The Last Thing You Thought...

[TheJestersAdvocate]

Ugh...I need to get to sleep, but I'm not tired. Figures.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Ugh...I need to get to sleep, but I'm not tired. Figures.

*pounce tackles a ken*

HEY

LT~stop it, you damned crazy person!!!

 

[ShyMystica]

I believe its healthier, and leads to greater happiness, if you put understanding another individual ahead of trusting them.

Trust, in my opinion, is greatly overrated. There is too much implied faith involved for me to really affix a tremendous degree of value to it. I've found that knowing what to expect from people and understanding their motives is a more critical aspect of relationships.

This has me thinking. You are right, to some degree. Understanding another individual ahead of trusting them seems fitting for most people I would come in contact with in my lifetime.

But I don't think I could ever NOT trust anyone. There are those who earn such trust. To be it valuable depending on the level I trust in another. I don't see how it is possible not to have trust at all in life. I figured it is part of being human to want to trust another; companionship, loyalty, love...

Then again; I could just be hopelessly romantic.

 

[TheJestersAdvocate]

*pounce tackles a ken*

HEY

LT~stop it, you damned crazy person!!!

*blinks, then barely manages to turn my head before seeing Luna diving at me* Ooooooooooooooooooof!

*lands in a heap and takes a breath* Hay!?!?! Hay is for horses......

*cheesily grins before slumping over*

 

[Seranova]

This has me thinking. You are right, to some degree. Understanding another individual ahead of trusting them seems fitting for most people I would come in contact with in my lifetime.

But I don't think I could ever NOT trust anyone. There are those who earn such trust. To be it valuable depending on the level I trust in another. I don't see how it is possible not to have trust at all in life. I figured it is part of being human to want to trust another; companionship, loyalty, love...

Then again; I could just be hopelessly romantic.

I do agree on that point, trust can and should be earned. Seems rather sad to go through life not trusting anyone.

 

[Britwitch]

Shy, you rock!
Love my new AV

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

*blinks, then barely manages to turn my head before seeing Luna diving at me* Ooooooooooooooooooof!

*lands in a heap and takes a breath* Hay!?!?! Hay is for horses......

*cheesily grins before slumping over*

*kisses his nose*

How ya doing?

*tries to sit him up*

LT~I can count the adults I trust with my life on one friggin hand. And I consider myself lucky to have them.

Everyone else is just one fuck up away from being not worth a conversation. I don't want to understand them. I don't need to understand them. I just talk to those worth carrying on a conversation with and wait for em to fuck it up.

They usually do.

 

[Noon_Shadow]

Whew. Got that finished. That was fun...but so fucking long.

 

[ShyMystica]

I do agree on that point, trust can and should be earned. Seems rather sad to go through life not trusting anyone.

Sad? A little. It does make me sad that there are people in this life who have become so cold as to not trust. But that is the reality of the coldness of the world. A majority of people are out for themselves. It isn't a pleasant thought, but a reality. That is why, for me, giving my trust is that much more of a previous gift.

Shy, you rock!
Love my new AV

YAY! You got the one that made me giggle! I am glad you love it

LT~I can count the adults I trust with my life on one friggin hand. And I consider myself lucky to have them.

Everyone else is just one fuck up away from being not worth a conversation. I don't want to understand them. I don't need to understand them. I just talk to those worth carrying on a conversation with and wait for em to fuck it up.

They usually do.

I think I adore you for this point of view.

 

[TheJestersAdvocate]

*kisses his nose*

How ya doing?

*tries to sit him up*

LT~I can count the adults I trust with my life on one friggin hand. And I consider myself lucky to have them.

Everyone else is just one fuck up away from being not worth a conversation. I don't want to understand them. I don't need to understand them. I just talk to those worth carrying on a conversation with and wait for em to fuck it up.

They usually do.

Aww shucks, thanks. *sits up with the assistance provided*

I am doing quite fine...wish I was much tired then I am, since I have to report for.....*winces*.....jury duty in the morning. *grumbles*

But otherwise, I am peachy keen, honky dory a-ok, Wolfie-babe.

And how are you doing?

 

[Britwitch]

YAY! You got the one that made me giggle! I am glad you love it

I see myself as more of a giggly, slightly naughty, witch...rather than a wicked one. Thought that image summed that up pretty nicely!

(Plus she's dark haired with a fairly generous chest... read into that what you will! )

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Whew. Got that finished. That was fun...but so fucking long.

FUCKING awe inspiring!!!

I think I adore you for this point of view.

I adore you just cuz you get me...and that is a rare and very valuable thing.

Aww shucks, thanks. *sits up with the assistance provided*

I am doing quite fine...wish I was much tired then I am, since I have to report for.....*winces*.....jury duty in the morning. *grumbles*

But otherwise, I am peachy keen, honky dory a-ok, Wolfie-babe.

And how are you doing?

Well other than my mood swinging up and down like a damned see-saw, I am fine.
am forcing myself to stay up for a bit as I work over night tomorrow...but tis a hard row to hoe...as I have been up since about 8 this morning..

*grins*

 

[TheJestersAdvocate]

Well other than my mood swinging up and down like a damned see-saw, I am fine.
am forcing myself to stay up for a bit as I work over night tomorrow...but tis a hard row to hoe...as I have been up since about 8 this morning..

*grins*

Hope the see saw settles down on the good side.

Loved working overnights.....save for the weekend power shifts I had at one job. from Friday night at 11pm to Monday at 7am, crammed 40 hours of work in there.

As much of a nightowl I am, that was too much.

And if anyone could row a hoe, I'd think it'd be you. *uber cheesy grin*


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As for the trust issue being talked about now.....everyone is on equal footing for me upon first meeting....then their overall behavior and actions with me or just involving others gives me a sense of how much I'd trust them with. Basically "The Good, the bad and the ugly" system.....with each having it's own sub levels and depending upon how much I trust the person, crisscrossing to another or all to certain degrees.

There are few people that I trust absolutely.....but I cherish them and pray that I never betray the trust they have put within me.

 

[Nina327]

I want to sink my teeth into something.. yet nothing is apealing............. dammit.

 

[TheJestersAdvocate]

*tosses an apple to Nina*

It's healthy at least.

*saves the steak as backup*

 

[Seranova]

I want to sink my teeth into something.. yet nothing is apealing............. dammit.

*bites Nina*

 

[Light Ice]

If you understand someone then it becomes a great deal easier, and more reasonable, to place trust in them. It allows you to avoid burdening them with expectations to which they may be unable, or incapable, of meeting. People, in my experience, succeed most frequently when you assist them into a position set-up for their success. Trust seems to be no different.

I think it's important that I make it clear that I trust people in my life. I'm not against trusting people. I can't really imagine a reasonable argument for -not- trusting at least a handful of people in your life.

I'm merely suggesting that understanding those people before you put that trust in them is wise and constructive.

 

[ShyMystica]

If you understand someone then it becomes a great deal easier, and more reasonable, to place trust in them. It allows you to avoid burdening them with expectations to which they may be unable, or incapable, of meeting. People, in my experience, succeed most frequently when you assist them into a position set-up for their success. Trust seems to be no different.

I think it's important that I make it clear that I trust people in my life. I'm not against trusting people. I can't really imagine a reasonable argument for -not- trusting at least a handful of people in your life.

I'm merely suggesting that understanding those people before you put that trust in them is wise and constructive.

Very wise LI. And well worded.

 

[Noon_Shadow]

Yes, it's sleepy times, now. I need to get to bed. G'night, all.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Yes, it's sleepy times, now. I need to get to bed. G'night, all.

You will have a book to think on, post wise...sleep well!

*cuddles*

LT~OK wench...see what you can do to edit some of this extra crap out!

 

[Nina327]

*tosses an apple to Nina*

It's healthy at least.

*saves the steak as backup*

*throws the apple at him*

*bites Nina*

*taps him on the head*
Ahem.... I believe I was wishing for the opposite of that...

I'm merely suggesting I'm less of an ass that I permit myself to be 99% of the time.

QFT.

 

[Light Ice]

Very wise LI. And well worded.

Sadly, not enough people act accordingly. The romantic idea of "trust" and "betrayal" is too attractive for people to operate on a more practical level in their relationships. The result is heartbreak, needless heartbreak, between people who often care for one another and had only the best intentions.

In some cases, not all but a significant case, it seems as though people who enjoy being "victims" and people who enjoy being "heroes" fall into this trap with startling regularity. It's just too easy to say, "They betrayed my trust!" and too difficult to say, "I deluded myself with unreal expectations!".

 

[TheJestersAdvocate]

*throws the apple at him*

*catches the apple and takes a bite* Hey, at least I didn't try to take a chomp outta ya. ;P

 

[TheJestersAdvocate]

Well hell, I should at least TRY to get some rest.

Maybe back in a bit, take it easy ladies and gents.

*poof*

 

[ShyMystica]

Sadly, not enough people act accordingly. The romantic idea of "trust" and "betrayal" is too attractive for people to operate on a more practical level in their relationships. The result is heartbreak, needless heartbreak, between people who often care for one another and had only the best intentions.

In some cases, not all but a significant case, it seems as though people who enjoy being "victims" and people who enjoy being "heroes" fall into this trap with startling regularity. It's just too easy to say, "They betrayed my trust!" and too difficult to say, "I deluded myself with unreal expectations!".

Coming from a self confessed romantic, that makes a lot of sense. Too much actually.

Thank you for giving me some things to think on LI.