The Construction Thread

[Shagly]

When framing new 2 In.x6 In. walls with new lumber the building code around N.Y. does not require horizontal fire stops in the walls yet Vermont requires them, the studs are 16 In. apart, horizontal fire stops do not stop a wall fire they just slow it down, as for earthquake swaying I dought they do much.

 

[Shagly]

It does give new meaning to the concept of a "flying buttress," doesn't it ?

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/0f/b0f3c1f6-e10e-5900-84bf-ee914cac84d2/4e69494f2f34c.preview-300.jpg

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Where is OSHA when you need them?

 

[thør]

No, there aren't as many, but the geotechs always end up in court. As long as you have some good defendable paperwork, you will probably be alright though. Unless you were negligent.

But it costs us a whole shit ton of money in overhead just being involved in any lawsuit.

There is no statute of limitations in my state. Lawyers expect you to see into the future. You can always play it safe. Don't be innovative or try anything new.

When framing new 2 In.x6 In. walls with new lumber the building code around N.Y. does not require horizontal fire stops in the walls yet Vermont requires them, the studs are 16 In. apart, horizontal fire stops do not stop a wall fire they just slow it down, as for earthquake swaying I dought they do much.

Remember that building codes are minimum requirements.

 

[lovetoinstruct]

There is no statute of limitations in my state. Lawyers expect you to see into the future. You can always play it safe. Don't be innovative or try anything new.



Remember that building codes are minimum requirements.

Here, its all about what is reasonable - that is how our system works. IF you did everything that a reasonable engineer would do, you are mostly in the clear, unless there is some other strange thing going on.

 

[trysail]

Where is OSHA when you need them?

In either (1) a meeting or (2) at a symposium or (3) attending a continuing education course or (4) at an EEO seminar or (5) shuffling paper or (6) writing new regulations or (7) some other waste of time.

 

[thør]

In either (1) a meeting or (2) at a symposium or (3) attending a continuing education course or (4) at an EEO seminar or (5) shuffling paper or (6) writing new regulations or (7) some other waste of time.

For sure, they were crawling all over that site AFTER the crane tipped. There will be a fine.

 

[chillywilly2]

Hmm, mine is in the mail, I'm not sure what it says just yet. Anyway, saw another engineer from up this way and wanted to say hey.

You can get an engineering license in the mail...wow...here we gotta go to school for 4 or 5 years to get one

 

[chillywilly2]

For sure, they were crawling all over that site AFTER the crane tipped. There will be a fine.

And then it will depend on if it was a government site or not who gets charged and with what.

 

[thør]

You can get an engineering license in the mail...wow...here we gotta go to school for 4 or 5 years to get one

Note that that was quoted from a Canuck! Sears Roebuck catalog?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Renovation/interior alteration sucks.

 

[thør]

Renovation/interior alteration sucks.

Yup, but it all pays the same.

 

[lovetoinstruct]

Note that that was quoted from a Canuck! Sears Roebuck catalog?

Well, yeah, they send you a fancy little certificate to hang on the wall in the mail. Here you have to do 4 years of school and then 4 years of work experience though. Then you have to find that damn catalogue. 4 years of school only gets you that fancy ring.

 

[Saint Peter]

I know of very few that are doing it in 4 years.

 

[lovetoinstruct]

I know of very few that are doing it in 4 years.

I can only really speak from my own experience, but I used 8 months of pre-grad experience (I took a co-op program).

Are you seeing them get it sooner or later than 4 years?

 

[HAL_9000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c&ob=av3e


In construction you always end up down in a hole at some point or another.

 

[rosco rathbone]

first time for everything

I've worked on these things up to about 40 feet, but never off the side of a highrise until today. One of those "I can't believe I'm doing this stupid shit" moments, but you sort of get used to it as long as you don't dwell on the fact that you're hanging in midair.

http://www.elcosh.org/record/images/254-72.jpg

 

[Fuckette]

http://www.irasperipheralvisions.com/WetPaint/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/skydancer_web_start_7.jpg​

 

[rosco rathbone]

http://www.irasperipheralvisions.com/WetPaint/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/skydancer_web_start_7.jpg​

Cool, I'll have to check that out.

 

[sweepthefloor]

This distracts me.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

My knees go to jello in some situations. I don't see getting over it.

 

[rosco rathbone]

My knees go to jello in some situations. I don't see getting over it.

My knees were total jello inside, but firstyear apprentices were watching so I had to act like I'd done it a million times.

 

[chillywilly2]

My knees were total jello inside, but firstyear apprentices were watching so I had to act like I'd done it a million times.

fucking union jobs

 

[Wat_Tyler]

My knees were total jello inside, but firstyear apprentices were watching so I had to act like I'd done it a million times.

I do the same thing when working around noobies. I bust my ass working them silly and then come home and hurt in places I had forgotten that I own.

 

[rosco rathbone]

fucking union jobs

What, you mean paying a kid nineteen bucks an hour to wander around all day with a pad and paper saying "what do you want for afternoon coffee?"

I do the same thing when working around noobies. I bust my ass working them silly and then come home and hurt in places I had forgotten that I own.

haha yes, it's important to give them that "what the fuck did I get myself into feeling"....everyone has had it.

 

[thør]

I do the same thing when working around noobies. I bust my ass working them silly and then come home and hurt in places I had forgotten that I own.

When I go out into the field, I always make sure to be dressed warm and smart enough to outlast the youngsters when outside.