Republican piss me off

[Liar]

I can't spell "ballot" in spite of three attempts. Anywaaaay...

There is a difference between who the voters are and who is running. McCain won because he was moderate and was elected by Republican "moderates". You are correct that most of the Republican candidates are Right Wing wackos but it is the voters who are the true Republican party, not the candidates and McCain won because most Republican voters are right of center but not Right Wing Nuts. Ditto Romney. I refer to "Republicans" as the voters, not the candidates.

I think you're right if you mean "people who would probably vote for a Republican" when you say Republican. There are many a sane person who go for the R at the ballot box.

But what we see right now is the primary process, which involves not nearly as broad and diverse a crowd. These are the party people, not the general voters. Highly engaged issue voters and for the most part party members beyond merely general vote casters. These are the people the parties also solicit campaign contributuins and recruit volunteers from for canvassing and gotv efforts come November.

It's the base. And the Republican base has become increasingly hardcore over the last couple of years.

This is one of the reasons why McCain couldn't win against Obama. In order to secure the nomination, he had to pander so much to the hard right base that he lost his moderate cred, and the independents and centrist democrats that he might have been able to pick up shunned him.

The other, of course, being his batshit crazy running mate.

 

[CandiCame]

Goddamn it, VBM, you just forced me to agree with you.

Now you probably have to re-think your position.

Now,

Did I hear something in this thread about getting your ass fingered?

 

[rosco rathbone]

I don't like them either, but it's not the cultural/social issues that bother me.

 

[busybody..]

Producer For MSNBC’s Ed Schultz Compares Virginia GOP To Nazi Death Camp Doctor Joseph Mengele, Says An Ultrasound Is “Basically Torture”…




This was so over the top Schultz actually forces him to apologize later in the show.

Via Newsbusters:


SCHULTZ: What is happening in America? This is going to be the most radical, intrusive law passed on women’s health since Roe v. Wade. And (Virginia Gov. Bob) McDonnell says that he’s going to sign it.

HOLM: Uh huh. He’s eager to sign it.

SCHULTZ: We gotta do something big on this tonight. (on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show”)

HOLM: To me, and I’m not, I’m not calling the fine folks in the Republican Party Nazis. But what this is, this is Joseph Mengele stuff. This is medical testing. This is arcane, ridiculous, basically torture what they’re doing to these people.

Let’s play this out to its logical end. Thirteen-year-old girl gets raped in Richmond, Va. She becomes pregnant. They want to get rid of that baby. What are they going to do to her? They’re going to bring her into her doctor’s office and rape her again.

 

[subwannabe]

When I say "Republican" I actually mean registered Republican voter. McCain won the nomination because the majority of the registered Republican voters are more moderate, not the so called base. The right wing nut cases have brain washed everyone on both sides to believe that the "base" is a lot bigger than it actually is. The real base voted moderately for McCain while the perceived base is the right wing nut jobs. This same moderate base is on the Romney side while the perceived base is trying to find their right winger. McCain had the real majority base and then tried to bring in the smaller perceived "base" by annointing Sarah Palin. I believe McCain lost because the economy tanked right at that same time and the "Indepenent" voters had had enough of Republicans in power. The stupid Democrat victors took this as a mandate to push through their left wing liberal agenda and in the last few elections those independents have punished them for this overuse of their perceived mandate.

 

[Comshaw]

When I say "Republican" I actually mean registered Republican voter. McCain won the nomination because the majority of the registered Republican voters are more moderate, not the so called base. The right wing nut cases have brain washed everyone on both sides to believe that the "base" is a lot bigger than it actually is. The real base voted moderately for McCain while the perceived base is the right wing nut jobs. This same moderate base is on the Romney side while the perceived base is trying to find their right winger. McCain had the real majority base and then tried to bring in the smaller perceived "base" by annointing Sarah Palin. I believe McCain lost because the economy tanked right at that same time and the "Indepenent" voters had had enough of Republicans in power. The stupid Democrat victors took this as a mandate to push through their left wing liberal agenda and in the last few elections those independents have punished them for this overuse of their perceived mandate.

You,re so wrong. The only reason McCain lost was his running mate. Anyone with half a brain would never, ever vote for a wild card like Palin. The swing voters who decided that election just couldn't bring themselves to vote for her. Picking her as a running mate for McCain was a very stupid decision on the part of the RNC.

Had there been someone else picked, the election outcome would have been very different. The one thing that would have been the same was the economy. It was on it's way to the toilet before the election and there was no candidate that could have saved it or made the ensuing down turn any less severe.


Comshaw


Comshaw

 

[Sean Renaud]

No Republican could have won in 2008. It simply wasn't possible. The democrats could have run a black communist muslim terrorist against an apple pie baking christian American mom and gotten the victory.

 

[Sean]

No Republican could have won in 2008. It simply wasn't possible. The democrats could have run a black communist muslim terrorist against an apple pie baking christian American mom and gotten the victory.

I saw what you did there.

 

[subwannabe]

"No Republican could have won in 2008. It simply wasn't possible"

I agree. Maybe not to that extreme, but generally I agree. Yes, the economy had started to tank already before the elections but it tanked even worse just before the elections. Sarah Palin was indeed no help but no matter who was at the top or at the VP independent & moderate voters had had enough of GWB and the Republican party, the wars, and the economy. Like the idiots that they were, Obama and the Democrats took their victory as a 100% mandate to further their left wing agenda and paid the price for it in the following elections.

 

[Drixxx]

Obama and the Democrats took their victory as a 100% mandate to further their left wing agenda and paid the price for it in the following elections.

RomneyCare, bailouts, tax cuts, and terrorist killing is left wing agenda?

 

[JackLuis]

They are just trying to scare you to vote for them.

Romney: ‘Nuclear weaponry will by used’ if Obama re-elected

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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney on Wednesday played the ultimate fear card and promised that someone would definitely use nuclear weapons if President Barack Obama is re-elected.

“The price of gasoline pales in comparison to the idea of [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad with nuclear weapons,” Romney said. “Ahmadinejad having fissile material that he can give to Hezbollah, Hamas, and that they can bring into Latin America, and that they can potentially bring across the border into the United States to let off dirty bombs here — or more sophisticated bombs here.”

 

[John Doe]

You,re so wrong. The only reason McCain lost was his running mate. Anyone with half a brain would never, ever vote for a wild card like Palin. The swing voters who decided that election just couldn't bring themselves to vote for her. Picking her as a running mate for McCain was a very stupid decision on the part of the RNC.

Had there been someone else picked, the election outcome would have been very different. The one thing that would have been the same was the economy. It was on it's way to the toilet before the election and there was no candidate that could have saved it or made the ensuing down turn any less severe.


Comshaw


Comshaw

Why do you keep saying that the RNC picked Palin?

 

[RightField]

In case anyone has not seen vaginal ultrasound wands, they're a little bit thinner than a cucumber. It then has to be inserted into the vagina five to seven inches, filling it completely. The doc then locates the woman's cervix and presses up against it, which most women find uncomfortable.

The Republican Party says that it's the government's right to mandate this procedure for whoever it wants. If they can mandate such a thing prior to a perfectly legal abortion it's also in their power to require one prior to taking out a bank loan.

I'm certainly not a medical expert, but from what I understand, it's already standard operating procedure for an abortion so they can determine which kind procedure needs to be done. Is that not true?

 

[John Doe]

They are just trying to scare you to vote for them.



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You didn't read that article, did you?

 

[subwannabe]

When Obama first took office they had a left wing liberal agenda. After losing the next few national elections they had to mellow out and move more to the middle.

 

[Ishmael]

WTF is wrong with these fucking people.

They are now against birth control and Va wants to pass this fucked up abortion bill. this abortion bill forces doctors to do an ultra sound in a veiled attempt to guilt the mother into not aborting. they are shameless.

Under the Republican view we will soon be plagued with unwanted children. spreading STD"s at an alarming rate due to no condoms. Oh yeah they expect people not married to abstain from sex . with their plan to outlaw abortion women will soon find themselves bleeding to death from their visit to the back alley midwife armed with a coat hanger.

Hey republicans take your religious dogma and shove it up your midevil close minded rectums.

You really are pretty much an uniformed, non-thinking, idiot.

Ishmael

 

[Lord_Steve]

When Obama first took office they had a left wing liberal agenda.

this was never true hth

 

[JackLuis]

You didn't read that article, did you?

Yep, same old fear and trembling from the fear mongers.

I know how to duck and cover, and there is no bomb shelter worth a shit in a nuclear theater.

Bring the troops home and put them on the Mexican Border, the states will get the revenue from the troops, and maybe we can make the border less porous?

Gas in Kandahar is well over $400 a gal, with transport costs and bribes. I'll bet you can get Texas Diesel a whole lot cheaper at Fort Bliss.

Concentrate on the larger scale crimes in our own country and let the Petro/Finance fight their own battles.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

WTF is wrong with these fucking people.

They are now against birth control and Va wants to pass this fucked up abortion bill. this abortion bill forces doctors to do an ultra sound in a veiled attempt to guilt the mother into not aborting. they are shameless.

Under the Republican view we will soon be plagued with unwanted children. spreading STD"s at an alarming rate due to no condoms. Oh yeah they expect people not married to abstain from sex . with their plan to outlaw abortion women will soon find themselves bleeding to death from their visit to the back alley midwife armed with a coat hanger.

Hey republicans take your religious dogma and shove it up your midevil close minded rectums.

On the positive side, Newt wants to go back to the moon.

 

[Liar]

I'm certainly not a medical expert, but from what I understand, it's already standard operating procedure for an abortion so they can determine which kind procedure needs to be done. Is that not true?

If I've understood right, it's sometimes a thing that is used if needed, but most of the time it's medically unnessecary

But alas, an obgyn I am not.

The difference however is in the intent. If the doctor choose to insist on an ultrasound in order to gain medial data he thinks is needed, that's one thing. Mandating a specific medical procedure by political decree? Uh, that's something else. Might as well mandate urethral sounding every time a dude needs kidney stone treatment. It is on rare occasions needed, but most of the time not.

Not to mention that either law might be outdated the day a better medical procedure is developed. It's like writing into law that you need to have a bale of hay at home. You know, so the donkey don't starve.

 

[TexasWife25]

I'm certainly not a medical expert, but from what I understand, it's already standard operating procedure for an abortion so they can determine which kind procedure needs to be done. Is that not true?

The difference is, do you want your doctor deciding when a medical procedure is appropriate, or do you want your government.

 

[RightField]

The difference is, do you want your doctor deciding when a medical procedure is appropriate, or do you want your government.

As Liar implied above, I think it's the doctor doing it. I was under the impression it was a standard procedure because there are several different types of abortions that are used and each is appropriate for a different circumstance and time frame.

 

[TexasWife25]

As Liar implied above, I think it's the doctor doing it. I was under the impression it was a standard procedure because there are several different types of abortions that are used and each is appropriate for a different circumstance and time frame.

Im glad we could agree on something When to preform medical procedures, such as ultrasounds, should be at the doctors discretion, not the states

 

[Sean Renaud]

When Obama first took office they had a left wing liberal agenda. After losing the next few national elections they had to mellow out and move more to the middle.

They DID have a mandate that's just it. Obama winning was a forgone conclusion but the Congress didn't have to give him super majorities in both houses. He ran on health care reform, he got elected partially for that and again he got Congress. Their's onlye been one election sense then and the loses while severe didn't even cost them Congress, it should have but the Republicans ran on solid crazy pills and gave up seats that were damn near being handed to them. It'll be interesting to see if they try to run well not center but only right or if we're going to have another round of who can out crazy who. I don't think doubling down on crazy is a winning strategy but their welcome to try it again.

 

[Drixxx]

When Obama first took office they had a left wing liberal agenda. After losing the next few national elections they had to mellow out and move more to the middle.

What are you talking about? Outside of Guantanamo I can't think of too much he's "backed down" on.

I'm talking about the real Obama now. Not the right wing fantasy version of Obama.