Union Thugs Riot in Longview, Washington!

[miles]

I don't see this in a single media outlet.

One word: Google.

 

[JohnnySavage]

http://moonbattracker.com/wordpress/?p=2186

A grain storage elevator company tried to hire non union workers and a riot, destruction and arrests were the outcome.

The Union scourge is everywhere!

amicus

As usual, you are wrong.

"The International Longshore and Warehouse Union believes it has the right to work at the facility, but the company has hired a contractor that’s staffing a workforce of other union laborers."

The ILWU was fighting because another union was doing their jobs.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So, when you want to say, I don't trust your link, I think that's shorthand for I don't like the direction of the story, probably for partisan reasons, so I won't bother to research it.

Amicus' link is a classic example of right wing news being "Hannitized For Your Protection""

1. There is a he-said, she-said union/management conflict in Washington
2. Shrill extreme right wing harpy Michelle Malkin rewrites the story to demonize the union
3. Some anonymous blogger further dumbs the story down by cherry picking Malkin, in essence editorializing about another editorial
4. Amicus, at the bottom of the right wing hate food-chain, editorializes about the editorial about the editorial.
5. ...and finally you make your triumphant appearance after the smoke clears, tut-tutting those who would take issue at the lack of balance in the story

Bottom line: you and your kind take intellectual dishonesty to new heights every day, and scream and pout like little girls when people point this out.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

so, you support union members destroying equipment?

why are union members so mentally challenged? to join a union, does one have to have the mentality of a 3rd grader?

Amicus' link is a classic example of right wing news being "Hannitized For Your Protection""

1. There is a he-said, she-said union/management conflict in Washington
2. Shrill extreme right wing harpy Michelle Malkin rewrites the story to demonize the union
3. Some anonymous blogger further dumbs the story down by cherry picking Malkin, in essence editorializing about another editorial
4. Amicus, at the bottom of the right wing hate food-chain, editorializes about the editorial about the editorial.
5. ...and finally you make your triumphant appearance after the smoke clears, tut-tutting those who would take issue at the lack of balance in the story

Bottom line: you and your kind take intellectual dishonesty to new heights every day, and scream and pout like little girls when people point this out.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

"THEY" don't have a right to work at that facility. the company has the RIGHT to decide who they hire and WHO they fire!

its just that simple

I feel sorry for losers like you

As usual, you are wrong.

"The International Longshore and Warehouse Union believes it has the right to work at the facility, but the company has hired a contractor that’s staffing a workforce of other union laborers."

The ILWU was fighting because another union was doing their jobs.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The ILWU was fighting because another union was doing their jobs.

Yeah, a bunch of lapdogs. Classic union busting tactics "wha??? we're not breaking the unions!" Next step is making all new hires undergo a year long probation and insituting a two tier pay scale, old hands grandfathered in of course.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Yeah, a bunch of lapdogs. Classic union busting tactics "wha??? we're not breaking the unions!" Next step is making all new hires undergo a year long probation and insituting a two tier pay scale, old hands grandfathered in of course.

It said it was the "Operating Engineers"

Isn't that a big union?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Yeah, a bunch of lapdogs. Classic union busting tactics "wha??? we're not breaking the unions!" Next step is making all new hires undergo a year long probation and insituting a two tier pay scale, old hands grandfathered in of course.

how can you support any union? unions are for people who are lazy and have no skills. you get paid the same amount as the slacker to your left! why on earth would you want that. it should be if you do more, have more skills and can do more for the company you get paid more. current, as a union member you accept pay based on the lowest common slacker on your job site. sad

 

[rosco rathbone]

It said it was the "Operating Engineers"

Isn't that a big union?

Big is not always good, and locals vary. The contractor using union operators is a subsidiary of Kiewit, a giant construction firm, and they no doubt have a very cozy relationship with that union. The Longshoremen on the other hand have a very long history of being feisty.

 

[radepor]

Nobody gets off without blame

Labor ain't my favorite entity, despite my previous posts; for example, I was not one bit happy when my father, driven to distraction by an annoying rattle in his new 1983 Buick, dismantled the air-conditioning system and discovered an empty beer can in the air-conditioning ducts. A zillion dollars an hour for a drunk autoworker protected by a union doesn't sit well.

Business ain't my favorite entity either; while Labor has a comfortable suite for their lobbyists in Washington, labor is just labor; the Chamber of Commerce counterbalances Labor. Every other industry, businesses within the industry and their stepchildren has 50 lobbyists buying representatives and senators for every congressperson purchased by labor.

Politicians aren't evil; they are driven to seek and retain their jobs just like eveyone else and our system enables/forces them to do things we'd prefer they didn't do. I love a line from movie: Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.

Ultimately, WE bare the responsibility; we vote for our politicians, we work for, or purchase the goods produced by, a business. We join/support unions.

It's hard for individuals to change business: it's hard to change labor. It's easier to change politicians - and it's more effective. Hard Left liberals and Hard Right conservatives don't get much done - oh, yea; the Tea Party got something done, but it was paralysis. However, it's moderate liberals and moderate conservatives that find a way to work together in politics despite their differences. We need to elect more moderates.

One would be remiss if one did not point out the correlation between demand and the regulation and growth of government; look at what the green jobs did, it stole (future) capital from the economy and threw it at failed enterprises because government does not make researched economic bets, it makes calculated political bets, thus we have the Volt, which nobody is buying, at great cost, because saving Union jobs were more important than letting the markets adjust to economic reality. It's not the CEOs who are to blame, but those in Washington DC writing the rules for them to follow; it's why they are sitting on trillions in cash, keeping trillions parked offshore and not hiring; they still remember what Obama said to Joe, the Plumber, they heard Maxine Waters:


They pay attention to Obama's economic thinking instead of hoping that he's a success and that he can return unions to their proper place...

Q: You favor an increase in the capital gains tax, saying, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton, which was 28%.” It’s now 15%. That’s almost a doubling if you went to 28%. Bill Clinton dropped the capital gains tax to 20%, then George Bush has taken it down to 15%. And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28%, the revenues went down.
A: What I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. The top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year--$29 billion for 50 individuals. Those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That’s not fair.
Q: But history shows that when you drop the capital gains tax, the revenues go up.
A: Well, that might happen or it might not. It depends on what’s happening on Wall Street and how business is going.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
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In a Libertarian Society, Unions are a necessary good that improves productivity.
In a Socialist Society, Unions are a redundant evil that reduces productivity.
A_J, the Stupid

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

It said it was the "Operating Engineers"

Isn't that a big union?

http://iuoe.org/

 

[RobDownSouth]

Q: But history shows that when you drop the capital gains tax, the revenues go up.
A: Well, that might happen or it might not. It depends on what’s happening on Wall Street and how business is going.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary Apr 16, 2008
A_J, the Stupid

Still peddlin' that discredited claptrap, AJ?

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Big is not always good, and locals vary. The contractor using union operators is a subsidiary of Kiewit, a giant construction firm, and they no doubt have a very cozy relationship with that union. The Longshoremen on the other hand have a very long history of being feisty.

So the ILWU steps in and wages war against another labor union? And bring their kids with them? Holding people hostage, busting up things, and endangering the lives of others? Yea, great job these 'unions' are doing there.

 

[rosco rathbone]

So the ILWU steps in and wages war against another labor union? And bring their kids with them? Holding people hostage, busting up things, and endangering the lives of others? Yea, great job these 'unions' are doing there.

Class war is ugly shit, homes.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So the ILWU steps in and wages war against another labor union? And bring their kids with them? Holding people hostage, busting up things, and endangering the lives of others? Yea, great job these 'unions' are doing there.

think of how much better it would be, if they hired non-union workers.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Class war is ugly shit, homes.

class war is what the obama wants

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You might want to investigate King's connections to labor and his views on same before throwing his name around.

King's movement was nonviolent, Bull was violent.

I abhor violence in protest, for it is a feral act. I respect you, but I do not respect your stand on this issue. These union workers, in destroying property and disobeying a judges orders are acting as criminals, thugs, or SA goons.

Peaceful protest and dialog are the only proper response unless, of course, you're prepared for John Brown and a civil war, for the only anti-dote to violence is harsher measure...

 

[NeverEndingMe]

the union, leaders, and the members must pay to fix/replace the equipment they destroyed, they also need some quality jail time

King's movement was nonviolent, Bull was violent.

I abhor violence in protest, for it is a feral act. I respect you, but I do not respect your stand on this issue. These union workers, in destroying property and disobeying a judges orders are acting as criminals, thugs, or SA goons.

Peaceful protest and dialog are the only proper response unless, of course, you're prepared for John Brown and a civil war, for the only anti-dote to violence is harsher measure...

 

[rosco rathbone]

King's movement was nonviolent, Bull was violent.

I abhor violence in protest, for it is a feral act. I respect you, but I do not respect your stand on this issue. These union workers, in destroying property and disobeying a judges orders are acting as criminals, thugs, or SA goons.

Peaceful protest and dialog are the only proper response unless, of course, you're prepared for John Brown and a civil war, for the only anti-dote to violence is harsher measure...

Admirable sentiments, but the gains of labor, which are enjoyed by all workers union or non (and are now taken for granted by a populace totally uneducated in labor history) were indeed the result of a civil war.

King's movement was nonviolent, but he was standing on the shoulders of a labor movement that was far from nonviolent.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

are all union members bullies? have the EIQ of a 5 year old? ever time the union and members don't get their way, they go on a violent rampage.

what's wrong with these union fucktards?

they belong in jail

King's movement was nonviolent, Bull was violent.

I abhor violence in protest, for it is a feral act. I respect you, but I do not respect your stand on this issue. These union workers, in destroying property and disobeying a judges orders are acting as criminals, thugs, or SA goons.

Peaceful protest and dialog are the only proper response unless, of course, you're prepared for John Brown and a civil war, for the only anti-dote to violence is harsher measure...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

how can you support any union? unions are for people who are lazy and have no skills. you get paid the same amount as the slacker to your left! why on earth would you want that. it should be if you do more, have more skills and can do more for the company you get paid more. current, as a union member you accept pay based on the lowest common slacker on your job site. sad

Unions have their uses.

If you need skilled people for work, out back of beyond, unions furnish the people you need. If youre new to town and need a dozen or 100 skilled people, the union can help you out immediately. If you need skilled people for one day one week or one month, unions get the job done for you.

Where unions fuck up is sending out drunks and druggies and assholes. Man! I was on a job site where the contractor came out and stabbed a violent mother fucker to get rid of him. The SOB caused nuthin but trouble and the union looked the other way. When he threatened the contractor with a screwdriver, the contractor buried a knife in the mans chest.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Class war is ugly shit, homes.

No doubt. I am not completely against unions. I seriously doubt I will ever join one. I believe at some point in time, they served a viable and useful purpose. There has to be a limit though.

Strong arm tactics and forcing non-union workers to join while simultaneously destroying the property of the very place they claim they want to 'work' is kind of contradictory isn't it?

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

Unions have their uses.

If you need skilled people for work, out back of beyond, unions furnish the people you need. If youre new to town and need a dozen or 100 skilled people, the union can help you out immediately. If you need skilled people for one day one week or one month, unions get the job done for you.

Where unions fuck up is sending out drunks and druggies and assholes. Man! I was on a job site where the contractor came out and stabbed a violent mother fucker to get rid of him. The SOB caused nuthin but trouble and the union looked the other way. When he threatened the contractor with a screwdriver, the contractor buried a knife in the mans chest.

The last paragraph is the sort of thing that bothers me about labor unions.

When I was a kid, my father got a pretty decent job for a construction company. It was one of the few times in my childhood we were doing good financially. Three months into the job, some union workers asked my dad to join their union. He politely refused, but they kept asking him. Six months into his job 3 of them paid a visit to our house one Saturday morning using strong language and insinuating 'join us or else'. Dad must have been expecting it, because he whipped out '38 revolver from under the kitchen table, pointed it at the guy furtherest from him, while lifting the guy closest to him off the floor with his other hand. Telling them to leave and never come back around him or his family. Those guys hauled ass and burned rubber. Dad quit the following Monday.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The last paragraph is the sort of thing that bothers me about labor unions.

When I was a kid, my father got a pretty decent job for a construction company. It was one of the few times in my childhood we were doing good financially. Three months into the job, some union workers asked my dad to join their union. He politely refused, but they kept asking him. Six months into his job 3 of them paid a visit to our house one Saturday morning using strong language and insinuating 'join us or else'. Dad must have been expecting it, because he whipped out '38 revolver from under the kitchen table, pointed it at the guy furtherest from him, while lifting the guy closest to him off the floor with his other hand. Telling them to leave and never come back around him or his family. Those guys hauled ass and burned rubber. Dad quit the following Monday.

I don't mean to make any personal aspersions about your father, but consider this wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem


The wages paid by that construction company were directly linked to union activity. Unions have industry-wide influence, union shop or scab.

 

[eyer]

I abhor violence in protest, for it is a feral act. I respect you, but I do not respect your stand on this issue. These union workers, in destroying property and disobeying a judges orders are acting as criminals, thugs, or SA goons.

Kumbyah, Frisco_Slug_Esq, kumbyah...

...I appreciate the collectivist rosco rathbone openly outing the natural enemy he inherently is to individual liberty: anyone who champions hostage-taking is a foe to freedom.

But while you would still have an after-hostage-taking glass of socializing beer with the statist...

...I pizz the red blood of rage against tyranny in it.