Feral Humans: The Payoff of Socialism

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

And here I thought it was just the after-effects of the 70s...

Some folks think the 2011 Democratic Party is a guilt trip from the 60s. That is, the real struggle back then was to stay outta harms way, not pacifist principles. And ever since then Democrats been trying to drag niggers and cripples and winos outta Egypt to the Utopian Socialist Promised Land. Cept the niggers like the mire too much to leave. Liberalism is a metaphor for bugging out in 1965.

HE AINT HEAVY! HE'S MY BRUDDAH!

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another.

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

He's my brother
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

 

[eyer]

Errrr ... they don't. It's pretty safe to say that anyone living a dreary life fails to improve the life of the nation. That's why we believe in impoving the quality of EVERYONE'S life.

Well ... many of us do.

Many more have no interest in promoting the general welfare, even while they scream how deeply they believe in the principles of the constitution.

Here's a suggestion:

How 'bout "impoving" the quality of your individual life to the point where your immediate family is so impressed they make their own individual choices to naturally emulate you...

...then take it on the road to "EVERYONE" else so they may individually choose.

Because - just having a strong suspicion here - I'm thinking there's at least some in your own immediate family that don't agree at all with your political version of "promoting the general welfare"...

...which naturally disqualifies your "EVERYONE" socialist theory from the very start.

Collectivist theory always sounds good to wanting ears...

 

[HermesVoice]

Here's a suggestion:

How 'bout "impoving" the quality of your individual life to the point where your immediate family is so impressed they make their own individual choices to naturally emulate you...

Nice idea. Here's the problem for your blinkered vision. I can improve the quality of my own life by improving the quality of life of others.

If they are better educated, I can expect to get better service from other businesses and better employees for my own. If they are better protected, I can expect more customers walking in with more money. If the roads in California are better maintained - making the lives of those there better - I can expect my goods to be shipped to me more quickly and efficiently.

Would you like me to go on? Because I can do this all day.

Now I understand that you like to pretend that you're a hermit, and that a hermit's existence will serve as political truth, but it won't.

Sorry 'bout that.

 

[Holly Delight]

I could have flayed them into shape!

When would this actual flaying have occurred? That's a valuable human being you're talking about there. A productive member of society.

You advocated bringing them into this world, now you want to take them out?

 

[miles]

Errrr ... they don't. It's pretty safe to say that anyone living a dreary life fails to improve the life of the nation. That's why we believe in impoving the quality of EVERYONE'S life.

Classic liberal kumbaya.

We believe in improving the quality of everyone's life.

How's that been working out for the past 40+ years? By trying to improve the quality of life the government has generated millions of people who depend upon them for their income.

 

[where]

Max Hastings

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...neration-brutalised-youths.html#ixzz1UiQuNKKc

I submit that it is not just Britain. This is a synopsis of what the West has become. There's always an excuse; whatever it takes to absolve the individual of responsibility, to turn them into a pack animal and to wipe away all that which was considered moral and "old-fashioned." This is why we are exposed to and demanded to accept and embrace so many aberrant, deviant, destructive and minority behaviors viewing them and pretending that they are just as valid as any other behavior or past cultural norms or mores.

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A_J's corollary #7, “To the New Age Liberal, the past is an indictment, the present is unjust, and the future will be perfect if and only if they establish the rules and cultural norms for current society.”

can't be arsed to read the rest of the thread, but you are citing max hastings? ffs.

 

[eyer]

Would you like me to go on? Because I can do this all day.

Classic liberal kumbaya.

We believe in improving the quality of everyone's life.

How's that been working out for the past 40+ years? By trying to improve the quality of life the government has generated millions of people who depend upon them for their income.

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[HermesVoice]

Classic liberal kumbaya.

We believe in improving the quality of everyone's life.

Yah! Fucking Founders and their "general welfare" bullshit! Flaming liberal assholes!

Oh shit! You didn't actually debate what I wrote about.

Go figure.

How's that been working out for the past 40+ years?

Hmmmm ... according to these guys, quite, quite well: http://www.american.com/archive/2008/july-august-magazine-contents/how-are-we-doing

Although I'd never realized that the American Enterprise Institute was a liberal think tank given to rounds of kumbaya.

OOOOOOOPS!

 

[HermesVoice]

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Enjoy the read, friend.

It's always funny when a smart conservative think tank sinks a dumb conservative's "argument."

 

[miles]

Enjoy the read, friend.

It's always funny when a smart conservative think tank sinks a dumb conservative's "argument."

What's really funny is when a dumb liberal posts a link to an article they either didn't read or didn't understand. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's the former. If you had actally read it you might have noticed the article was written three years ago.

Fucking idiot.

 

[miles]

Sorry...I forgot the .

 

[HermesVoice]

What's really funny is when a dumb liberal posts a link to an article they either didn't read or didn't understand. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's the former. If you had actally read it you might have noticed the article was written three years ago.

Fucking idiot.

Yes. And it covered the "past 40+ years" you requested in your post. But perhaps you neither understood nor read it.

So you tell me. How does the American Enterprise Instite answer your question: "How's that been working out for the past 40+ years?"

Or with the evidence in front of you, would you now like to backpedal and say: "Uuuuuhhh ... I MEANT the past three years!"

 

[eyer]

Enjoy the read, friend.

It's always funny when a smart conservative think tank sinks a dumb conservative's "argument."

AEI = "a smart conservative think tank"?



That's funny.

No wonder you so erroneously fling the word "friend" so casually about, too...

 

[HermesVoice]

AEI = "a smart conservative think tank"?



That's funny.

No wonder you so erroneously fling the word "friend" so casually about, too...

I can't figure if you're saying the AEI is liberal, or if you're saying they're not smart.

Mind you, I find both amusing and I suspect that most at the AEI would be laughing too.

In the end, though, your ad hominem merely says you can't debate their figures.

Can you?

 

[eyer]

Mind you, I find both amusing and I suspect that most at the AEI would be laughing too.

You and AEI, you "suspect", have humor in common, too?

Not at all enlightening...

 

[HermesVoice]

You and AEI, you "suspect", have humor in common, too?

Still not interested in debating their numbers, huh?

Thought not. They DO put a pretty big hole in miles's nonsense and thus leave you standing out in the cold, do they not?

 

[eyer]

Still not interested in debating their numbers, huh?

Thought not. They DO put a pretty big hole in miles's nonsense and thus leave you standing out in the cold, do they not?

Of course they do...

...but then my concerns have nothing to do with keeping stoked a warm and fuzzy feeling for a pseudo-toasty, socialist business environment that totally relies on constant infusions of subjective optimism just to survive.

I thank you for sharing your unique sense of humor, though...

...most individual socialists make their bone off of degrading their socialist business brothers, completely ignorant of the incestuous political relationship which exists between the two. You, on the other hand, revel in that relationship and manage to laugh at the same time.

Jolly good job...

...friend.

 

[HermesVoice]

Of course they do...

...but then my concerns have nothing to do with keeping stoked a warm and fuzzy feeling for a pseudo-toasty, socialist business environment that totally relies on constant infusions of subjective optimism just to survive.

That's funny, neither do the AEI's.

But thanks for your opening concession. I rather imagine miles will have some words for you at this point; no one likes to be abandoned.

And, finally, you might want to edit your emoticon in post 107. At the moment, it's making you look rather foolish.

 

[eyer]

That's funny, neither do the AEI's.

But thanks for your opening concession. I rather imagine miles will have some words for you at this point; no one likes to be abandoned.

And, finally, you might want to edit your emoticon in post 107. At the moment, it's making you look rather foolish.

"foolish" in eyes as yours...

...is quite fine by me.

You do understand that, right?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Nice idea. Here's the problem for your blinkered vision. I can improve the quality of my own life by improving the quality of life of others.

If they are better educated, I can expect to get better service from other businesses and better employees for my own. If they are better protected, I can expect more customers walking in with more money. If the roads in California are better maintained - making the lives of those there better - I can expect my goods to be shipped to me more quickly and efficiently.

Would you like me to go on? Because I can do this all day.

Now I understand that you like to pretend that you're a hermit, and that a hermit's existence will serve as political truth, but it won't.

Sorry 'bout that.

No you cannot.

The supporting evidence you present represent the more valid functions of government, which allows you to obfuscate and ignore the main cause of feral behavior, the expectation of being given a portion of another persons life and labor just because you exist...

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"The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else. ... there is only one remedy: time. People have to learn, through hard experience, the enormous disadvantage there is in plundering one another."

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
Frédéric Bastiat

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

When would this actual flaying have occurred? That's a valuable human being you're talking about there. A productive member of society.

You advocated bringing them into this world, now you want to take them out?

WHAT???


Did I strike a nerve in the feral human abortion thread?

Why not just sterilize?

Bob Barker says: Spay and neuter your "pets...;" happier and healthier!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

LONDON (AP) -- Britain must confront its "slow-motion moral collapse" Prime Minister David Cameron declared Monday, following four days of riots that left five people dead, thousands facing criminal charges and at least 200 million pounds ($326 million) in property losses.

Cameron said his coalition government would outline new policies designed to tackle a culture of laziness, irresponsibility and selfishness which he believes fueled Britain's unrest.

He also pledged to toughen rhetoric from ministers and officials, who he claimed had too often had shied away from promoting strong moral standards.

His government would no longer be timid in discussing family breakdown or poor parenting, or in criticizing those who fail to set a good example to their community.

"This has been a wake-up call for our country. Social problems that have been festering for decades have exploded in our face," Cameron told an audience at a youth center in Witney, his Parliamentary district in southern England.

"Just as people last week wanted criminals robustly confronted on our street, so they want to see these social problems taken on and defeated," he said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-14-19-10-06

 

[oggbashan]

There is a UK facebook site asking "The Government should immediately introduce a disproportionate response that has no effect on the rioters".

It is growing by the hour.

 

[Ishmael]

There is a UK facebook site asking "The Government should immediately introduce a disproportionate response that has no effect on the rioters".

It is growing by the hour.

I like the governments proposed(?) response. Get caught rioting, lose all benefits. Hopefully that loss is for life.

Ishmael

 

[oggbashan]

I checked my source (Times 2 today, page 3).

The actual wording of the growing Facebook group is "The government should do something arbitrary and disproportionate about rioters".

That is the usual result of politicians' response to current events.