What The Fuck is wrong with our economy?

[JohnnySavage]

What? Did I say something?

I'm not one to argue with what other's know as a fact.

 

[heather_baby]

I'm not one to argue with what other's know as a fact.

Ah, I shouldn't have said "fact" per say, that was more or less a rant. Nothing is "fact" when it comes to the government.

 

[quimsical]

It's NOT just you. However:

Is it really smart to turn things like our social security over to the government?

Aren't they the reason for all of this in the first place?

I'd like to ask, is it really smart to turn things like our social security over to the private sector, to create yet another vector for corporate malfeasance?

The way I see it, I think that our Democracy is being slowly but surely being turned into a communist/dictatorship.

Well, the NDAA did break my heart and certified the honeymoon between me and the Prez was about over, but it isn't quite a dictatorship. Either way, it sucks: http://www.austinchronicle.com/columns/2012-01-27/letters-at-3am-ndaa-obamas-betrayal/

Hell even some of our rights are being overlooked!

Which ones are you thinking about?

 

[quimsical]

Nice rant.

Cute AV.

Lose the roses.

Fap fap fap.

Awww fuck, wrong thread.

 

[LadyFairfax]

The largest problem is that our tax code entices investment in speculative ventures rather than in solid production ventures.

Why the hell risk money on company with a new idea when it might take 8 years before they make a profit when you can risk money on hedge funds or oil futures and make your money in a day (and be taxed at the same rate as the slower less sure investments).

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not that the GB is normally a place where inteligence reigns but when did everybody become so stupid?

 

[heather_baby]

Not that the GB is normally a place where inteligence reigns but when did everybody become so stupid?

I didn't know I came off as stupid.. Most of that was simply my opinion.

 

[garbage can]

I agree
lets barrel ahead and potentially destroy local wildlife and an important water source.

Fuck the environment!

Our country needs chemotherapy, which kills the cancer cells a little faster than it kills the healthy cells.

We either die from doing nothing about the economy, or grab the bull by the horns and save our economy by doing what is necessary to get us running again. And yes, if it means fucking the enviroment, so be it.

 

[richard_daily]

Our country needs chemotherapy, which kills the cancer cells a little faster than it kills the healthy cells.

We either die from doing nothing about the economy, or grab the bull by the horns and save our economy by doing what is necessary to get us running again. And yes, if it means fucking the enviroment, so be it.

business is part of the environment, not the other way around.

 

[TexasWife25]

Our country needs chemotherapy, which kills the cancer cells a little faster than it kills the healthy cells.

We either die from doing nothing about the economy, or grab the bull by the horns and save our economy by doing what is necessary to get us running again. And yes, if it means fucking the enviroment, so be it.

If we're talking the pipeline specifically
IF its not done right the 1st time, not only will we
fuck up the environment, but the government will lose
more then the pipeline would ever make us in cleaning up, rebuilding
and reparations to all the people and farmers who are directly effected by the spill

Im not against progress, hell Im not even against the pipeline
Im against rushing into things without thought.

 

[Sean]

Is it just me, or has our economy gone to shit, so to speak?

Why is it that we live in such a greedy, self serving world? I know it's not only the US out there that's experiencing harsh times and a major depression. But can we really blame it ALL on the president?

High gas prices, raised taxes, poor housing capabilities, stores and private businesses being closed and turned over to the government; all effects of our economy. Even the new health care plan trying to be passed.

Is it really smart to turn things like our social security over to the government?

Aren't they the reason for all of this in the first place?

The way I see it, I think that our Democracy is being slowly but surely being turned into a communist/dictatorship.

Hell even some of our rights are being overlooked!

But do we do anything about it? Why do we sit on our assess and let the government throw is into turmoil? Our self greed? Laziness? Lack of will? Or is simply a level of scaredness?

How can we sit back and watch it happen?

I think that the president is just as much at fault as we the people are. We were fucked long before Obama came into play.

But don't get me wrong, he's done a major part on screwing us over that much more.

Anyway, these things were just on my mind. Wanted to see how others felt as well.

_Heather_

Are you from Florida?

 

[garbage can]

Im not against progress, hell Im not even against the pipeline
Im against rushing into things without thought.

Of course, and "thought" is 12 years for a licence to build a nuke plant.
Thought is 3 or 4 years for the Keystone pipeline.

Thought about ANWR goes back to the Clinton administration.

Thought about our farmers raising dust while plowing is now in progress.

Thought about the DOT requiring farmers to log driving time on farm machinery is now in progress.

"Thought" takes a long time.

How about my chemo idea, there's no time for thought, it's action now?

 

[Sean Renaud]

No, we aren't going with chemo. Things are nearly bad enough that the idea of doing something that drastic is at all on the table.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Not that the GB is normally a place where inteligence reigns but when did everybody become so stupid?

I blame Bush.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I blame Bush.

see now - that is funny!

 

[hobbit.]

Its a system based around money.

Humanity is better off and healthier in a hunter gatherer system.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The largest problem is that our tax code entices investment in speculative ventures rather than in solid production ventures.

Why the hell risk money on company with a new idea when it might take 8 years before they make a profit when you can risk money on hedge funds or oil futures and make your money in a day (and be taxed at the same rate as the slower less sure investments).

Cuz money is cheap paper with almost zero material value. What you suggest is entirely gambling. The manipulation of worthless paper.

Do this: Setup shop on a desert island. Bring along a pack of paper, printing press, and poker chips. Print all the paper into dollars. When alll is said and done you wont be an iota better off.

 

[hobbit.]

Do this: Setup shop on a desert island. Bring along a pack of paper, printing press, and poker chips. Print all the paper into dollars. When alll is said and done you wont be an iota better off.

control the irrigation supply, promote an agriculture based economy, then cut the water off..... inflation drops....

 

[LadyFairfax]

Cuz money is cheap paper with almost zero material value. What you suggest is entirely gambling. The manipulation of worthless paper.

Do this: Setup shop on a desert island. Bring along a pack of paper, printing press, and poker chips. Print all the paper into dollars. When alll is said and done you wont be an iota better off.

This ranks among the dumbest posts I have seen.

 

[hobbit.]

This ranks among the dumbest posts I have seen.

you ever seen the one by islandman suggesting a sheep fleece based system?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Global wage arbitrage (via tech advances in container shipping and communications), skilled based technological change, automation, 30 years of stagnant wages being swept under the rug by a credit bubble that finally popped, rising energy costs, failure to invest in infrastructure and education, idiotic trade policies that favor sending our technological and manufacturing know-how overseas, and short-sighted "free markets solve everything" thinking.

Any more questions?

 

[Sean]

Global wage arbitrage (via tech advances in container shipping and communications), skilled based technological change, automation, 30 years of stagnant wages being swept under the rug by a credit bubble that finally popped, rising energy costs, failure to invest in infrastructure and education, idiotic trade policies that favor sending our technological and manufacturing know-how overseas, and short-sighted "free markets solve everything" thinking.

Any more questions?

You're not from Florida, are you?

 

[rosco rathbone]

You're not from Florida, are you?

As far as I'm concerned, Poseidon can reclaim that entire godforsaken state/ Straight to davy jone's locker with it, seriously.

 

[shoulderblade]

You're not from Florida, are you?

Pssst. Mets country = New York. Not Florida.

 

[Beco]

I'm still waiting for my Obama money.

It will be Change....yes we can