Why democrats don't want photo ID

[NeverEndingMe]

The real reason why democrats do not want photo ID for voting, is the simple fact that they know the system is rampaged with fraud. Becoming registered to vote is a pretty simple process and easy to fraud the system. democrats know this.

this is the only reason why DEMOCRATS do not want photo ID, they know they would lose 10-30% of their voter base!

why else, would democrats not want photo ID? one needs photo ID to drive a car? one needs government ID to get on a plane. Doesn't one need photo ID to cash a check?

 

[phrodeau]

There are voters who don't drive or fly in planes or use banks.

You used "rampaged" wrong.

 

[LadyFairfax]

There are voters who don't drive or fly in planes or use banks.

You used "rampaged" wrong.

Fraught with fraud would have been better.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

There are voters who don't drive or fly in planes or use banks.

You used "rampaged" wrong.

I wanted to be dramatic.

so you agree that people should show an ID when voting. after all, this would reduce voter fraud, right!

glad to have your support brother

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Fraught with fraud would have been better.

So you agree that there is fraud in the voter system. Thanks Sister

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Two elections supervisors are taking action after an NBC2 investigation uncovers flawed record keeping and human error allowing people who are not citizens of the United States to vote.

No one knows how widespread this problem is, because county election supervisors have no way to track non-citizens who live here.

So NBC2 did something election officials never thought to do, and found them on our own.

"I vote every year," Hinako Dennett told NBC2.

The Cape Coral resident is not a US citizen, yet she's registered to vote.

NBC2 found Dennett after reviewing her jury excusal form. She told the Clerk of Court she couldn't serve as a juror because she wasn't a U.S. citizen.

We found her name, and nearly a hundred others like her, in the database of Florida registered voters.

Naples resident Yvonne Wigglesworth is also a not a citizen, but is registered to vote. She claims she doesn't know how she got registered.

"I have no idea. I mean, how am I supposed to know."

Records show Wigglesworth voted six times in elections dating back eleven years.

"I know you cannot vote before you become a citizen, so I never tried to do anything like that," Samuel Lincoln said.

He isn't a U.S. citizen either, but the Jamaican national says he doesn't know how he ended up registered to vote.

"It's their mistake, not mine," said Lincoln.

We obtained a copy of his 2007 voter registration application. It's clearly shows he marked U.S. citizen.

"This is under oath, that document, they are attesting that it is true and by falsifying, it's a third degree felony," said Tim Durham, Collier County's chief elections supervisor.

County supervisors of elections tell me they have no way to verify citizenship. Under the 1992 Motor Voter Law, they're not required to ask for proof.

"We have no policing authority. We don't have any way of bouncing that information off any other database that would give us that information," said Lee County Supervisor of Elections Sharon Harrington.

NBC2: Does that need to change??
Harrington: "I think it needs to be looked at."

Until that happens, the only way supervisors of elections can investigate voter fraud is if they get a tip.

So that's what our list became. After showing them the nearly 100 names we compiled, both county election offices sent letters to each voter, asking them verify citizenship.

"It could be very serious. It could change the whole complexion of an election," said Harrington.
It's important we don't know we know if these folks are here illegal or not, just they are potentially not U.S. citizens who registered to vote.

Voters who received letters have 30 days to show proof of citizenship, or they'll be taken off the registration rolls.

Based on our investigation, both election offices say they'll now request a copy of every jury excusal form where residents say they can't serve because they're not a citizen.

no Wonder democrats don't want people to show ID, right!

after all, anyone in America has a RIGHT to vote? hum

 

[phrodeau]

I wanted to be dramatic.

so you agree that people should show an ID when voting. after all, this would reduce voter fraud, right!

glad to have your support brother

So you agree you're a dipshit who doesn't understand English.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So you agree you're a dipshit who doesn't understand English.

stay focused, you agree with me that one must be a citizen and show ID to vote. Good. Thanks for your support plastic man - some day you can find a heart

 

[Liar]

There's no unifying standard for what ID is ok and what is not. As long as a partisan state legislature can decide arbitrarily that a concealed-carry permit is a valid ID, but a student ID or an out-of-state driver's license is not (or the other way around), fuck that.

 

[off2bed]

There are voters who don't drive or fly in planes or use banks.

You used "rampaged" wrong.

The State will issue you an ID even if you don't drive, dummy.

In Florida we have to show a valid ID to vote, along with our voter registration card. So I don't see what the issue is.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

The State will issue you an ID even if you don't drive, dummy.

In Florida we have to show a valid ID to vote, along with our voter registration card. So I don't see what the issue is.

why it should be illegal for the police to ask for a photo id when I'm driving. oh wait, we covered that.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

There's no unifying standard for what ID is ok and what is not. As long as a partisan state legislature can decide arbitrarily that a concealed-carry permit is a valid ID, but a student ID or an out-of-state driver's license is not (or the other way around), fuck that.

and, how else can we get illegals and dead people to vote. we must not ask for basic things like a photo ID. that is criminal

 

[Liar]

and, how else can we get illegals and dead people to vote. we must not ask for basic things like a photo ID. that is criminal

Read my post and try again.

 

[JoeRockStar]

The incredible irony is they want Card Check and Internet ID.

 

[LadyFairfax]

So you agree that there is fraud in the voter system. Thanks Sister

No, I agree that you misused the word rampaged.

I do not believe that voter fraud is a major problem in this country, or at least large enough that we need to go to great lengths combat it.

I also do not believe the democrats claim that 'poor people, elderly people and minorities' cannot obtain a picture ID and prove their identity before casting a ballot.

 

[cjh]

There are voters who don't drive or fly in planes or use banks.

You used "rampaged" wrong.

maybe that's supposed to be "rampant"?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

No, I agree that you misused the word rampaged.

I do not believe that voter fraud is a major problem in this country, or at least large enough that we need to go to great lengths combat it.

I also do not believe the democrats claim that 'poor people, elderly people and minorities' cannot obtain a picture ID and prove their identity before casting a ballot.

I'm thinking 10-20% of obama voters are, well non US citizens

 

[NeverEndingMe]

getting a ID is so hard how dare we expect people carry a ID to drive a car

democrats have a 'right' to do what ever they want with no questions asked

 

[DevilishTexan]

Even I knew "rampaged with fraud" was grammatically incorrect.

Sure, I had to step back from the laptop...for a moment.

 

[1sickbastard]

There are voters who don't drive or fly in planes or use banks.

If one wants a job in the USA, one must present 2 pieces of identification; a state issued photo ID and some documentation issued by the Federal Gov't which proves one has the legal right to hold a job (such as a Social Security Card or a Green Card).

Would someone please explain why the legal requirements to find work are more stringent that the legal requirements to prove one is eligible to vote?

 

[TexasWife25]

If one wants a job in the USA, one must present 2 pieces of identification; a state issued photo ID and some documentation issued by the Federal Gov't which proves one has the legal right to hold a job (such as a Social Security Card or a Green Card).

Would someone please explain why the legal requirements to find work are more stringent that the legal requirements to prove one is eligible to vote?

The better question would be, why is the ID I show to get a job, not good enough to vote with?

 

[bra_man69]

If one wants a job in the USA, one must present 2 pieces of identification; a state issued photo ID and some documentation issued by the Federal Gov't which proves one has the legal right to hold a job (such as a Social Security Card or a Green Card).

Would someone please explain why the legal requirements to find work are more stringent that the legal requirements to prove one is eligible to vote?

You do not have to show a photo id read the back of a i9
You can use social security and voter card.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

The better question would be, why is the ID I show to get a job, not good enough to vote with?

I have been told my military ID wasn't valid to purchase booze before. The Tiger Mart down the street will only accept state issued ID, nothing else.

There's no unifying standard for what ID is ok and what is not. As long as a partisan state legislature can decide arbitrarily that a concealed-carry permit is a valid ID, but a student ID or an out-of-state driver's license is not (or the other way around), fuck that.

See this is where I think this is something the fed should be doing but capital hill is to busy circle jerking PAC's for bullshit corruption money/contracts to give a fuck about the citizenry. Uniform ID cards.... endorsements on the back/chip like a CAC card. Every citizen has 1 card that does it all ID/DL/CHL/Voting/CCW/SS/CDL/Pasport etc. honored and usable nation wide.

 

[phrodeau]

If one wants a job in the USA, one must present 2 pieces of identification; a state issued photo ID and some documentation issued by the Federal Gov't which proves one has the legal right to hold a job (such as a Social Security Card or a Green Card).

Would someone please explain why the legal requirements to find work are more stringent that the legal requirements to prove one is eligible to vote?

You don't have to be someone's employee to make a living.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

You don't have to be someone's employee to make a living.

High 5 on the not working for the man bit.....working for yourself comes with it's own rash of shit but ime it beat's the hell out of sucking down 8 hr's of corporate koolaid M-F. At least you have a sense of satisfaction at the end of the year even if you didn't make a whole lot.