What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[NeverEndingMe]

Merc brings a Super Soaker to all of his gunfights.

sadly, his other "super soaker" doens't work

 

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[trysail]

...Almost every program, monetary and fiscal, has been designed to entice or even force Americans to borrow and spend. Setting interest rates at zero robs savers of any income. It forces them to take added risks to generate any return at all at a time when they want to reduce risk. It tries to push them to borrow in order to buy a home falling in value rather than rent. New rules raise the cost of debit cards pushing issuers and consumers toward the more dangerous and expensive credit cards. At the same time new rules and regulations increase the cost of doing business, raise unit labor costs, reduce productivity and stifle hiring. Banks raised additional capital and are now as well capitalized as they have been in a generation. But regulators restrict lending to all but the best credits. Small business has been virtually shut out of opportunities to raise capital for expansion...

 

[JohnnySavage]

...Almost every program, monetary and fiscal, has been designed to entice or even force Americans to borrow and spend. Setting interest rates at zero robs savers of any income. It forces them to take added risks to generate any return at all at a time when they want to reduce risk. It tries to push them to borrow in order to buy a home falling in value rather than rent. New rules raise the cost of debit cards pushing issuers and consumers toward the more dangerous and expensive credit cards. At the same time new rules and regulations increase the cost of doing business, raise unit labor costs, reduce productivity and stifle hiring. Banks raised additional capital and are now as well capitalized as they have been in a generation. But regulators restrict lending to all but the best credits. Small business has been virtually shut out of opportunities to raise capital for expansion...

It's pretty easy to find a very safe bond fund that reliably pays 7-8%. If you are a "saver" you're an idiot. Why would you loan a bank money at 0.5% so they can invest it and make 10%?

 

[richard_daily]

Learn what the definition of inflation is before posting, There was no inflation while we had the gold standard, except for Lincoln's greenback printing during the Civil War.

There was no inflation, because there was no growth...

There was no growth because we were stuck on the gold standard.

And here you are, asking to go back to zero growth.

What a g-nee-us.

 

[richard_daily]

...Almost every program, monetary and fiscal, has been designed to entice or even force Americans to borrow and spend. Setting interest rates at zero robs savers of any income. It forces them to take added risks to generate any return at all at a time when they want to reduce risk. It tries to push them to borrow in order to buy a home falling in value rather than rent. New rules raise the cost of debit cards pushing issuers and consumers toward the more dangerous and expensive credit cards. At the same time new rules and regulations increase the cost of doing business, raise unit labor costs, reduce productivity and stifle hiring. Banks raised additional capital and are now as well capitalized as they have been in a generation. But regulators restrict lending to all but the best credits. Small business has been virtually shut out of opportunities to raise capital for expansion...

But this isn't something new. This has been going on since well before even you were born.

What system would you recommend replace what we currently have? Surely you're not advocating a return to the gold standard too.

 

[busybody..]

It's pretty easy to find a very safe bond fund that reliably pays 7-8%. If you are a "saver" you're an idiot. Why would you loan a bank money at 0.5% so they can invest it and make 10%?

there is NO SAFE BOND fund that pays that much

 

[JohnnySavage]

there is NO SAFE BOND fund that pays that much

FIBAX BC US Treasury 5-10 Year
1 Year 6.32 6.58
3 Year 8.09 8.32
5 Year 8.22 8.38
Life 7.47 N/A




FIBIX BC US Treasury 5-10 Year
1 Year 6.21 6.58
3 Year 7.98 8.32
5 Year 8.11 8.38
Life 7.36 N/A

FAGIX BofA ML US HY Const
1 Year 10.38 8.15
3 Year 12.05 11.95
5 Year 8.55 8.19
10 Year 9.79 8.34

 

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[busybody..]

FIBAX BC US Treasury 5-10 Year
1 Year 6.32 6.58
3 Year 8.09 8.32
5 Year 8.22 8.38
Life 7.47 N/A




FIBIX BC US Treasury 5-10 Year
1 Year 6.21 6.58
3 Year 7.98 8.32
5 Year 8.11 8.38
Life 7.36 N/A

FAGIX BofA ML US HY Const
1 Year 10.38 8.15
3 Year 12.05 11.95
5 Year 8.55 8.19
10 Year 9.79 8.34

what are those?

why would ANYONE buy 30 yr bonds at 3% or so if they can get THOSE

SAFELY?

Oh, the last one is Merrill Bank of America HOUSING? THATS SAFE?

Comon

What is FAG IX?

Is that like FAG ICKS?

 

[koalabear]

what are those?

why would ANYONE buy 30 yr bonds at 3% or so if they can get THOSE

SAFELY?

Oh, the last one is Merrill Bank of America HOUSING? THATS SAFE?

Comon

What is FAG IX?

Is that like FAG ICKS?

mercmoron type post, no links just take my word for it.

 

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[mercury14]

Yeah you never see me link anything, do you?

Like when I linked and sourced that the cost of the wars Republicans didn't think we should pay for - and you abjectly failed to dispute one single elements of the calculation.

No I definitely didn't source that. Basic undeniable facts that you don't even deny somehow do not alter your distorted thinking though, do they? Facts just make you two hold into your misconceptions even harder. You're the very essence of irrationality.

 

[koalabear]

Yeah you never see me link anything, do you?

Like when I linked and sourced that the cost of the wars Republicans didn't think we should pay for - and you abjectly failed to dispute one single elements of the calculation.

No I definitely didn't source that. Basic undeniable facts that you don't even deny somehow do not alter your distorted thinking though, do they? Facts just make you two hold into your misconceptions even harder. You're the very essence of irrationality.

Fuck off UD/MercMORON. Facts are you are a large waste of humanity, MORON.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yeah you never see me link anything, do you?

Like when I linked and sourced that the cost of the wars Republicans didn't think we should pay for - and you abjectly failed to dispute one single elements of the calculation.

No I definitely didn't source that. Basic undeniable facts that you don't even deny somehow do not alter your distorted thinking though, do they? Facts just make you two hold into your misconceptions even harder. You're the very essence of irrationality.

And let's not forget Vetty telling us President Obama was spendin' 200 million dollars per day on his state visit to India.

He'll believe any "fact" if it reflects poorly on President Obama and/or the Democratic party.

 

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[trysail]

FIBAX BC US Treasury 5-10 Year
1 Year 6.32 6.58
3 Year 8.09 8.32
5 Year 8.22 8.38
Life 7.47 N/A




FIBIX BC US Treasury 5-10 Year
1 Year 6.21 6.58
3 Year 7.98 8.32
5 Year 8.11 8.38
Life 7.36 N/A

FAGIX BofA ML US HY Const
1 Year 10.38 8.15
3 Year 12.05 11.95
5 Year 8.55 8.19
10 Year 9.79 8.34

That ain't "safe." It ain't even close. Besides, it's FIDO and I don't touch anything connected with FIDO. Mangement fee, 0.57%, expense ratio 0.76% ? No, thank you.

If I do a mutual fund, give me Vanguard ( VWEAX, in this case — expense ratio 0.13% ) everytime.

 

[richard_daily]

What? You didn't here about the Industrial Revolution, Manifest Destiny, the move west, coast to coast railroads, Millions on the move, wealth created everywhere, cities and towns popping up all over the place, the Golden Age of American growth and development? How did they afford all of this, when we were "stuck on the gold standard?"³

Frankly Richard, you aren't schooled enough to comment on the subject.

That was wealth re-distribution... something you claim to be against.

 

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[koalabear]

You're full of shit.

and dateless, lit's stud Chihuahua strikes out again on a Friday night.

 

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[NeverEndingMe]

we need the rich to pay more!

corporate taxes are too low, we must tax them more!

personal income tax is too low, we must tax those bastards more!

quote from the obama regime:

we can't trust people to spend their own money wisely. we must tax them, and spend their money. after all, we are the obama regime as we know what's best! just look at our track record on green energy!

Yeah you never see me link anything, do you?

Like when I linked and sourced that the cost of the wars Republicans didn't think we should pay for - and you abjectly failed to dispute one single elements of the calculation.

No I definitely didn't source that. Basic undeniable facts that you don't even deny somehow do not alter your distorted thinking though, do they? Facts just make you two hold into your misconceptions even harder. You're the very essence of irrationality.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

That was wealth re-distribution... something you claim to be against.

simpleton, how sad RD

 

[RobDownSouth]

You're full of shit.

There's that scat fixation again!
http://www.photorox.com/images/robdownsouth/vway.jpg

 

[Beco]

And let's not forget Vetty telling us President Obama was spendin' 200 million dollars per day on his state visit to India.

He'll believe any "fact" if it reflects poorly on President Obama and/or the Democratic party.

As you with GW Bush.....come on man