Politics and the US Economy

[RightField]

The Bush Tax cuts were temporary as well.

Nobody gives a fuck about your dumbshit labeling and distortion.

Bush's were proposed to be permanent but the dems would only agree to 10 years. Obamadepression's were proposed to be short term...year or two. Big difference.

Go whine somewhere else.

 

[mercury14]

I have nothing to say about medicare. Go whine somewhere else.

Oh yes you do. Just look at what you quoted;;

Chris Christie said:

Obama is "telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others," Christie said. He's "insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the American Dream."

Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=208935#ixzz1ZI7YGRST

That's your philosophy too is it not? Then you should have something to say about the trillions in Medicare spending we have that's only made possible by "diminishing the success of others" and "demonizing those who have already achieved the American Dream". The Medicare tax does far more to diminish others than Obama's tax increase on millionaires.

 

[mercury14]

Bush's were proposed to be permanent but the dems would only agree to 10 years. Obamadepression's were proposed to be short term...year or two. Big difference.

Go whine somewhere else.

No, Republicans wanted an imaginary bill that never existed. But since we're talking about what actually passed and not fantasy land, you have no point at all.

 

[mercury14]

That's too bad, we need more of it in this world.

You don't have to read them. I'm sure you've got lots of constructive other things to do. You could start with returning the money that people lost on Solyndra, that will keep you busy for a while.

How about repaying the GM creditors, that's another few billion. Go to it or cease your crusades.

You don't give a shit about government waste. You only care about your extremist agenda.

If you gave a shit about government waste you'd be carrying on about Bush-era reconstruction money that "vanished" in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's about forty Solyndras right there.

Instead you're engaging in your usual bullshit selective outrage that only applies when Democrats are in power. Then you have the nerve to call yourself non-partisan. (he really said that folks!)

 

[RightField]

You don't give a shit about government waste. You only care about your extremist agenda.

If you gave a shit about government waste you'd be carrying on about Bush-era reconstruction money that "vanished" in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's about forty Solyndras right there.

Instead you're engaging in your usual bullshit selective outrage that only applies when Democrats are in power. Then you have the nerve to call yourself non-partisan. (he really said that folks!)

Actually, I did a lot about those problems in Iraq and Afghanistan...and...btw, it continued while Obama became the commander-in-chief. However, it still didn't approach the damage that Obama has done to our economy and the depredations that has caused to our own citizens.

I care about doing something good for America, to restore our honor and our economy that's suffered so badly during these years of democratic negligent mismanagement.

 

[mercury14]

Actually, I did a lot about those problems in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, it still didn't approach the damage that Obama has done to our economy and the depredations that has caused to our own citizens.

When? Government missing money in Iraq and Afghanistan is dozens of times greater than Solyndra. Was the stink you made about that in proportion to the losses?

Please show me your weeks of C&P tsunamis where you railed against Bush-era missing money. Because that's what you're doing with this much smaller loss.

 

[RightField]

Oh yes you do. Just look at what you quoted;;

That's your philosophy too is it not? Then you should have something to say about the trillions in Medicare spending we have that's only made possible by "diminishing the success of others" and "demonizing those who have already achieved the American Dream". The Medicare tax does far more to diminish others than Obama's tax increase on millionaires.

Quite a stretch on your part...so much that I think I'll just ignore you.

 

[RightField]

When? Government missing money in Iraq and Afghanistan is dozens of times greater than Solyndra. Was the stink you made about that in proportion to the losses?

Please show me your weeks of C&P tsunamis where you railed against Bush-era missing money. Because that's what you're doing with this much smaller loss.

It wasn't here, it was somewhere else and I don't need to prove anything to you. You're just here to cause confusion and I'd rather not play your game.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

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[RightField]

[/QUOTE] How about this for a plan...why don't we all work together to create more wealth for the nation (get back to growing GDP) than worry about who we're going to take money from to send to the next Solyndra?

 

[Sean Renaud]

How about this for a plan...why don't we all work together to create more wealth for the nation (get back to growing GDP) than worry about who we're going to take money from to send to the next Solyndra?

Because you need money to start businesses and start growing the GDP. Unless you've got a plan to turn nothing into something we have to take money from people who have it and send it to people who don't in order to get this thing moving again.

 

[mercury14]

It wasn't here, it was somewhere else and I don't need to prove anything to you. You're just here to cause confusion and I'd rather not play your game.

Oh so you never did.

Why not? You've been here since 2003 calling out every nickel of waste under Democrats. You've had ample opportunities to give your opinion on tens of billions of dollars of not just waste - but "vanished" money.

Instead you choose to focus on a piece of waste that's comparatively tiny. Admit it - you're merely engaging in selective outrage to advance your political agenda. It's been thoroughly illustrated - why do you keep denying it?

 

[RightField]

Because you need money to start businesses and start growing the GDP. Unless you've got a plan to turn nothing into something we have to take money from people who have it and send it to people who don't in order to get this thing moving again.

Money always finds good ideas and initiatives. Dell started in a garage and so did Microsoft.

 

[mercury14]

Quite a stretch on your part...so much that I think I'll just ignore you.

... but you just can't say why it's a stretch, huh?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

How about this for a plan...why don't we all work together to create more wealth for the nation (get back to growing GDP) than worry about who we're going to take money from to send to the next Solyndra?

I can dig that.

 

[mercury14]

Money always finds good ideas and initiatives.

Demonstrably false.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Money always finds good ideas and initiatives. Dell started in a garage and so did Microsoft.

Money doesn't always find good ideas and initiatives for starters. That's just BS that you've been told. It's not that it's impossible it's that it's unlikely to start in a garage and grow to be something that is going to become a huge company.

It takes money to make money. Hell right now the Right is fighting to make sure that your money can keep making money faster than you can earn it because work is what stupid people do.

 

[RightField]

Money doesn't always find good ideas and initiatives for starters. That's just BS that you've been told. It's not that it's impossible it's that it's unlikely to start in a garage and grow to be something that is going to become a huge company.

It takes money to make money. Hell right now the Right is fighting to make sure that your money can keep making money faster than you can earn it because work is what stupid people do.

Money doesn't find stupid ideas, only good ideas. There's the rub.

I think it takes good ideas, smart investors and lots of initiative to make a success. There's lots of successful people and enterprises in the US despite the Obamadepression's best efforts to eliminate success.

 

[mercury14]

Money doesn't find stupid ideas, only good ideas. There's the rub.

Where do you get this horse pucky? Is this part of your daily marching orders from WND or are you just making it up?

 

[miles]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Renaud
Because you need money to start businesses and start growing the GDP. Unless you've got a plan to turn nothing into something we have to take money from people who have it and send it to people who don't in order to get this thing moving again.

Are you really that stupid?

 

[mercury14]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Renaud
Because you need money to start businesses and start growing the GDP. Unless you've got a plan to turn nothing into something we have to take money from people who have it and send it to people who don't in order to get this thing moving again.

Are you really that stupid?

Shouldn't you b asking this of your buddy Rightfield? He's sitting here declaring that money doesn't find stupid ideas.

Pets.com? Enron pissing away its $90 billion net worth on failed speculation and futures that it never should have been involved in in the first place? Chrysler manufacturing way too many Sebrings while failing to adjust to very high demand for PT Cruisers? Those are somehow all examples of money finding its way into good ideas.

 

[Solid Muldoon]

"Job creators."

Bwah hah hah hah ha!

 

[RightField]

When? Government missing money in Iraq and Afghanistan is dozens of times greater than Solyndra. Was the stink you made about that in proportion to the losses?

Please show me your weeks of C&P tsunamis where you railed against Bush-era missing money. Because that's what you're doing with this much smaller loss.

False equivalency on your part. The money that went into Iraq and Afghanistan was put into brigade commanders hands to rebuild destroyed parts of the country. It went into rebuilding schools, but also into new sidewalks and things like that. The fact that soldiers didn't "account" for it well doesn't mean it was wasted, lost or stolen....or put into the hands of campaign contributors to rescue them from a plainly bad investment through pressure on the government by the President of the United States in a political grandstanding effort.

 

[RightField]

Money doesn't always find good ideas and initiatives for starters. That's just BS that you've been told. It's not that it's impossible it's that it's unlikely to start in a garage and grow to be something that is going to become a huge company.

It takes money to make money. Hell right now the Right is fighting to make sure that your money can keep making money faster than you can earn it because work is what stupid people do.

You're right. Money does find bad ideas, but fewer of them than what government invests in.

New Coke, for example, was a bad idea.

However, decisions made in the private sector are far less often politically motivated like most of the decisions made by this administration (GM, Solyndra, etc).

 

[RobDownSouth]

Bad Mercury14! BAD!

Where do you get this horse pucky? Is this part of your daily marching orders from WND or are you just making it up?

Classic False Dilemma.

Who says he can't do both?