Nerdy_Harold
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I totally despise the new generation of vampire writers. They have corrupted the genre. Vampires walking around in the daylight. Bram Stoker is crying.
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EllieTalbot
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That's okay. He's just joining the whining chorus of the people who wrote the legends he "corrupted" and changed beyond recognition.
For centuries before Stoker, vampires (in European mythology at any rate) were zombie-like wretches who crawled, rotting, out of their graves at night, returning to them during the day. That's where the old stake to the heart thing came from; superstitious people would drive a stake through the dead person they were burying, supposedly pinning it down in the coffin so it couldn't rise. There was a whole set of beliefs about them - that they came back because they were wronged, or had done wrong, etc. Blood-drinking was only part of their mindless activity.
The changes in the new vampires are tiny compared to what Stoker did. He's the one who romanticized them, and now the job's finished; they've been romanticized completely.
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Bram Stokers vampire could walk around in daylight. If you're going to compare books you should at least read them.
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Common confusion due to numerous movies. He was weaker in daylight.
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What she said.
KRCummings
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It's true that the current trend in vampires does indeed suck but for other reasons than walking in daylight and being emo. If anything they should all be emo. Dracula certainly was in his own way. The lifestyle almost demands it.
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It's not a lifestyle choice, goddammit. I was born this w---sorry, many articles suggest vampirism is genetic.
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Blades vampirism was genetic wasn't it? I'm not really a vampire geek so I don't remember for sure. I thought it was.
I was on my way to vampire geekdom back in the early Anne Rice days but she went and got all batshit crazy on me and ruined the whole thing. Gay vampires. Tours of Hell. Veronica s Veil. For fucks sake.
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Yes. In the Marvel Universe vampirism is genetic.
Very_Bad_Man
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Blade was BADASS
Sean Renaud
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Damn KRC got here first. But yeah. Go read some of the "source" material. The weakness to sunlight started in Hollywood with Max Shrek's Nosferatu and had more to do with not having the budget or special effects yet to do much else.
Also Twilight (which to be fair I haven't watched. Like 99% of the people who hate it I've seen a total of 10 minutes of photage stretched over three movies via commercials and previews. I really shouldn't judge them either.) Vamps don't suck any more or less now than they did before. You just don't have to put up with shit you wouldn't otherwise because there are actually vampires in the media.
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True, but from those myths we got the original I Am Legend and from that Romero and the modern zombie mythology, which is fairly close.
Two for one, so far as I'm concerned.
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True, also. The zombie phenom probably wouldn't be around if vampire myth had remained close to its roots. And actually I shouldn't say Stoker was the only one who romanticized them; he was just the last in a series of primarily Victorian-era authors who did; there were even homosexual vamps in literature back then.
You know what's really disturbing is that the original vampire myths likely have roots in reality. In those unenviable days before medical science, sometimes people were buried alive because they just looked dead. Can you imagine how sucky it would be to get really sick and pass out, wake up buried, claw your way out of the ground and stumble-crawl your way into the village, only to be met with friends and family who scream in terror and stake you in the heart?
Now that's a horror show.
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If you want more accuracy, then blame poor Varney the Vampyre for the romantic nature of the vampire myth.
He preceded Stoker by at least 50 years and perhaps by a century depending on when the story was actually penned. Stoker grabbed onto much of the Varney mythology and added his own twists with Dracula.
(you can get Varney on Kindle for $0).
He preceded Stoker by at least 50 years and perhaps by a century depending on when the story was actually penned. Stoker grabbed onto much of the Varney mythology and added his own twists with Dracula.
(you can get Varney on Kindle for $0).
It was Bram Stoker (and John Polidori and Sheridan le Fanu and James Malcolm Rymer) who corrupted the Eastern European legends, where vampires were as mindless as Romero zombies.
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And Romero who is largely credited for updating zombies from the crappy vodoo ones to the undead ones we have now. All things said it's a pretty sweet deal.
Vampire and werewolf legends might also have been inspired by cases of advanced rabies (makes you act crazy, shun sunlight, and attack anyone you see, and it's contagious -- which, BTW, in the original legends, vampirism was not) or perhaps porphyria (which might or might not be the disease that drove George III mad).
I'd like to see a movie where a Romero-expy is filming in Haiti, somehow pisses off a voodoo priest, and meets his horrible doom (by strangulation with no biting) at the hands of just one real zombie.
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Except one bullet of good stab wound would stop a Vodoo Zombie. They aren't really all that intimidating. Particularly not compared to their viral cousins.
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True, also. The zombie phenom probably wouldn't be around if vampire myth had remained close to its roots. And actually I shouldn't say Stoker was the only one who romanticized them; he was just the last in a series of primarily Victorian-era authors who did; there were even homosexual vamps in literature back then.
You know what's really disturbing is that the original vampire myths likely have roots in reality. In those unenviable days before medical science, sometimes people were buried alive because they just looked dead. Can you imagine how sucky it would be to get really sick and pass out, wake up buried, claw your way out of the ground and stumble-crawl your way into the village, only to be met with friends and family who scream in terror and stake you in the heart?
Now that's a horror show.
Not Dead Yet in New Delhi,
Ellie
That would suck, but it doesn't justify eating their brains.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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