Ladies, Can You Pleas Straighten Me Out Here

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Dear, Dear Women:

I’m looking for some blunt, blunt honesty here, about women’s (lesbian, straight, bi, Dom, sub, . . .) gut level reactions to male humiliation.

First, here is a brief bio. to give you a rough idea of where I’m coming from:

I’m 48 y/o male, and since I hit puberty around 13 or so, my fantasy (and on occasion actual) life has naturally revolved around me being sexually humiliated—by a woman, or by a man at a dominant woman’s request (and in practice, frequently by a man where the woman involved was solely a fantasy creation in my mind—for me, sucking a cock when ordered to by a woman is incredible—sucking a cock without a woman’s direction is just, well, boring.) Originally pretty tame, over the years my fantasies have of course expanded and intensified: e.g. cuckoldry, forced cock and pussy worship, verbal humiliation, crème pies, incest, mom-dom, mom-in-law-dom, sissification, some pain . . . I’m sure you get the general idea. But, the humiliation stemming from some type of emasculation of me has always been the one constant. And just for the record: I’m not complaining; I don’t have the slightest idea where this proclivity of mine came from, and am / always have been at ease with it, and willing and able to enjoy it. We are who we are indeed.


Now I have always assumed that 99.9% of women would be disgusted and repulsed by a man who harbored such desires, let alone one who actually requested her to help bring them to life (and trust me, cuckold / humiliation fetishists understand early on that these desires can and usually do provoke intense hostility and intolerance in an awful lot of folks—so, not surprisingly, we are a naturally secretive lot. But the recent profusion of websites devoted to this subject makes it clear that ‘we’ are not nearly as rare as I once thought.) And, I have also assumed that women who actually did get involved in such, were either doing it for love—not lust (a bit like pinching your nose when taking cough syrup), or else were doing it for money. I’m not knocking either motive—to each her own. But since discovering the forums here at Literotica, I’ve begun to re-think some of my assumptions, and that perhaps the numbers of women who would (or at least could) genuinely get turned on by such male-humiliation themes (or actual scenes) might be higher than I’ve been thinking.

So ladies, please, please educate me. Is your instinctive reaction to this theme one of disgust? Confusion? Arousal? Contempt? Curiosity? Indifference . . . ?

Archer
(or occasionally: ‘Missy’)
 
Wrong forum, dude.

This one is all about LGBT issues and subjects. You know, the people who get treated like shit by society ALL THE FUCKING TIME and DON'T like it as opposed to str8 hetero males like you who just want to be treated like shit once in a while cuz they think it's fun then go back to their comfortable str8, male, entitled lives.

Try the Fetish and Sexuality Forum.
 
Wrong forum, dude.

This one is all about LGBT issues and subjects. You know, the people who get treated like shit by society ALL THE FUCKING TIME and DON'T like it as opposed to str8 hetero males like you who just want to be treated like shit once in a while cuz they think it's fun then go back to their comfortable str8, male, entitled lives.

Try the Fetish and Sexuality Forum.

I think that what Safe_Bet is trying to say is that she feels this post would, more appropriately be placed in the "fetish" category rather then the gay forum. (She's a little angry).

But there really is a whole slew of folk over there who are into the humiliation fetish- hell, apparently contrary to popular belief, some of us even like our emasculation to come at the hands of other, more powerful men. There are actually a couple of threads already moving steadily along on the subject, so, no, you're not alone. ;)

It's hard to find good tops, but they are out there. :rose:
 
I think that what Safe_Bet is trying to say is that she feels this post would, more appropriately be placed in the "fetish" category rather then the gay forum. (She's a little angry).

But there really is a whole slew of folk over there who are into the humiliation fetish- hell, apparently contrary to popular belief, some of us even like our emasculation to come at the hands of other, more powerful men. There are actually a couple of threads already moving steadily along on the subject, so, no, you're not alone. ;)

It's hard to find good tops, but they are out there. :rose:


No, dumbass... What I was TRYING to say was exactly what I said. I don't need some lying stalker dude to translate for me.
 
Safe Bet is correct, though, Lesbian women don't care about male humiliation, because they have no sexual interest in men. Bisexual women come to this forum to explore the other side of their sexuality, the side that is interested in women.

Women are expected to pay attention to men ALL THE TIME. It's already the default. Lesbian women come up against this expectation just as much as straight women do-- without any regard for their druthers. Gay folk engage in a never ending struggle for personal space inwhich they are not required to acknowledge the heteronorms first above everything else.

To demand women's attention here in the only forum that welcomes gayfolk, is inconsiderate at the very least. And wrath--producing to some of us, as you will notice, and suddenly-- you provide a handy target for a myriad of frustrations.

Your fetish belongs in the fetish forum.
 
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Safe Bet is correct, though, Lesbian women don't care about male humiliation, because they have no sexual interest in men. Bisexual women come to this forum to explore the other side of their sexuality, the side that is interested in women.

Women are expected to pay attention to men ALL THE TIME. It's already the default. Lesbian women come up against this expectation just as much as straight women do-- without any regard for their druthers. Gay folk engage in a never ending struggle for personal space inwhich they are not required to acknowledge the heteronorms first above everything else.

To demand women's attention here in the only forum that welcomes gayfolk, is inconsiderate at the very least. And wrath--producing to some of us, as you will notice, and suddenly-- you provide a handy target for a myriad of frustrations.

Your fetish belongs in the fetish forum.


Hi Stella-Omega

Indeed, and I have accordingly posted it there. So thanks for the heads-up. Actually I posted this in about 4 forums, because I was wanting as broad a spectrum of female opinions as I could get. Not because I was seeking their attention, per se, but because I want understanding, as I do about everything in this old world really. But what surprised me, is that while I certainly expected some hostility--this topic invariably generates some--I honestly expected that, given the endless cycles of shit that members of the GLBT community have to put up with all their lives for their sexual preferences, this would be the one forum where I could expect the least hostility. Instead, it easily generated to most; easily more than all the others combined. Fair enough, I have the hide of a rhinocerous, so no biggie. I just thought that people who have been considered 'outsiders' all their lives would have a natural and deeper empathy for another 'outsider', but apparently 'outsider' is a universal red-flag--regardless of the group in question.

Anyhow, apologies for stepping on anyones toes or turf--not my intention. For what it may be worth, you would have to go an awful long way to find a less judgmental person than myself. Thanks for the feedback and education from all.

MDW
 
Dude, I could give a shit whether you are judgemental or not. (and by the way you ARE or you wouldn't use ignorant ass phrases like sexual "preference". I don't "prefer" to be queer any more then you "prefer" to be stupid!). In fact, I don't give a shit about your hetero male ass at all. As Stella stated, I come here as a break from the constant barrage of hetero shit.

If I give a shit about anything it would be you thinking your had the right to invade one of the few non hetero places I have with your herto male fetish shit.
 
Now You've Done It

Dude, I could give a shit whether you are judgemental or not. (and by the way you ARE or you wouldn't use ignorant ass phrases like sexual "preference". I don't "prefer" to be queer any more then you "prefer" to be stupid!). In fact, I don't give a shit about your hetero male ass at all. As Stella stated, I come here as a break from the constant barrage of hetero shit.

If I give a shit about anything it would be you thinking your had the right to invade one of the few non hetero places I have with your herto male fetish shit.


OK, now you've done it--you've finally gone and given me a boner that just won't quit. And while I am grateful, I feel I should point out that we never once discussed any terms--so if you are planning on billing me for any of this, you can just forget it.

Missy
 
OK, now you've done it--you've finally gone and given me a boner that just won't quit. And while I am grateful, I feel I should point out that we never once discussed any terms--so if you are planning on billing me for any of this, you can just forget it.

Missy

LOL! Well played.
 
...I honestly expected that, given the endless cycles of shit that members of the GLBT community have to put up with all their lives for their sexual preferences, this would be the one forum where I could expect the least hostility...

MDW
yes, it's astonishing to me how many people expect all gay folk to be saintlier than any straight person would ever be expected to be. :rolleyes:

But you know what? being gay does not make a person any better or more compassionate or kinder than being straight does. It just makes them a person with a different sexual preference.

Nobody wants to be oppressed, and not so many folk have the spiritual tools to turn oppression into anything more than a life long problem that cannot always be solved, because there is an enormous population of straight people who work very hard to make sure we continue to face these problems.

Gay men die without their loved one by their side because someone else deems that partner to not be legal.
Gay men get killed for being gay.
Lesbians get raped to cure them of their lesbianism.

This is more than the kind of squick and disinterest that you face with your kink, it's an enormous codified persecution for something that we can not do anything to change.
I just thought that people who have been considered 'outsiders' all their lives would have a natural and deeper empathy for another 'outsider', but apparently 'outsider' is a universal red-flag--regardless of the group in question.
Gay folk step out on the street and find a world full of heteronormativity, to which they are not invited. it should be no surprise that they would want to guard their few sanctuaries for themselves-- if you think about it. And it's astonishing how often straight people demand gay privilege, as if there were such a thing. They just want to share the joy. :D
Anyhow, apologies for stepping on anyones toes or turf--not my intention. For what it may be worth, you would have to go an awful long way to find a less judgmental person than myself. Thanks for the feedback and education from all
OK, now you've done it--you've finally gone and given me a boner that just won't quit. And while I am grateful, I feel I should point out that we never once discussed any terms--so if you are planning on billing me for any of this, you can just forget it.
Okay, so:

You step on someone's toes. They say "GET OFF MY TOES!"
You say "oh, sorry, but i didn't know I was stepping on your toes."
They say "MY TOES HURT."
You step on their toes again. On purpose, this time.

What were you saying about being non-judgmental, and how gay folk should have had enough experience with oppression to make them tolerant and understanding?

I can see how well that's worked for you.
;)
 
LOL! Well played.

Wow. Y'all are exactly like two little boys patting each others back about how witty and brave they both are for having gotten away with writing stupid shit on the bathroom wall. Quelle surprise. :rolleyes:

Time to take your pimply, punk asses back to the Fetish Forum and continue your immature shit there, boys.
 
Wow. Y'all are exactly like two little boys patting each others back about how witty and brave they both are for having gotten away with writing stupid shit on the bathroom wall. Quelle surprise. :rolleyes:

Time to take your pimply, punk asses back to the Fetish Forum and continue your immature shit there, boys.

I find myself in agreement with you more often than you'd imagine, or like, however, vomiting up vitriol on folk who mean no harm is something I will never agree with. How do you expect people to react when you constantly spew that bile?

You may not like bi folk, but this is the GLBT board.
 
You may not like bi folk, but this is the GLBT board.


What ARE you talking about, dude?

Please show me where I mentioned anything about the OPs orientation other that pointing out wanting to be cuckolded, dominated by his mommy and/or being dressed like a sissy and insulted have nothing at all to do with sexual orientation.

If you are trying to say that any of those fetishes have any relationship to being Bi you are an even bigger dumbass then I first supposed.
 
What ARE you talking about, dude?

Please show me where I mentioned anything about the OPs orientation other that pointing out wanting to be cuckolded, dominated by his mommy and/or being dressed like a sissy and insulted have nothing at all to do with sexual orientation.

If you are trying to say that any of those fetishes have any relationship to being Bi you are an even bigger dumbass then I first supposed.

Relationship? Maybe not. But there is certainly overlap.

So the guy posted on the wrong board? Big deal...happens all the time, and people manage to redirect the poster without being inflamatory and insulting.
 
Relationship? Maybe not. But there is certainly overlap.

So the guy posted on the wrong board? Big deal...happens all the time, and people manage to redirect the poster without being inflamatory and insulting.


Dude, contrary to your misguided and ignorant statement there is no connection of ANY KIND between someone's orientation and their choice of kinks. To imply there is is SERIOUSLY past ludicrise!

As for your other semi-point, the OP stated himself that he puposely and knowingly posted in a LGBT forum. He even went so far as to address it to lesbians and Bi women spicifically, while at the same time knowing and expecting hostility for his actions.

Stop apologizing and stop making excuses for your fellow man's behavior and stop bitching and whining every time a woman says something to some dude. Your misogynism is showing.
 
. Your misogynism is showing.

Hardly. I would take issue with anyone, male or female, who consistently acted like a junkyard dog on the end of a chain.

And btw, my name's not "dude", and that's ludicrous.
 
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Is there ever a thread where safe bet doesn't come off as a c*nt with a tampon stuck up her ass?

Just curious.
 
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No, she is never civil.
No, she never is civil. I agree with that.

What astonishes me over and over is the way that people are so surprised that a lesbian would be that angry. It's almost... hurtful in itself, that surprise.

It shows that someone hasn't been paying much attention to the people he is now demanding attention from.
 
No, she never is civil. I agree with that.

What astonishes me over and over is the way that people are so surprised that a lesbian would be that angry. It's almost... hurtful in itself, that surprise.

It shows that someone hasn't been paying much attention to the people he is now demanding attention from.

It's surprising, because she's the only lesbian I've encountered that acts like that. I understand being angry at someone who has done you wrong, but hating an entire group of people because of the actions of a few leaves me shaking my head. Hating me for what I am is as wrong as hating her for what she is. Tolerance has got to be a two-way street.

Non-sequitur: I've made a lot of online acquaintances over the years, and in all cases, I felt like, whatever our differences, we could sit down over coffee or a beer, and chat amiably. SB is the lone exception: she would be mad at me, no matter what I said.
 
I find myself in agreement with you more often than you'd imagine, or like, however, vomiting up vitriol on folk who mean no harm is something I will never agree with. How do you expect people to react when you constantly spew that bile?

You may not like bi folk, but this is the GLBT board.

Bile? Silly you.
She is right, wrong forum. Don't get mad when the lesbian kicks you in the vagina for posting dumb shit.
 
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