What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[richard_daily]

I don't want to get into that debate in this thread...

The evidence is rather overwhelming if one understands the Constitution.

"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away."
Thomas Jefferson

"To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, “the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, & the fruits acquired by it.'”
Thomas Jefferson

I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. If we run into such debts, we must be taxed in our meat and drink, in our necessities and in our comforts, in our labor and in our amusements. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labor of the people, under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
Thomas Jefferson

I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
Thomas Jefferson

With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.
James Madison

"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
Thomas Jefferson

"The Tenth Amendment is the foundation of the Constitution."
Thomas Jefferson

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare... they may appoint teachers in every state... The powers of Congress would subvert the very foundation, the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America.
James Madison

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Have a Nice Day!

Odd, that doesn't look like the constitution to me.

 

[patrick1]

Hm, loos like a set of cut and paste quotes.

But obviously, it could be turned into a constitution, with a little work.

Oh wait. You folks already have one, and I've always been jealous of it.

Hm.

Patrick

 

[richard_daily]

Hm, loos like a set of cut and paste quotes.

But obviously, it could be turned into a constitution, with a little work.

Oh wait. You folks already have one, and I've always been jealous of it.

Hm.

Patrick

well, aj always HAS been a "living constitution" guy... it morphs and changes to suit his current argument and position.

 

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[Peregrinator]

The repudiation of liberals everywhere:


Obama's Job Approval Drops Below Carter's

President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Rest here:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/wa...11/29/obamas-job-approval-drops-below-carters

Lmao...Lady P gave him a "C" for his performance so far. That's fucking brutal for her to say about a good lefty like Obama.

 

[Sean]

Lmao...Lady P gave him a "C" for his performance so far. That's fucking brutal for her to say about a good lefty like Obama.

That's because he's about as much a lefty as I'm a card carrying member of Jews for Jesus.

 

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[richard_daily]

Lmao...Lady P gave him a "C" for his performance so far. That's fucking brutal for her to say about a good lefty like Obama.

Obama's a lefty?

I've been waiting for him to be "the most liberal guy in the senate" for 3 years now...

Wha' happend?

 

[garbage can]

President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Check with UD and Merc, they'll tell you Gallup is a known liar.

 

[Ham Murabi]

Obama's a lefty?

I've been waiting for him to be "the most liberal guy in the senate" for 3 years now...

Wha' happend?

Oh that's right. Obama conservatives are always going around talking about needing the rich to pay more taxes.
Kinda like Reagan Democrats.

 

[richard_daily]

Oh that's right. Obama conservatives are always going around talking about needing the rich to pay more taxes.
Kinda like Reagan Democrats.

The rich need to pay pre-1997 taxes... or Nixon-era taxes.

The current tax rate for the rich is the lowest in the developed world, and it's unsustainable. I though the right was worried about the deficit? I guess that's only a talking point.

 

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[Peregrinator]

That's because he's about as much a lefty as I'm a card carrying member of Jews for Jesus.

Obama's a lefty?

I've been waiting for him to be "the most liberal guy in the senate" for 3 years now...

Wha' happend?

That might be the problem.

Tell her I give her much credit for shorting as much of her intellectual investment as she apparently has. There are many lesser people here who will go to the grave before admitting they misjudged Obama.

She's pretty damn independent. However, much as it pains me to admit it, I think she's also more or less a one-issue voter. And he's far from delivering on that issue.

 

[Peregrinator]

What's unsustainable is the present level of government spending against all of the wealth in America.

Why can't we do something simple and obvious, like an across the board 10% cut in all spending and an across the board 5% hike in all revenue sources? Whatever numbers make sense, I mean.

 

[richard_daily]

Why can't we do something simple and obvious, like an across the board 10% cut in all spending and an across the board 5% hike in all revenue sources? Whatever numbers make sense, I mean.

Because Grover Norquist would throw a tantrum.

 

[Ham Murabi]

The rich need to pay pre-1997 taxes... or Nixon-era taxes.

The current tax rate for the rich is the lowest in the developed world, and it's unsustainable. I though the right was worried about the deficit? I guess that's only a talking point.

Spell it out for us. How much does the deficit drop if "the rich" paid taxes at the pre-1997 rate?
I'll be generous up front and agree to a current Obama deficit of just $1 trillion, though it's probably closer to $1.3 trillion. Given that, tell us how that bad old deficit will just flat disappear if the rich will just cough up another trillion by paying at the pre-1997 rate.

 

[garbage can]

The current tax rate for the rich is the lowest in the developed world, and it's unsustainable. .

Gawd, you're stupid.

 

[koalabear]

Why can't we do something simple and obvious, like an across the board 10% cut in all spending and an across the board 5% hike in all revenue sources? Whatever numbers make sense, I mean.

That would take common sense, a commodity that has been missing in Washington for decades.

 

[islandman]

UD, could you pick up your assistant Islandman and assure all of these folks that all is well, and that they are merely hallucinating? Thanks.


Businesses plan for possible end of euro

By Tony Barber in London and Daniel Dombey in Istanbul

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/25ab975a-1a9f-11e1-ae14-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1f6QmUkFD

If you go back and re-read our exchange on Europe's debt issues and the destabilization of the Euro, I poked fun at your analysis because, being the C&P cowboy that you are, the analysis you provided has very little to do with the conclusion that Europe was in deep doo-doo.

As a result, I made fun of your ability to understand what you C&P and you got pissy.



None of the above is a revelation to anyone who reads your spewage.


But look at how it got stuck in your craw. \/

 

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[islandman]

Correction: I never get "pissy" I'm always smiling.

Yeah, you were totally smiling when you brought up our exchange weeks after the fact.

 

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