What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[mercury14]

Don't even try to have a rational discussion.

Just bookmark this for when they go batshit crazy under the Romney administration over how the numbers are LIES!



It was the very same thing under Bush.

I'd love a rational discussion. Unfortunately all he has for evidence is craptastic partisan propaganda and other people's opinions. That's not rational bro.

But I'm open to changing my mind on this. Just show me some objective information that shows the BLS is a wing of the Democratic Party and I'll change my mind.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I cannot, and will not attempt to have a grownup conversation with a person who lies so seamlessly...

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=800325

You're Lucy telling Charlie Brown, okay, this time I'll actually hold the ball...

All your squealing about partisanship on the part of others only serves to highlight your own partisanship on the topic.

Lord knows, I spent enough time bashing Bush on his drunken spending.

I bitched about Bush for six years, and through all that time the Republicans on this board never trashed me the way the Democrats do now that "their guy" is "in charge."

They were angry when Bush was President, but they seem even more angry now that Obama is President.

Maybe it's just disappointment.

 

[koalabear]

THREE
CONTRACTORS for the government



Three contractors are
bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another
is from Tennessee , and the third is from Montana . All three go with a White
House official to examine the fence.

The Montana contractor takes out a
tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil.
"Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900. That's $400 for
materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee
contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job
for $700. That's $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for
me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to
the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official,
incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys. How did you
come up with such a high figure?" The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000
for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."
"Done!" replies the government official.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Is there a posting limit to the same joke?



Isn't a dozen enough?

 

[koalabear]

Is there a posting limit to the same joke?



Isn't a dozen enough?

No.

THREE
CONTRACTORS for the government



Three contractors are
bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another
is from Tennessee , and the third is from Montana . All three go with a White
House official to examine the fence.

The Montana contractor takes out a
tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil.
"Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900. That's $400 for
materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee
contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job
for $700. That's $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for
me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to
the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official,
incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys. How did you
come up with such a high figure?" The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000
for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."
"Done!" replies the government official.

 

[mercury14]

I cannot, and will not attempt to have a grownup conversation with a person who lies so seamlessly...

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=800325

You're Lucy telling Charlie Brown, okay, this time I'll actually hold the ball...

All your squealing about partisanship on the part of others only serves to highlight your own partisanship on the topic.

Lord knows, I spent enough time bashing Bush on his drunken spending.

Ad hominem bullshit, Mr. Logic Cop.

Oh no, I told Eyer I'm an Australian philosophy student to fuck with him when he took me off iggy for ten minutes! Therefore you no longer have to be accountable for your own hypocrisy!

That's a neat trick.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

One problem there Mr. Explanation...

You kept up the ruse for Candicame with this reply:

Her specialty is the area where secular and religious ethics collide. It's fascinating stuff and she's super passionate about her work. She was a bit hard to understand at times being Italian and speaking with an aglo/aussie twang. It was charming at first but as the weeks dragged on it just became hard to hear.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No.

THREE
CONTRACTORS for the government



Three contractors are
bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another
is from Tennessee , and the third is from Montana . All three go with a White
House official to examine the fence.

The Montana contractor takes out a
tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil.
"Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900. That's $400 for
materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee
contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job
for $700. That's $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for
me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to
the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official,
incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys. How did you
come up with such a high figure?" The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000
for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."
"Done!" replies the government official.

*chuckle*

 

[mercury14]

One problem there Mr. Explanation...

You kept up the ruse for Candicame with this reply:

More ad hominem bullshit? Are you trying to meet your logic fail quota for the whole week you'll be gone?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

By all appearances you were not going to quit the lie until KRC called you on it.




Is that what "adults" do?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In 2007, when Congress passed legislation that would gradually ban old school incandescent light bulbs, they added a carrot to the pile of sticks: A $10 million dollar prize to encourage the development of a cheap, green, domestic light bulb to replace the dearly departed Edison model.

Five years later, that bulb is coming to a hardware store near you. It will cost you 50 bucks. It also fails to meet many of the original prize specifications. The winner, Dutch electronics company Philips, was the one and only entrant, suggesting that the prize failed to stimulate widespread additional private spending on R&D. The portion of the LED bulb made in America is less than initially envisioned. And the guidelines for pricing were utterly ignored: The goal was $22 price tag in the first year, falling rapidly to $8 by year three.

Meanwhile, a lot has happened in those five years. Americans are (perhaps grudgingly) adopting new light bulb technologies; experimenting with CFLs, halogens, and LEDs. The florescence of options was partially due to the fact that the relevant technologies reached a natural tipping point, partially due to the increasing cost of energy, and partially a response to the impending ban. (The end of the 100-watt incandescent was targeted for this year, with lesser wattages slated to fall victim on subsequent New Year’s Days.) In other words, in the time that elapsed between conception and delivery the prize has become perfectly irrelevant.

The “L Prize” fiasco is a reminder that while prizes can be a wildly successful way to stimulate interest and investment in a particular problem—think of the X Prize—the way they are structured matters. A lot.

In this case, the prize was a first-past-the-post arrangement. So electronics giant Philips, which also makes a Chinese-manufactured version of the same product for half the cost, quickly fiddled with the specs and figured out a way to make some of the chips in San Jose—all jobs that will go to American citizens, no doubt—and do the assembly in Wisconsin. Two other companies had announced their intention to join the fray, General Electric and Lighting Science Group, when the Department of Energy abruptly declared a winner.

...

While a $10 million check to sell a slight variation on a product you were developing anyway seems like a pretty sweet deal, it’s actually chump change compared to the real prize: preferential treatment by federal buyers and others major players who are beholden to the feds, such as the many utility companies offering subsidies to customers who purchase the bulbs. The knowledge of this pot of gold at the end of the rainbow further reduced Philips' incentive to keep prices low.

But wait: Why would a company that sells power want to subsidize products that help people consume less of what they’re selling? Ordinary economics no longer applies once you go through the looking glass into much of the heavily regulated utility sector. In California, for example, profits and consumption have been “decoupled”: Prices are based solely on what the state deems to be a fair rate of return. Which means that more demand for energy—accompanied by the possibility that new power plants must be built—is just an expensive pain in someone’s butt, not an opportunity to make more money.

Add in a nudge from your industry’s primary federal regulator, and voila!: Power companies are dropping boatloads of Hamiltons on their customers. In fact, that $10 figure is likely to increase as the Department of Energy pressures utilities to take a bigger bite out of the $50 monster they helped create.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/03/09/feds-pay-10-million-for-50-light-bulb

2007 - The New Democrat Congress making up for years and years and years of Republicans hating Science and the Environment.

Fuck the economy! Collateral damage.

We'll get used to the high price of light, adjust to it and buy more candles...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous:

http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2012/03/09/why-is-jon-corzine-still-at-liberty/?singlepage=true

Corzine has friends in high places; cronies like Joe Biden...

 

[mercury14]

By all appearances you were not going to quit the lie until KRC called you on it.




Is that what "adults" do?

Even more ad hominem bullshit? Your dung pile is teetering at four stories high at this point. You're as irrational as Jen.

And yes KRC screwed it up. The next time Eyer removes me from iggy I'll probably provoke him again. It's fun I can't resist.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Candicame was just collateral damage?

You responded specifically to his post; he's not Eyer...



But we know for certain why the temptation to put you on ignore.

 

[mercury14]

Candicame was just collateral damage?

You responded specifically to his post; he's not Eyer...



But we know for certain why the temptation to put you on ignore.

Candi was convenient because he doesn't know me and took the Aussie thing at face value. Unfortunately Eyer put me back on ignore and KFC showed up. I still managed to wreck his thread though.

Eyer is not a good human being. Regardless as to the fact that you and I disagree on 106% of issues I do not think you're a bad person. Eyer is a bad person and I enjoy steering his threads off their tracks..

 

[koalabear]

No.

THREE
CONTRACTORS for the government



Three contractors are
bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another
is from Tennessee , and the third is from Montana . All three go with a White
House official to examine the fence.

The Montana contractor takes out a
tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil.
"Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900. That's $400 for
materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee
contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job
for $700. That's $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for
me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to
the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official,
incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys. How did you
come up with such a high figure?" The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000
for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence."
"Done!" replies the government official.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Ad hominem bullshit, Mr. Logic Cop.

Oh no, I told Eyer I'm an Australian philosophy student to fuck with him when he took me off iggy for ten minutes! Therefore you no longer have to be accountable for your own hypocrisy!

That's a neat trick.

In fairness to AJ, he has always been consistent about having two sets of standards, one that he applies to others and one he reserves solely for himself, aka "rules for thee, but not for me!"

 

[richard_daily]

Yeah, the government has to pay a person to use a toilet that don't flush or buy a car that isn't worth a shit.

Who paid for your hotwheels cars?

 

[Beco]

Anyone watch Game Change, on HBO last night? I'm sure Rob did, its about Sarah Palin and McCain, during their run for office in 2008.....good acting

 

[RobDownSouth]

Anyone watch Game Change, on HBO last night? I'm sure Rob did, its about Sarah Palin and McCain, during their run for office in 2008.....good acting

I don't have HBO. I did, however, read the "Game Change" book. Two takeaways: Sarah Palin was much, much more ignorant than her worst detractors claimed, and Hillary Clinton was a mean-spirited potty-mouthed thin skinned shrew.

 

[Beco]

I don't have HBO. I did, however, read the "Game Change" book. Two takeaways: Sarah Palin was much, much more ignorant than her worst detractors claimed, and Hillary Clinton was a mean-spirited potty-mouthed thin skinned shrew.

I'll probably pick up that book now.....Hillary wasnt in the movie and I didnt like the way they painted John Mccain. But the actress playing Sarah P was dead on...one line in the movie was classic " in a few months, nobody will remember Sarah Palin"....

 

[busybody..]

a report says that NIGGA regs cost the US $45 BILLION PER YEAR


NIGGER SHITTER SAVAGE, he who does not care, still doesnt care

WE ALL MUST SUPPORT NIGGA

 

[unregistered]

 

[busybody..]

CBO

LIES

They are RACIST

 

[busybody..]

a report says that NIGGA regs cost the US $45 BILLION PER YEAR


NIGGER SHITTER SAVAGE, he who does not care, still doesnt care

WE ALL MUST SUPPORT NIGGA

http://moonbattery.com/cost-of-obama-regulations.gif