241 Killed in Texas

[gotsnowgotslush]

Rick Perry is very proud of killing killers. How many of Rick's appointees killed innocent men, when they could have saved them?

Mar 08 2012 Rick Perry adds another execution to his credit- 241st

Keith Thurmond declared, "I didn't kill my wife. ... I swear to God I didn't kill her."

Thurmond's attorneys argued that lawyers representing him in earlier appeals were "grossly deficient" and that his
execution should have been postponed until justices decide on a similar case in Arizona.

Williamson County Grand Jury Indicts Mark Norwood
February 1, 2012

Christine Morton's husband, Michael Morton, was wrongfully convicted of her murder in 1987 and served 25 years
of a life sentence in prison. DNA testing confirmed last year that Christine Morton's blood was mixed with
Norwood's hair on a blue bandana found about 100 yards from their North Austin home, where she was killed.
Further DNA tests linked Norwood to the 1988 murder of Debra Masters Baker in Austin.

Williamson County District Attorney Ken Anderson became a state judge.

Ken Anderson violated the law, and Anderson is now the subject of a special criminal inquiry. Ken Anderson doesn't
have to worry about is being sued for damages by Michael Morton because the Supreme Court has ruled that
prosecutors have "absolute immunity" from civil lawsuits for their legal work.

Ken Anderson, now a state judge, and Mike Davis, deliberately sandbagged Morton by unlawfully withholding evidence.
County District Attorney Ken Anderson violated a court order, withheld exculpatory evidence, and violated other laws of the State of Texas.

Michael Morton received nearly $2 million under a Texas law that provides compensation for people who are wrongfully convicted.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_1...morton/?pageNum=3&tag=contentMain;contentBody

Would Judge Ken Anderson or Rick Perry have cared, if Michael Morton was executed for committing a murder?

 

[JohnnySavage]

There are those here (the GB, I've never been to Texas) who consider the execution of an innocent person a mere sacrifice made for the greater good. As long as we get most of the bad guys, killing a few innocent ones is within the margin of error.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

 

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[Freija]

There are those here (the GB, I've never been to Texas) who consider the execution of an innocent person a mere sacrifice made for the greater good. As long as we get most of the bad guys, killing a few innocent ones is within the margin of error.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

I wonder how many of those "here" would be happy to make that sacrifice for the greater good, by being wrongly convicted and executed themselves for a crime they had not committed? Not many, would be my guess.

 

[JohnnySavage]

The short story "The Lottery" supports this.

You should see me tomatos already!

Are those Kraft Brand tomatos?

 

[JohnnySavage]

I wonder how many of those "here" would be happy to make that sacrifice for the greater good, by being wrongly convicted and executed themselves for a crime they had not committed? Not many, would be my guess.

I don't actually know anyone here, in the real world. They may actually have as big a nut sack in real life, as they pretend to have here. I don't know. I doubt it, but I don't know. Ideology and pride are funny things.

 

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[eyer]

There are those here (the GB, I've never been to Texas) who consider the execution of an innocent person a mere sacrifice made for the greater good. As long as we get most of the bad guys, killing a few innocent ones is within the margin of error.

And your disingenuous, hyperbole panties are showing again...

 

[JohnnySavage]

And your disingenuous, hyperbole panties are showing again...

Zip it, Mootch.

 

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[JohnnySavage]

Cat fight!

He's a smarter version of Mike Yates, and not an act. How can you not love that?

 

[cjh]

And your disingenuous, hyperbole panties are showing again...

Vetteman says that, I believe.

The Texas AG argued to SCOTUS that as the trial was fair, actual innocence is irrelevant.

 

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[BoyNextDoor]

There is nothing wrong with having a death penalty. In cases like this it is immoral not to kill the scumbags.

But it does need to be very open and shut as it is with the Petit Family murders.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

I understand that the law would do all in it's power to catch, try and convict a killer.

What puzzles me, is why these men hid evidence and testimony, that would free an innocent man.

They wanted a murder conviction so badly, that they wanted nothing, even the truth- to threaten that conviction?

“For more than three years, the local prosecutor has fought DNA and fingerprint testing that
could prove Michael Morton’s innocence and finally solve both of these crimes.”
-misconduct and possibly criminal behavior by Attorney Ken Anderson
-A forensic analyst from the Texas Department of Public Safety whose findings were later discredited.
-A serologist's testimony discredited
-the prosecution’s theory of the crime was discredited
-Travis County medical examiner Dr. Bayardo was dicredited
(who, in subsequent years, has also been shown to have made major errors in numerous autopsies he conducted)
-County District Attorney John Bradley, chairman of the Texas Forensic Science Commission,
had successfully fought the new DNA testing of the evidence for five years.

-testing done, was discredited
-New testing proves incarcerated man was innocent

DA responds to allegations against APD DNA lab
July 8, 2010
Cecily Hamilton, who resigned from the lab in May of this year, alleges improper training, cheating
on exams by scientists and an array of human resource issues.

The Texas Forensic Science Commission, headed up by Williamson County DA John Bradley, has also been alerted.

Two thousand cases may be impacted. Those include robberies, sex assaults and
murders. Some criminals are currently serving time for convictions.

( Houston, home of the state's most notorious crime lab scandals)
August 05, 2004
"The police crime laboratory in Houston, already reeling from a scandal that has
led to retesting of evidence in 360 cases, now faces a much larger crisis that could involve
many thousands of cases over 25 years."

7 years after scandal, backlog still plagues HPD crime lab
October 2, 2009
-not enough money budgeted ( The money went to more important things, like Rick Perry's pals.)
-unqualified criminalists whose poor techniques destroyed evidence during testing.
-not enough staff to do tests
-tests conducted in buildings that are not clean or safe
-DNA labs in the same buildings as police investigators (“incestuous” relationships)
-labs evidence testing results matched to fit criminal case, not science?
(If you want the contract to continue, you have to please the prosecutors?) $$$$$$$$$

Was anyone involved in this case, doing their job properly? It is no wonder that Attorney Ken Anderson and
Attorney Bradley stonewalled. There may be many unpleasant things crawling out from under the cover-up.

If it was not for the Innocence Project, Michael Morton would spend all his living days, suffering and rotting away in prison.

Lucky for Michael Morton, he had people who cared about what happened to him.

2005
Why did they need Texas HB 1068, law to protect the citizens of Texas from unscrupulous behavior by Medical Examiners and Crime Labs?

 

[JuanVato]

I live in Texas and...

...if you are wrongfully convicted, then you should get a payday.

Rick Perry is a tool.
He was been doing the taxpayers of Texas "prison style" for years now.

 

[chillywilly2]

The system cannot be perfect, we are dealing with government and human beings. How many tens of thousands were sacrificed on the nation's highways last year in order to maintain the mobility of the many? How many other lives are sacrificed to the government's power of "random eminent forfeiture" in the pursuit of "the public good?"

What did they say back in the 60's


Blind faith in your leaders






will get you killed

 

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[richard_daily]

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

If only these same people were consistent.

 

[chillywilly2]

Blind faith in Democrats got 58,000 killed as I recall.

leaders is leaders, and dead is dead

 

[Pakiville]

Blind faith in Democrats got 58,000 killed as I recall.

blaming the deaths on dems bro? pretty weak case bro! lol

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

Keith Thurmond was absolutely guilty. His own son witnessed the murders. His own brother witnessed the murders. He had prior history of abusing women in prior relationships.

I generally am against the death penalty for fear of killing the innocent but in this case it was very clear he was guilty.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

So, the message is-

Don't be poor!- be able to afford an army of lawyers
and a body guard for your wife and a body guard for your children,
because we can't waste tax payer money, on protecting you
from a corrupt, criminal and incompetent justice system?

 

[chillywilly2]

Keith Thurmond was absolutely guilty. His own son witnessed the murders. His own brother witnessed the murders. He had prior history of abusing women in prior relationships.

I generally am against the death penalty for fear of killing the innocent but in this case it was very clear he was guilty.

So how do you write it into law...death penalty only when we are really really really really sure