folks like you believe that Burger King was racist in airing their commercial.

We now know that any thread/post that mentions "chicken or watermelon" is automatically racist.

Think of what they would have done with Frank Perdue for advertising his chickens a decade or two ago.
 
Not a comparrison, UD, only a post to demonstrate that folks like you believe that Burger King was racist in airing their commercial.

We now know that any thread/post that mentions "chicken or watermelon" is automatically racist.

Think of what they would have done with Frank Perdue for advertising his chickens a decade or two ago.

We know no such thing.
 
Not a comparrison, UD, only a post to demonstrate that folks like you believe that Burger King was racist in airing their commercial.

We now know that any thread/post that mentions "chicken or watermelon" is automatically racist.

Think of what they would have done with Frank Perdue for advertising his chickens a decade or two ago.

You should have just stopped before making yourself look like even more of a moron.

You tried to compare a fucking commercial about chicken I had never even heard of to the death of a young man. Then tried to tie the whole deal up as if it's all "racist" and "what folks like me" believe.

It's pretty fucking obvious that you not only don't know what I believe, but that you don't even know what YOU believe until someone tells you, moron.
 
I promise I'll get to your longer point if not later tonight then some time in the morning. However I'd like to address this point specifically right now before my vodka kicks in.

Demanding isn't really an option beyond a certain point. Let me point out the two biggest problems with this plan. If you can't read how can you confirm your kid is reading when they tell you that they are? I mean if I can claim that 's't'o'p' spells moon who the fuck are you to challenge me? Worse kids who are well read usually have well read parents who read to them as a child and taught them to read. My point about uneducated parents wasn't that they don't value education. My point is that they are useless in helping their child gain one. In the same way that parents who don't invest in the stock market are going to lack the knowledge to teach their children how to do so for their retirement. Expecting the children to get smarter on their own is asking a lot.

At the same time what would you ask your kid's teacher to make sure they are "meeting demands"? Is a passing grade okay. How bout B's. Do they need to be honor roll? Top of the class? What criteria are we talking about? Some like "he's passing his classes and will graduate don't mean much of anything if you're trying to break out of poverty and others like is he the top of his class well are so unrealistic that I refer you back to my "there's ice on everest. However if you're going to tell me that the only way I can keep my foot from rotting is to hike up there and get some that since you have a freezer you're not teaching me personal responibility. You're being an ass." reference. The top of the class especially if you're talking about number 1 is a fairly unatainable goal today. In my graduating class it didn't come down to grades. It didn't even come down to extra ciriculars. It came down to attendence. My valedictorian won because his five rivals all had an absense during their four years of high school. Turns out breaking your leg snowboarding is the difference between being rewarded for your hard work and being an also ran. Hell even when you count honor roll we only had nine top honors. Which sounds like a lot. Until you find out that due to how many attend my High School 9 Honor roll students mean you have to be in the top .9. When you've gotten so elite that being in the 1% isn't enough you need to fix something.

Sean you confirm your kid is reading by asking the teacher "how well and on what grade level is my child reading". You question the teacher with specific open questions. You hold your child to a high standard and you insist that they reach to attain it. You insist that they stay inside and study and not hit the streets, you insist that they get a good nights sleep and not stay out until the wee hours of the morning. You insist that they treat people with respect and have a moral fiber that can not be bent by the temptations of the street i.e. crime. In other words, wether you can read or not, you are involved in your childs life. You say that kids can not get a good education in inner city schools because they lack the programs that richer school systems have, then you turn around and say that it does not matter what schools offer if the parent is not capable of helping the child. I say that is crap, it might make it easier but it is not the determining factor.

In reaching for the top you better yourself. It does not mean that you attain it but you compete for it. Being a valedictorian is a nice honor but it means nothing in the scheme of life. There are plenty of people that are not valedictorians that get a scholarship, go to college, and have successful carreers.

Rightfield said it best. There are immigrants that come here and do not speak a word of english, they make a place for themselves and insist that their children strive for excellence in the classroom and life. These immigrants can not speak english and therefore can not help their children read, but it does not stop their children from succeeding in the classroom. The example of the immigrants shows that it goes back to what I have said, for the most part it is cultural and the culture has to change if they are to gain success. From the things you have said you are saying that it is impossible for Black and inner city kids to excell, I am saying that there is no reason that they can not excell. They have to change the culture, insist on reaching for excellence, make the most of the resources that are available to them, look inward and stop blaming others for their lack of success, and stop saying it is too hard.
 
In my opinion you're an idiot to think that being 17 years old alone exempts you from deadly force if you're engaged in committing great bodily harm on another person. There are 15 years olds that get tried as adults all over the time in the country.:rolleyes:

Way to completely miss the point dumbass. I didn't say that at all.

There are several KNOWN facts in this case.

Zimmerman was following Trayvon.

The 911 dispatcher told him "we don't need you to do that".

He continued to follow the boy anyway.

He exited his vehicle (Unless it's your contention that the boy dragged a man twice his size from a vehicle)

A physical confrontation that could have been avoided had Zimmerman simply called in the "suspicious kid' as a neighborhood WATCH is supposed to do resulted in a dead unarmed young man.

Please feel free to point out any known facts I have left out.
 
You should have just stopped before making yourself look like even more of a moron.

You tried to compare a fucking commercial about chicken I had never even heard of to the death of a young man. Then tried to tie the whole deal up as if it's all "racist" and "what folks like me" believe.

It's pretty fucking obvious that you not only don't know what I believe, but that you don't even know what YOU believe until someone tells you, moron.

Forget it UD, you don't have the intellect to understand what I was getting at.

See, and read about the chicken ad.

You may get a connection..... "race"
 
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