Is Walmart a cross-section of America?

[RightField]

Of course you ignored the actual point of my post, or more likely you simply didnt understand it.

You're right, I didn't read it closely, I'm doing five other things simultaneously. From my quick glance it seemed like you were saying that people who shop at Walmart were fat because they didn't have any alternative than to eat high fat foods, that somehow it wasn't their fault that they were overweight.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

And you also can't understand my post either.

Why are right wing types so fervent about being willfully ignorant? (Rhetorical question)

You said a lot of things in the post I quoted. My take-away was that you do not blame the fat shoppers at Walmart for being fat. You put the blame elsewhere. using your logic, 100% of low income people would be fat, but that is not the case. I wonder why.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Attention fat Walmart shoppers: read this link.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

You're right, I didn't read it closely, I'm doing five other things simultaneously. From my quick glance it seemed like you were saying that people who shop at Walmart were fat because they didn't have any alternative than to eat high fat foods, that somehow it wasn't their fault that they were overweight.

You arent doing five things simultaneously, give me a fucking break

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

You said a lot of things in the post I quoted. My take-away was that you do not blame the fat shoppers at Walmart for being fat. You put the blame elsewhere. using your logic, 100% of low income people would be fat, but that is not the case. I wonder why.

Of course thats the only thing you took away from my post; you are an idiot.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Of course thats the only thing you took away from my post; you are an idiot.

I bet you are a Walmart shopper, and I hit a nerve. Am I right?

 

[Beco]

I think that Walmart is an excellent example of what's happening in America. The Walton family likes to list their wealth separately, but they are the richest family in the world. Doing Walmart type of retail, it's all about everyone else not getting money - be it their suppliers or their employees - and them amassing a fortune.

Then we have consumerism. Do we really need all that "stuff"? How many shoes do you "need"? How many clothes? If you shop at Walmart, you can have much more. Of course, it's made to last 10 washings so you have to keep buying.

There is so much wrong with the Walmart mentality, it's difficult to not become tangential just within the one thought... .

The Walton family took a risk and created a concept, you begrudge them from reaping the rewards of wealth for taking a chance and employing millions of people??? they're not the only "big box" strore, Home Depot kicked lots of mom and pop shops off the map, you hate them???

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I bet you are a Walmart shopper, and I hit a nerve. Am I right?

IT isnt a secret that i live in NYC where there are no Walmarts. If i go to a walmart once a year, it's an abnormal year.

You are an idiot. Sorry that life dealt you a shitty hand, but you at least can try to play it a bit better

 

[KingOrfeo]

Why does Wal-Mart have "greeters," anyway? If I go to a big-box store, I don't want a clerk to greet me at the door, I want to be able to find a clerk on the floor to help me find desired merchandise when I can't seem to find it on my own.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

IT isnt a secret that i live in NYC where there are no Walmarts. If i go to a walmart once a year, it's an abnormal year.

You are an idiot. Sorry that life dealt you a shitty hand, but you at least can try to play it a bit better

Are you an ALT of Richard Daily? he uses that same line (the "you are an idiot" line) on many people here.

I love life, and my life is good too because my life is exactly what I make it to be. I am in control of my life. I blame no one else for any road blocks that I may encounter.

We disagree. that's fine. I did not call you names. But I guess it's not your fault you cannot communicate effectively. You probably blame someone else, just like the fat Walmart shoppers blame someone else too.

 

[Beco]

I used me as an example. I've been that way my whole life (as short as it is). Even when I did not have much money as a college student. GB has seen this food argument before. Complex carbs keep a person's energy up longer than carbs from processed foods. Keep blood sugar levels normal through out the day helps prevent a binge on quick-energy unhealthy foods. eat 5-6 small meals throughout the day vs 3 large meals. Watch portion size. Moderate exercise. All simple stuff.

But the biggest issue I have with your post, and this is really sad, is that you are making excuses for Walmart shoppers for being fat. Oh, it's not their fault, it's the system's fault.

One example of low-cost eating healthy.

It's a lot of reasons but its not that they want to be fat....nobody wants to be overweight and uncomfortable, it just happens and one reason IS the system of food we produce in this country. Proceessed foods, loaded with frutose is making us fat as a country and its not specific to lower income. I see lots of wealthy parents feeding their chubby kids junk.

Also, its educating the poor about what you just posted above....do you think a guy that works two jobs gives a rat's ass about eating 5-6 small meals a day or how to get the proper insulin level??

Get real dude

 

[pornstarwannabe]

It's a lot of reasons but its not that they want to be fat....nobody wants to be overweight and uncomfortable, it just happens and one reason IS the system of food we produce in this country. Proceessed foods, loaded with frutose is making us fat as a country and its not specific to lower income. I see lots of wealthy parents feeding their chubby kids junk.

Also, its educating the poor about what you just posted above....do you think a guy that works two jobs gives a rat's ass about eating 5-6 small meals a day or how to get the proper insulin level??

Get real dude

I am not fat. My immediate family is not fat. Even when I did not have much money, I was not fat. So what are you saying exactly? Is there a different food supply for my family and I?

Oh, I have the answer: I care enough not to be fat. That's the frickin' answer. My point all along. Fat people may not want to be fat, but if they do not care enough to lose weight, then they'll be fat.

So if that guys working 2 jobs does not give a rat's ass, then fine, he'll have only himself to blame if he is fat.

 

[Beco]

I am not fat. My immediate family is not fat. Even when I did not have much money, I was not fat. So what are you saying exactly? Is there a different food supply for my family and I?

Oh, I have the answer: I care enough not to be fat. That's the frickin' answer. My point all along. Fat people may not want to be fat, but if they do not care enough to lose weight, then they'll be fat.

So if that guys working 2 jobs does not give a rat's ass, then fine, he'll have only himself to blame if he is fat.

I think you're lucky, but I doubt its because you're eating healthy. Our food suppy is unhealthy, its mass produced, even farm raised salmon is bad for you.

I think your attitude is wrong, there are a lot of reasons people are overweight, not just because they dont care.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

I think you're lucky, but I doubt its because you're eating healthy. Our food suppy is unhealthy, its mass produced, even farm raised salmon is bad for you.

I think your attitude is wrong, there are a lot of reasons people are overweight, not just because they dont care.

But my point is that I am eating the same "tainted" food supply as the fatties, and I am not fat. It goes way beyond what is healthy or unhealthy w.r.t. the food supply. Maybe farm-raised salmon is not as hearty, etc. Or maybe free range chickens fed with organic feed are more healthy than chickens from a different farm.

But at the end of the day, it really comes down to the number of calories consumed vs calories burned. Mathematically, it's a simple equation. I do take exception that I am "lucky." That statement dismisses out of hand my commitment not to be fat.

While there are many reasons why someone can be overweight, I stand by my statement that they have to care enough to lose weight in order to lose weight (assuming there is no medical condition for their weight).

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

But my point is that I am eating the same "tainted" food supply as the fatties, and I am not fat. It goes way beyond what is healthy or unhealthy w.r.t. the food supply. Maybe farm-raised salmon is not as hearty, etc. Or maybe free range chickens fed with organic feed are more healthy than chickens from a different farm.

But at the end of the day, it really comes down to the number of calories consumed vs calories burned. Mathematically, it's a simple equation. I do take exception that I am "lucky." That statement dismisses out of hand my commitment not to be fat.

While there are many reasons why someone can be overweight, I stand by my statement that they have to care enough to lose weight in order to lose weight (assuming there is no medical condition for their weight).

Yeah right, the example of a carcinigenic food that.is ubiqutious in our food supply is merely a matter of calories in, calories out.

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Yeah right, the example of a carcinigenic food that.is ubiqutious in our food supply is merely a matter of calories in, calories out.

You really are a piece of work (am I am being sarcastic). Forget everything I said in this thread w.r.t. weight loss. Please explain how millions and millions of people have lost weight while eating the same "tainted" food supply that the fatties eat. I'll weight (get it?).

I'll wait.

 

[RightField]

You arent doing five things simultaneously, give me a fucking break

Your pretty AV picture is missing. I always look forward to giving you a fucking break. Your place or mine?

 

[ksmybuttons]

The Walton family took a risk and created a concept, you begrudge them from reaping the rewards of wealth for taking a chance and employing millions of people??? they're not the only "big box" strore, Home Depot kicked lots of mom and pop shops off the map, you hate them???

I don't support Walmart. You do. Are you a stockholder? Wait. It's publicly traded for the benefits of the stockholders, but the stock is mostly owned by Waltons...

Their employees are paid below the poverty level. In many small communities, it's one of the only jobs available in town. While great wealth is amassed by a few individuals, as a taxpayer, I am expected to support their employees. Not my values.

Hate? You are prescribing an emotion to me that I do not have. I don't shop at Home Depot, either. I don't like the way they do business. I don't need to go there to meet my needs. I express my values with my dollars. My choice.

That's all the explanation I need to provide.

 

[RightField]

For those who say WalMart is filled with "poor" shoppers....

I just came from there. I will stipulate that there are a lot of poor people at the store, the place is filled with good bargains and it's like a magnet. I will also agree that there are not "super rich" people there (the ones with $50M that Mr. Savage refers to). However, there are shoppers there from almost every other swath of the population.

As an example, I made a point to remember the 6 cars that were parked between my car and the store. There was Dodge Stratus, then a new (within a couple years) BMW 330, then a couple Buicks one about 5 years old, one about 10 years, then an Acura MDX that was maybe 3 years old and a new Volkswagen EOS convertable. The girl came out while I was loading my trunk, hopped in the VW, put down the top and zipped off. She was very cute.

The garden was full of little plants just begining to pop through the soil of their pots such as daffodils and tulips. They also had bare root roses that were just starting to send up new shoots and there were also lots of new bulbs that includes lily, gladiolas, dahlias and others. The big yellow smiley face was present at WalMart today. I bought a bunch of spring bulbs, but I'll wait until tomorrow to plant them when it will be a little dryer.

I stopped and talked the Garden Manager for a short while today also. He moved here from a French colony overseas and has been working there for several years. He makes special orders for me from time to time and I'm always appreciative.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The old gal across the street from me has worked at WALMART for plenty of years. Trust me, she's too damn dum to do any other kind of work, and she has her niche shelving canned tomatoes over nite. So she's semi-useful, and puts out for all the boys who like seasoned girls (she was hot 30 years ago).

 

[Angellica1612]

You have a very narrow view of the world, pornstar and kiss-my-buttons. Obviously, making the effort to exercise and eat healthy makes people thinner and healthier. But as you said, you were not fat when you were 'poor'...ever heard of genetics? Being fat is partially genetic...some people could eat all day and not get fat.

As to Walmart - I work 6 days a week, and still barely get by. I have neither the time nor the money to go to several other stores when I can get it all at Walmart in one trip for less money. I shop at Walmart because I'd rather pay $20 for a toaster, then get the same toaster at Target for $30 or at Macy's for $60. When I'm shopping for food, I can buy a week's worth of frozen dinners for the cost of the fresh produce it would take to make a large salad that would feed me twice. And Walmart may not pay high wages, but they employ millions of people. And they are no different than any other business. Look at the fat cats on Wal-Street...they make millions of dollars a year, and still work hard to find any loophole they can in tax law to pay less taxes, even though those taxes pay for services we all use, like decent roads to drive their Mercedes on. Altruism in business is gone, and has been for many years.

Those working 2 jobs are short on time and energy for things like preparing fresh foods and exercising. There is an emotional component to this. It is very soul draining to be constantly worrying about making the rent and being able to clothe and feed your family. There is no time for comparing labels, and yes, it's hard to care very much when you can provide a weeks worth of groceries for your family at Walmart while still making the rent.

I've been in stores, not just Walmart, with thin, rude people whose children are behaving badly. They are too busy looking down their noses at others to notice how obnoxious they and their children are.

The tone of your posts is very condescending and disparaging. You're as bad as someone who discounts an entire race of people because of their skin color, or because of physical or emotional conditions that make them different. You are cutting yourself off from a lot of wonderful people, which is your loss, not theirs.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

You really are a piece of work (am I am being sarcastic). Forget everything I said in this thread w.r.t. weight loss. Please explain how millions and millions of people have lost weight while eating the same "tainted" food supply that the fatties eat. I'll weight (get it?).

I'll wait.

I am not a weight loss expert as I have never been fat. But I do know that people who lose weight typically completely overhaul their diet. Most who try though, in fact don't overhaul their diet, and they fail. Most people fail at losing weight.

Now let's get back to what I said about soy protein isolate. What do you have to say about it?

 

[pornstarwannabe]

You have a very narrow view of the world, pornstar. Obviously, making the effort to exercise and eat healthy makes people thinner and healthier. But as you said, you were not fat when you were 'poor'...ever heard of genetics? Being fat is partially genetic...some people could eat all day and not get fat.

As to Walmart - I work 6 days a week, and still barely get by. I have neither the time nor the money to go to several other stores when I can get it all at Walmart in one trip for less money. I shop at Walmart because I'd rather pay $20 for a toaster, then get the same toaster at Target for $30 or at Macy's for $60. When I'm shopping for food, I can buy a week's worth of frozen dinners for the cost of the fresh produce it would take to make a large salad that would feed me twice. And Walmart may not pay high wages, but they employ millions of people. And they are no different than any other business. Look at the fat cats on Wal-Street...they make millions of dollars a year, and still work hard to find any loophole they can in tax law to pay less taxes, even though those taxes pay for services we all use, like decent roads to drive their Mercedes on. Altruism in business is gone, and has been for many years.

Those working 2 jobs are short on time and energy for things like preparing fresh foods and exercising. There is an emotional component to this. It is very soul draining to be constantly worrying about making the rent and being able to clothe and feed your family. There is no time for comparing labels, and yes, it's hard to care very much when you can provide a weeks worth of groceries for your family at Walmart while still making the rent.

I've been in stores, not just Walmart, with thin, rude people whose children are behaving badly. They are too busy looking down their noses at others to notice how obnoxious they and their children are.

The tone of your posts is very condescending and disparaging. You're as bad as someone who discounts an entire race of people because of their skin color, or because of physical or emotional conditions that make them different. You are cutting yourself off from a lot of wonderful people, which is your loss, not theirs.

I appreciate your comments. But really, frozen meals? You have kids? If not, what will do feed than when you do?

I buy lots of stuff on Amazon. @$79/year for 2-day shipping, it gives Walmart a run for its money.

Not just the low income shop at Walmart. the point of my post is all in the OP. Thread diverged a bit, but that only happened when some people tried not t blame the fatties for being fat.

And finally, did you not know that it is okay to be biased against the fatties? When Gov. Christie was "thinking" about running, the Left jump all over his weight, and made fun of him for being fat. While I am not biased, I have made observations. And I can tell you that fat people are fat because they do not care enough to lose weight.

 

[RightField]

The old gal across the street from me has worked at WALMART for plenty of years. Trust me, she's too damn dum to do any other kind of work, and she has her niche shelving canned tomatoes over nite. So she's semi-useful, and puts out for all the boys who like seasoned girls (she was hot 30 years ago).

Does she have a visible tattoo? What does it say?

 

[pornstarwannabe]

Does she have a visible tattoo? What does it say?

"Born to Ride"