Flagrant Gender Discrimination!

[Boxlicker101]

Do you think it would be right that a high school football team would be disqualified because one of its members was a girl? No? Then read this:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/...eam-disqualified-8230-?urn=highschool-wp10098

 

[Stella_Omega]

You are quite right, that's sex discrimination.

 

[Handley_Page]

Cheerleading is a sport ?

 

[sr71plt]

A cheerleading squad is a football team?

When I went to university, the cheerleading squad was all male.

 

[lovecraft68]

My daughter was a cheerleader in high school. When she was looking at colleges she played a joke on me saying she was looking at Morehead university. I was like "Okay."

She then says that if she gets accepted there she was going to try out for the squad. I'm still not really making the connection.

Until my older daughter (in on this) chimes in

"Hey great, you can jump up an down and yell "More head!"

Yeah, I deserve this.

 

[3113]

You are quite right, that's sex discrimination.

Agreed. You're quite right on this one, Box. It's gender discrimination--and the irony is that there have been and still are plenty of cheerleading squads that were mixed gender. Cheerleading wasn't always an all girl sport and I'm pretty amazed that the rules say it is.

I hope something can be done about this.

When I went to university, the cheerleading squad was all male.

Was that back in the Jurassic or the Cretaceous?

 

[sr71plt]

Was that back in the Jurassic or the Cretaceous?

UVa was an all-male undergraduate university until 1972.

 

[lovecraft68]

UVa was an all-male undergraduate university until 1972.

For some reason when I saw this it reminded me of a "circle jerk" thread over in the How to forum. Bet there was a lot of that going on in an all guy college.

 

[sr71plt]

I doubt it. Drinking and chasing up skirts of coeds from neighboring colleges seemed the primary goals. UVa wasn't--and isn't--one of those effete New England Ivy League institutions. I wouldn't have known, though, I didn't discover my bi side until my late twenties.

But if the thought of it turns you on (and it must, since you're thinking about it), I can ask around Alumni Hall. It's only about six blocks from my house.

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

This reminds me of the controversy over boys playing on girls field hockey teams (it's allowed in some states and not in others). Ditto for volleyball.

When I went to university, the cheerleading squad was all male.

Was that back in the Jurassic or the Cretaceous?

My high school's cheerleaders (though they weren't called that) were all male when I was there.

No skirts, peppy cheers, or pyramids of any kind, though. Just awful sweaters, khakis, chanting, and songs no one really knew the words to any more.

 

[lovecraft68]

I doubt it. Drinking and chasing up skirts of coeds from neighboring colleges seemed the primary goals. UVa wasn't--and isn't--one of those effete New England Ivy League institutions. I wouldn't have known, though, I didn't discover my bi side until my late twenties.

But if the thought of it turns you on (and it must, since you're thinking about it), I can ask around Alumni Hall. It's only about six blocks from my house.

Nah, doesn't turn me on, but unlike you I am open to at least read about and learn about things. Funny though most of the people responding in the threads said this shit went on big time in college.

I bet you were not only in a few, but were most likely the pivot man, and volunteered to eat the cracker when the game turned into "Limp Biscuit"

 

[sr71plt]

This reminds me of the controversy over boys playing on girls field hockey teams (it's allowed in some states and not in others). Ditto for volleyball.

In keeping with what Handley Page posted, I don't see this as related to sports at all. I don't think of cheerleading as a sport. (And Box most certainily misnamed the slug for the thread.)

 

[lovecraft68]

In keeping with what Handley Page posted, I don't see this as related to sports at all. I don't think of cheerleading as a sport. (And Box most certainily misnamed the slug for the thread.)

It became a sport (of sorts) when they started having the competitions. There are even scholarships for it.

 

[sr71plt]

"Nah, doesn't turn me on, but unlike you I am open to at least read about and learn about things. Funny though most of the people responding in the threads said this shit went on big time in college.

I bet you were not only in a few, but were most likely the pivot man, and volunteered to eat the cracker when the game turned into 'Limp Biscuit'"

Take your crappy swiftboating elsewhere, jealous loser.

And nice job gay bashing on a gender discrimination thread.

 

[LettersFromTatyana]

In keeping with what Handley Page posted, I don't see this as related to sports at all. I don't think of cheerleading as a sport. (And Box most certainily misnamed the slug for the thread.)

You're right. I could have sworn that cheerleading was a sport under Title IX, which was why I cited those two.

But I just checked, and it's not. At least, not yet.

 

[TE999]

Do you think it would be right that a high school football team would be disqualified because one of its members was a girl? No? Then read this:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/...eam-disqualified-8230-?urn=highschool-wp10098

I don't agree either, but dem's da rules. Either get em' changed or don't compete.

 

[lovecraft68]

"Nah, doesn't turn me on, but unlike you I am open to at least read about and learn about things. Funny though most of the people responding in the threads said this shit went on big time in college.

I bet you were not only in a few, but were most likely the pivot man, and volunteered to eat the cracker when the game turned into 'Limp Biscuit'"

Take your crappy swiftboating elsewhere, jealous loser.

And nice job gay bashing on a gender discrimination thread.

Where was I gay bashing? I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. Just figured seeing your alleged bisexuality you may have participated in one. But I'm sorry, I forget what an insecure little man you are.

and again, for me to be jealous wouldn't you have to have something I want?

 

[SydneyBlake]

A cheerleading squad is a football team?

When I went to university, the cheerleading squad was all male.

Me, too, and we didn't call them cheerleaders. In fact, that is still the case today, as far as I know.

"I went to university," btw, sounds very, I dunno, British. Or at least very Hahvahd. Just sayin'.

 

[sr71plt]

Swiftboater: You want to hound and swiftboat me off the forum (which ain't gonna happen). That's certainly your sick, jealous want.

Don't make me laugh that you aren't gay baiting.

(Have you bothered to follow up the leads that put egg on your face on my career affiliations, yet? Ask around to a couple of folks here you slobber all over. You'll be surprised what some of them know.)

 

[lovecraft68]

Me, too, and we didn't call them cheerleaders. In fact, that is still the case today, as far as I know.

"I went to university," btw, sounds very, I dunno, British. Or at least very Hahvahd. Just sayin'.

He copy and pasted the wrong sentence.

And watch out making fun of Boston accents, Red may get offended.

 

[sr71plt]

Me, too, and we didn't call them cheerleaders. In fact, that is still the case today, as far as I know.

By the time I went to UVa, they were being called cheerleaders there (and they did more drinking than cheering). A century before that, though, they were being called something like the cheer squad. Our cheerleaders for UVa now are about half and half male and female.

 

[Boxlicker101]

In keeping with what Handley Page posted, I don't see this as related to sports at all. I don't think of cheerleading as a sport. (And Box most certainily misnamed the slug for the thread.)

If a high school has a sport which is generally played by boys, such as football, and no comparable sport for girls, the school must allow girls to play that sport with the boys. Of course, most girls are not interested in playing football and wouldn't be any good at it (Please don't flame me; I said "most") if they were. Soccer is not similar enough to football to be counted, just as field hockey and ice hockey are not much alike.

When done competitively, such as in the link in the OP, cheerleading is considered a sport, although it is new and may not be included under Title iX. It probably never will be, because the idea behind the law was to extend equality to females, rather than males.

Why is the slug misnamed? It is certainly about gender discrimination.

 

[SydneyBlake]

He copy and pasted the wrong sentence.

And watch out making fun of Boston accents, Red may get offended.

You know I love Red more than my luggage. Let her come visit me, and I'll show her how to suck the juice out of the head.

 

[lovecraft68]

You know I love Red more than my luggage. Let her come visit me, and I'll show her how to suck the juice out of the head.

Sounds good. I'll tell her to bring you some carots

 

[sr71plt]

"I went to university," btw, sounds very, I dunno, British. Or at least very Hahvahd. Just sayin'.

Reality is worse than that. Those at UVa still call it The Unversity (like it's the only one). That's the school sticker I have on the back wind shield of my car--but I do it as a joke.

And this area IS quite British. For a couple of centuries, Central Virginians went to England for their mates and vice versa. Lady Astor (first woman in the British parliament), for instance, was a Charlottesville girl.