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[FloridaSmoothie]

If Romney gets the nomination, but loses the general, what will that do to the Republican party?

 

[Radiohead]

If Romney gets the nomination, but loses the general, what will that do to the Republican party?

Theres been 3 winners, the difference would be what?

 

[FloridaSmoothie]

Theres been 3 winners, the difference would be what?

I got to buy a clue with this one.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If Romney gets the nomination, but loses the general, what will that do to the Republican party?

Grover Norquis says if the Republicans lose the 2012 election, and it's likely they will, then Republicans will focus on Operation Impeach The Niggar in 2014.

 

[rosco rathbone]

It will set the stage for the rise of Rand Paul...the most dangerous man in American politics.

 

[Beco]

Grover Norquis says if the Republicans lose the 2012 election, and it's likely they will, then Republicans will focus on Operation Impeach The Niggar in 2014.

1.7% growth.....and you're okay with that for 4 more years?

 

[ChinaBandit]

If Romney gets the nomination, but loses the general, what will that do to the Republican party?

Nothing.

If they could recover from 1964 in just four years anything is possible.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Like they say on mutual fund prospectuses:

 

[Sean]

It will set the stage for the rise of Rand Paul...the most dangerous man in American politics.

In the same way that Richard Simmons is the most dangerous man in a street fight.

 

[FloridaSmoothie]

Nothing.

If they could recover from 1964 in just four years anything is possible.

OK, but how will the party look four years later? More conservative (tea party) or more moderate (Romneid)? Would the conservatives go the third party route and throw in the towel with the Republican establishment? I really do not have a clue, just interested in what others think.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Rand Paul's representing Kentucky, no one will take him seriously as long as that state remains the backward ass shithole it is now.

Keep shaken and baken that Meth.

 

[Beco]

god damn millionaires.....class warfare is the way to go!

 

[ChinaBandit]

OK, but how will the party look four years later? More conservative (tea party) or more moderate (Romneid)? Would the conservatives go the third party route and throw in the towel with the Republican establishment? I really do not have a clue, just interested in what others think.

It's difficult to say.

There was huge blood letting in 1964 between the Eastern Establishment (Nelson Rockefeller) and Barry Goldwater and the conservatives. Nixon tied it all together in 68' with the help of Vietnam and Wallace's draw on southern Democratic voters.

Four years is a life time in Presidential politics. Someone could well emerge and steal the show. Who knew that Obama's 2004 Keynote Speach would have launched him as it did on the national stage.

I suspect Tea Party, evangelicals, moderates and neo-conservatives can settle on someone. For the moment, it's simply not clear who that someone is.

 

[phrodeau]

It's difficult to say.

There was huge blood letting in 1964 between the Eastern Establishment (Nelson Rockefeller) and Barry Goldwater and the conservatives. Nixon tied it all together in 68' with the help of Vietnam and Wallace's draw on southern Democratic voters.

Four years is a life time in Presidential politics. Someone could well emerge and steal the show. Who knew that Obama's 2004 Keynote Speach would have launched him as it did on the national stage.

I suspect Tea Party, evangelicals, moderates and neo-conservatives can settle on someone. For the moment, it's simply not clear who that someone is.

There were several commentators in 2004 suggesting Obama had a chance at the presidency.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Rand Paul's representing Kentucky, no one will take him seriously as long as that state remains the backward ass shithole it is now.

Keep shaken and baken that Meth.

Which is why I wonder why so many people take Newt Gingrich so seriously. He is from Ga. And Ga has never been the economically balanced darling of the South.

 

[ChinaBandit]

Which is why I wonder why so many people take Newt Gingrich so seriously. He is from Ga. And Ga has never been the economically balanced darling of the South.

It was one of the 13 original colonies/states.

Atlanta's not a joke of a city.

You have the precedent of the "Peanut Farmer."

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

It was one of the 13 original colonies/states.

Atlanta's not a joke of a city.

You have the precedent of the "Peanut Farmer."

What does that have to do with a Presidential nomination of today? Georgia may bring in money, but it has no freaking idea how to use it. Let alone how to balance the states debt/budget. The GA state debt is an economical joke. You really think Newt looks good in that light?

 

[ChinaBandit]

What does that have to do with a Presidential nomination of today? Georgia may bring in money, but it has no freaking idea how to use it. Let alone how to balance the states debt/budget. The GA state debt is an economical joke. You really think Newt looks good in that light?

Considering he hasn't represented a Georgian district in Congress this Century nor participated in state level government, not his problem. Moreover, no accountability for it in my mind. There may be heaps of things to hold against him but I don't see being from Georgia as one of them.

 

[TexasWife25]

It seems to me in the last several years the GOP have become far more right of center. They've abandoned moderate republican officials to put up the more conservative tea party picks. If they continue moving right it makes it far more likely that our 2 party system will go to 3 party, as a growing number of people seem to feel neither party really represents what they want.

 

[ChinaBandit]

The amount of money Obama's collecting suggests that some people are satisfied on their side.

 

[TexasWife25]

Last election Obama raised large sums of money via the internet and small donations, it was really remarkable the volume of people who donated $5 to fund his campagine. I dont see that happening this year. Yes he will never want for money, but that's because he's got the democratic establishment behind him.

 

[ChinaBandit]

You've identified the essence of the Republican problem.

What is their "establishment" in 2012? Is it Wall Street, the Tea Party, evangelicals, neo-cons, what?

One thing is clear, it's no longer what Nixon called the "Silent Majority."

 

[TexasWife25]

You've identified the essence of the Republican problem.

What is their "establishment" in 2012? Is it Wall Street, the Tea Party, evangelicals, neo-cons, what?

One thing is clear, it's no longer what Nixon called the "Silent Majority."

I think the GOP's biggest problem is social issues. I think a lot of independents would say they side with Republicans fiscally but Democrats on issues like gay rights, pro-choice, and religious freedom.
Independents are more likely to vote republican when the focus is on money, but if the candidate starts making sweeping statements about overturning roe v wade or prayer in schools then the independents start reevaluating the other contender.

 

[Beco]

I think the GOP's biggest problem is social issues. I think a lot of independents would say they side with Republicans fiscally but Democrats on issues like gay rights, pro-choice, and religious freedom.
Independents are more likely to vote republican when the focus is on money, but if the candidate starts making sweeping statements about overturning roe v wade or prayer in schools then the independents start reevaluating the other contender.

to me its like, hey we pass laws supporting a woman's right to choose, uh....can we move on? It turns me off as well, but 1.7% growth and Diane Sawyer lobbing soft questions at Obama, I gotta vote for change....that is, get rid of Obama!

 

[TexasWife25]

to me its like, hey we pass laws supporting a woman's right to choose, uh....can we move on? It turns me off as well, but 1.7% growth and Diane Sawyer lobbing soft questions at Obama, I gotta vote for change....that is, get rid of Obama!

I want to vote for someone whose not Obama
but Im not going to vote for any pos the GOP stick
out there.