Damn Disgrace

[mercury14]

Where are you Vette? Perg is destroying you. Where's your mandatory denial of facts?

 

[Disgustipated]

Where are you Vette? Perg is destroying you. Where's your mandatory denial of facts?

Nap then the Early Bird Special.

 

[Peregrinator]

Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2012 increases the overall Veterans Affairs budget by more than 10 percent. The numbers are big: from $53 billion in FY 2010 to almost $59 billion in FY 2012.

It provides new benefits for veterans’ caregivers, including health care and mental health services, and invests nearly $1 billion in VA services for homeless veterans and those at risk of becoming homeless.

The White House pointed us to several examples of how VA services have been beefed up, summed up in a comment Obama made in 2009:

"We dramatically increased funding for veterans' health care: more care for women's veterans, for our wounded warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injuries," Obama said at a 2009 signing of a bill that funds veterans’ medical care a year in advance.

Separately, PolitiFact has given Obama seven Promise Kept ratings on pledges he made to improve services to veterans, compared with zero Promise Brokens.


<snip>


Santorum said that Obama has pledged to cut veterans’ benefits.

That is not the case with the VA budget, which Obama wants to increase.

But there are some proposals for programs in the Defense Department budget that might shift more expenses to veterans. On balance, we rate Santorum's claim Half True.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...antorum-says-obama-wants-cut-veterans-benefi/

 

[Peregrinator]

Democrats ramped up their campaign against a Republican Party takeover of Congress this week with charges that the Republicans want to eliminate some veterans benefits passed in the Democratic-controlled legislature. GOP leaders vowed in their "Pledge to America" that, if they take power, they will cut veterans' benefits because they are not "paid for."


http://peoplesworld.org/republicans-pledge-to-slash-veterans-benefits/

 

[bronzeage]

Where are you Vette? Perg is destroying you. Where's your mandatory denial of facts?

He's outside, tending to a gored ox.

 

[Peregrinator]

Bachmann plan would cut veterans benefits

By Rick Maze - Staff writer

Posted : Friday Jan 28, 2011 5:30:31 EST

Tea party favorite Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has unveiled a plan for cutting $400 billion in federal spending that includes freezing Veterans Affairs Department health care spending and cutting veterans’ disability benefits.

Her proposed VA budget cuts would account for $4.5 billion of the savings included in the plan, posted on her official House of Representatives website.

Paul Sullivan, executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, said cutting veterans’ health care spending is an ill-advised move at a time when the number of veterans continues to grow as troops return from Iraq and Afghanistan. Sullivan said he finds it difficult to see how VA could freeze health care costs without hurting veterans.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2011/01/military-michele-bachmann-veterans-budget-cuts-012811w/

 

[garbage can]

Obama’s proposed budget for fiscal year 2012 increases the overall Veterans Affairs budget by more than 10 percent. The numbers are big: from $53 billion in FY 2010 to almost $59 billion in FY 2012.

Stop right there.

You realize that Obama knows his budget is not going anywhere.

Use your head.

 

[mercury14]

Stop right there.

You realize that Obama knows his budget is not going anywhere.

Use your head.

So? Obama's policy is to increase VA resources and we're talking policy.

Do you also not give Republicans recognition for trying to privatize social security under Bush since it went nowhere?

 

[Peregrinator]

Stop right there.

You realize that Obama knows his budget is not going anywhere.

Use your head.

Would you like to comment on my original point, which was that there has been very little comment from the right on Literotica regarding Republicans cutting veterans' benefits?

 

[Peregrinator]

Republican Paul Ryan and the House of Representatives are looking to end VA healthcare for over 1.3 million veterans who are Priority 7 & 8. These veterans are the least disabled veterans using the system, usually with disability ratings of 0 percent or no service-connected disability. According to the Congressional Budget Office “Option 35,” the cuts would leave 130,000 veterans with no healthcare alternative. This means veterans with conditions not recognized by the VA, like certain diseases from Agent Orange exposure, would have to pay for healthcare out of pocket if they had not other service connected disability.

http://www.disabledveterans.org/2011/04/16/republicans-seek-to-cut-1-3-million-veterans/

 

[wideeyedone]

PTSD has degrees and different manifestations in different people. The people I know with PTSD, veterans or otherwise aren't interested in broadcasting it. They want to be free from it and get back to a regular existence. Many of the symptoms aren't openly visible to someone who doesn't know them intimately. Insomnia, night terrors, depression, hypervigilance, heightened startle response, anxiety, panic attacks, and even disassociative episodes are all symptoms.

People with PTSD may have one or myriad symptoms. The human mind is masterful at protecting itself and each person reacts to trauma differently. Some are more resilient than others, some are more prone to PTSD because of previous traumatic events or because of head injury or other factors.

PTSD is a real diagnosis. The VA while it may be underfunded is doing some of the best research on PTSD and coming up with innovative therapy techniques that are helping people beyond the military as well.

 

[mercury14]

PTSD has degrees and different manifestations in different people. The people I know with PTSD, veterans or otherwise aren't interested in broadcasting it. They want to be free from it and get back to a regular existence. Many of the symptoms aren't openly visible to someone who doesn't know them intimately. Insomnia, night terrors, depression, hypervigilance, heightened startle response, anxiety, panic attacks, and even disassociative episodes are all symptoms.

People with PTSD may have one or myriad symptoms. The human mind is masterful at protecting itself and each person reacts to trauma differently. Some are more resilient than others, some are more prone to PTSD because of previous traumatic events or because of head injury or other factors.

PTSD is a real diagnosis. The VA while it may be underfunded is doing some of the best research on PTSD and coming up with innovative therapy techniques that are helping people beyond the military as well.

One of my Texas Hold 'em buddies regularly re-experiences his time as a prison guard in Afghanistan. He's a navy avionics guy with no training in security. He a 6'4" and 250 lbs black dude who they thought would be imposing to the prisoners. He's a literal casualty of Bush's neglect and undermanning of the Afghan war.

 

[semen4her]

I thought people volunteered for the army?

Nobody asked him to join.

What the fuck did he think would happen going to war?

Another republican trying to suckle the govt teat.

 

[Comshaw]

I've never met a real vet with PTSD, and plenty of them experienced horrific events...like killing comrades in firefights.

Then you've either lived a life devoid of contact with vets, which makes you a liar on par with LT, or you live with your eyes firmly shut, which makes you as stupidly bias as bb. I believe the former, but I also don't discount the latter. Either way, you have no idea what you're talking about. It's always very entertaining to listen to those who try to sound like they know, when in actuality they're as ignorant as a stump.


Comshaw

 

[koalabear]

Would you like to comment on my original point, which was that there has been very little comment from the right on Literotica regarding Republicans cutting veterans' benefits?

More partisan bullshit from the non-lib, good job merc.

 

[Peregrinator]

More partisan bullshit from the non-lib, good job merc.

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[cjh]

More partisan bullshit from the non-lib, good job merc.

So why don't republican lawmakers like our vets?

 

[koalabear]

Chicka pop pop rattle rattle pash pash PASH pop chicka chicka...

So why don't republican lawmakers like our vets?

You two can't operate off that one malignant brain cell.

 

[cjh]

You two can't operate off that one malignant brain cell.

It's a shame you can't respond to the facts Perg posted.

 

[Peregrinator]

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[koalabear]

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Jobs_and_People/Musicians_and_Singers/Tamborine_bear.gif

Much better merc.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

If we don't have enough money to take care of this Marine, there isn't enough money to pay for Obama's vacations, rounds of golf, or those of anyone else in the non-military government service. Fuck this shit:

Video here:

http://patdollard.com/2012/03/look-...in-campaigns-most-powerful-moment-with-video/

Vette as a Vietnam Era veteran you are certainly aware that Veteran Affairs has always been a national disgrace under every administration. So I don't see why you are just pointing out Obama.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

PTSD has degrees and different manifestations in different people. The people I know with PTSD, veterans or otherwise aren't interested in broadcasting it. They want to be free from it and get back to a regular existence. Many of the symptoms aren't openly visible to someone who doesn't know them intimately. Insomnia, night terrors, depression, hypervigilance, heightened startle response, anxiety, panic attacks, and even disassociative episodes are all symptoms.

People with PTSD may have one or myriad symptoms. The human mind is masterful at protecting itself and each person reacts to trauma differently. Some are more resilient than others, some are more prone to PTSD because of previous traumatic events or because of head injury or other factors.

PTSD is a real diagnosis. The VA while it may be underfunded is doing some of the best research on PTSD and coming up with innovative therapy techniques that are helping people beyond the military as well.

Part of me knows this is true...I have seen it. But the other part of me want's to go all SSG.Slaughter and call them a bunch of malingering shit bag's because I have seen some manipulative Profile Rangers yuck it up on their way out over their "PTSD" diagnosis.

 

[Type_O_Negative]

At the risk of being outted as the board shit-head... I have a bit of a problem with this PTSD. Every single person who served in the war(s) volunteered to do so; and nearly all of them volunteered after the wars started. What did they think they were signing up for? Did they think they'd go over there and hand out candy? It seems to me there probably are some 'real' problems, but it also seems like some of them need to pull up the big boy pants and get over it.

You are an idiot and an asshole.

I thought people volunteered for the army?


Nobody asked him to join.

What the fuck did he think would happen going to war?

Another republican trying to suckle the govt teat.

I bet the two of you are the same exact asshole just under different names.


Nobody can be as stupid as you.

 

[sigh]

It's a shame you can't respond to the facts Perg posted.

It's obvious all those facts must be false because we all know that conservatives love vets and liberals hate them.

Just ask AJ. He'll tell you.