I have returned.

Nope, because I long ago realised the error of my ways. Though I felt strongly at the time that my actions needed to be done for some wacked out greater good purpose in my head, I realised it was not my job to make personal matters public here on the boards. I could have said what I wanted to say without ever posting any personal information and that would have been a proper alternative. These notions are the result of my taking a look at my own sense of what is right and wrong, and coming to an honest conclusion, whether it meant taking a hit to my pride or not. The very same thing I've just asked people do to here and now.

People make mistakes, and often times people don't learn from their mistakes, or they learn how to cover them up better in the future, but there are rare times when a person makes a mistake, and learns from it. There are rare times when a person makes a mistake, and feels genuinely sorry for it.

This shit that Sonny and Nipples and anyone else posting RL info pertaining to the poster known as KK is wrong. Whether I've made one mistake or 20 mistakes in the past, whether I've atoned for them or let them go makes no difference in the fact that this shit happening now is wrong.

Congrats on another anniversary of marriage, by the way.

Thanks for the good wishes.

And maybe you HAVE changed... I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
 
What makes you think KK's "empty threats" weren't met by the same?

They weren't, because they were met by Sonny and others breaking the rules.

Are you trying to say Sonny didn't really mail packages full of dirt to people in RL? If that is the case, then 1. prove it and 2. Oh, you can't prove it? He maybe shouldn't have posted it in the first place, then.

Now, lets figure out how many other people chose to send messages to the actress thought to be the female in KK's pictures/videos. Or how many other people chose to send messages to people on KK's FB account(s). How about how many people sent messages to the children, friends and family of the guy who is allegedly behind the KK poster.
 
They weren't, because they were met by Sonny and others breaking the rules.

Are you trying to say Sonny didn't really mail packages full of dirt to people in RL? If that is the case, then 1. prove it and 2. Oh, you can't prove it? He maybe shouldn't have posted it in the first place, then.

Now, lets figure out how many other people chose to send messages to the actress thought to be the female in KK's pictures/videos. Or how many other people chose to send messages to people on KK's FB account(s). How about how many people sent messages to the children, friends and family of the guy who is allegedly behind the KK poster.

Don't you think that the girl that Ken was sending naked pictures of deserves to know how her private images are being used?
 
Yeah, I'm positive all those empty threats were just terrifying and Sonny was left with no choice but to blackmail the guy while breaking the rules here. It must have been rough for Sonny, having a gun pointed at his head and being forced to act like a douche bag instead of laughing off idle threats from someone who couldn't do a damn thing to him. :rolleyes:

P.S. Just because Sonny gave the KK poster time to come clean doesn't mean the KK poster had to come clean. It wasn't Sonny's job to force whoever was using the KK handle to tell the board all about his real life, who he/she is or even why he/she may have done any of this. Sonny had the right to ask the KK poster to come clean, and that is where his rights ended. Period.

So now you are the boss of Lit? You don't know exactly what happened and most likely never will. What about all the folks Ken duped into giving him their addresses during his "tomato seed" scam? They are the true innocents.

What makes you think KK's "empty threats" weren't met by the same?

Werd.
 
They weren't, because they were met by Sonny and others breaking the rules.

Are you trying to say Sonny didn't really mail packages full of dirt to people in RL? If that is the case, then 1. prove it and 2. Oh, you can't prove it? He maybe shouldn't have posted it in the first place, then.

Now, lets figure out how many other people chose to send messages to the actress thought to be the female in KK's pictures/videos. Or how many other people chose to send messages to people on KK's FB account(s). How about how many people sent messages to the children, friends and family of the guy who is allegedly behind the KK poster.
I would have read your post, but that would have entailed reading your post.

It's totally more fun to just type stuff.
 
Don't you think that the girl that ***** was sending naked pictures of deserves to know how her private images are being used?

I absolutely do. I just don't think it was our job. Hence why I said Sonny maybe should have gone to Laurel and asked her opinion on how to make sure that was not the case and that it was not happening on her site.
 
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I have to admit that if Karen comes up with some sort of slamdunk that she actually is that skinny actress, it's going to be melting coal into diamonds up in this motherfucker.

Male/female/it.....I think it's a very safe assumption that there will be some sort of attempt at this....even if he hires some chick outright or whatever.

I could care less what sex KK is really. I don't like the persona so it is a no erection zone regardless.

I like you more knowing that you never got it up at the thought of him/her/it.

Not really the point, though. The point is what drama that would create.

Yep. Even if he likes to bend over and take it in the ass literally.....I kinda can't see "The Entity Known As Ken/Karen/Kevin" taking this quietly. I hope he/she/it does for Laurel's sake and for the sake of the site...but...
 
I absolutely do. I just don't think it was our job. Hence why I said Sonny maybe should have gone to Laurel and asked her opinion on how to make sure that was not the case and that it was not happening on her site.

L+M don't give a shit as long as there's no legal comeback on them. There's a;lso more than a smidge of suspicion that Ken has business links of some kind to Lit. Think Natasha would have been informed under those circumstances?
 
So now you are the boss of Lit? You don't know exactly what happened and most likely never will. What about all the folks Ken duped into giving him their addresses during his "tomato seed" scam? They are the true innocents.



Werd.

All of those grown adults who chose to give their address to a politically nutty ranting maniac on the internet? Yes, even though their own stupidity/naivety, whatever got them into that position, I do still feel bad for how they must feel. Do those people and our feelings for them make it ok to break the rules, though? Nope.

Do try to pay attention here, as usual you have it wrong. I'm not standing up for KK, I'm saying we need to be better than KK. If KK really is a predator, then great, we've done a service to innocents everywhere by figuring it out, but that is where our part ends. Harassing these people here using their RL info is not our job. Contacting these people beyond this board is not our job. Making sure the female in KK's pics wasn't abused somehow is not our job. We stumbled upon the info, it was our job to pass that info to the proper authorities and leave it be.
 
L+M don't give a shit as long as there's no legal comeback on them. There's a;lso more than a smidge of suspicion that Ken has business links of some kind to Lit. Think Natasha would have been informed under those circumstances?

I'd like to see a post or PM from Laurel to confirm or deny.
 
They weren't, because they were met by Sonny and others breaking the rules.

Are you trying to say Sonny didn't really mail packages full of dirt to people in RL? If that is the case, then 1. prove it and 2. Oh, you can't prove it? He maybe shouldn't have posted it in the first place, then.

Are you trying to say then that KK didn't really do whatever he threatened to Sonny? If so, 1. Prove it and 2. Oh, you can't prove it? Maybe he shouldn't have made those threats in the first place, then.

Playing devil's advocate somewhat because I find your reasoning there, with regard to that point you make specifically, faulty. I agree with the basic premise that generally we shouldn't fuck with people irl, but I don't know whether the actions on Sonny's part isn't actually just a form of self defense to protect himself against the retaliation that the kk troll is (well documented) likely to perpetuate.
 
All of those grown adults who chose to give their address to a politically nutty ranting maniac on the internet? Yes, even though their own stupidity/naivety, whatever got them into that position, I do still feel bad for how they must feel. Do those people and our feelings for them make it ok to break the rules, though? Nope.

Do try to pay attention here, as usual you have it wrong. I'm not standing up for KK, I'm saying we need to be better than KK. If KK really is a predator, then great, we've done a service to innocents everywhere by figuring it out, but that is where our part ends. Harassing these people here using their RL info is not our job. Contacting these people beyond this board is not our job. Making sure the female in KK's pics wasn't abused somehow is not our job. We stumbled upon the info, it was our job to pass that info to the proper authorities and leave it be.

Where do you think those mailings were going to from Sonny? You don't know, all you know is you must feed your hunger for drama - any drama - especially drama that you have no fucking clue about.

You keep mentioning Lit rules. Do you know exactly what Lit rules were broken? Yeah, I doubt it.
 
Male/female/it.....I think it's a very safe assumption that there will be some sort of attempt at this....even if he hires some chick outright or whatever.

Yep. Even if he likes to bend over and take it in the ass literally.....I kinda can't see "The Entity Known As Ken/Karen/Kevin" taking this quietly. I hope he/she/it does for Laurel's sake and for the sake of the site...but...

I just hope it's a big, dramatic, beautiful splash when it occurs.

I think L&M would prefer it to create more clicks.
 
I just hope it's a big, dramatic, beautiful splash when it occurs.

I think L&M would prefer it to create more clicks.

I'm over the whole thing. I don't know whose idea it was to bump old porn threads but....I'm considering it.

Well....I'm sure they like more traffic, but I'm sure they hate the PMs and flagged posts they have to be getting a shit ton of. This board is largely unmoderated....which is awesome....but I guarantee you they both have better shit to do than to wade through a bitch fest and sort out what's legally ok and not.
 
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