"9/11 Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" Trailer

[Colonel Hogan]

The Pentagon attack is singularly the most strange of the lot of them but I've never been given anything to prove DNA was found. Have you seen it?

There are many reports suggesting 7 or more of the hijackers are alive - whether they be true or not I know no more than whether there was DNA found.

One of the hijackers that hit the towers was identified because his passport was found in manhatten. That's realistic isn't it.......

All any of you liars (that's the opposite to a truther, right?) had to do is find Osama and ask him. Why didn't you do that? Works both ways fella - I'm open to either explanation but it certainly played right into the hands of western governments and we know for a fact that the US neo-cons had an agenda where the middle east is concerned. The motives for an inside job are at least as strong as the motives for a few hate-fuelled muppets living in a cave.

I used to think conspiracists were just prannies looking to bitch for some hidden agenda - I was a tool. Well, still am to be honest, but an honest, open-minded tool, at the least.

Take it easy dude

From Wiki:

Remains that were recovered from the Pentagon were turned over to the Armed Forces Medical Examiner office, located at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. The medical examiner's office was able to identify remains belonging to 179 of the victims.[78] Investigators eventually identified 184 of the 189 people who died in the attack.[79] The remains of the five hijackers were identified through a process of elimination, and were turned over as evidence to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).[80]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77#cite_note-78

This from footnote [79]:

Teams of forensic scientists, under the direction of Demris Lee, technical leader of the Nuclear DNA Section, took over the difficult chore of generating a DNA profile of the victims. Their work included not only the Pentagon crash victims, but the victims of the Somerset County crash as well. Every one of the organization's 102 DNA analysts, sample processors, logistics staff, and administrative personnel were involved -- from collecting, tracking, analyzing DNA samples, and gathering and logging DNA reference material to preparing DNA reports.

http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml

Apparently DNA matching played a significant role in identifying many of the victims of American flt. 77 and United flt. 93. Most reference material containing the victims' DNA was easily obtained from surviving family members. That, of course, would not be true of the hijackers.

But if you've positively identified over 90% of the victims by DNA matching or dental records with the names listed on the airline manifest, it is more than reasonable to conclude that the five people you have not identified are the hijackers who also died in the crash.

You can play this stupid "hijackers are alive" game all you want, but then your conspiracy theory has the responsibility to offer a reasonable explanation of why four "non-hijacked planes" all crashed on the same day.

Of course, this highlights the biggest lie 9/11 Truthers believe because it is the very essence that allows their nonsense to live on -- that the burden of proof is upon non-believers to prove their theories wrong.

Horseshit. The pictures, sounds and subsequent investigations of the 9/11 events present a prima facie case of terrorist attacks by Muslim jihadists, and it is a compelling argument beyond any reasonable doubt.

Anyone advancing a different theory shoulder's the burden of proof that Occam's razor does not apply.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

From Wiki:



This from footnote [79]:



Apparently DNA matching played a significant role in identifying many of the victims of American flt. 77 and United flt. 93. Most reference material containing the victims' DNA was easily obtained from surviving family members. That, of course, would not be true of the hijackers.

But if you've positively identified over 90% of the victims by DNA matching or dental records with the names listed on the airline manifest, it is more than reasonable to conclude that the five people you have not identified are the hijackers who also died in the crash.

You can play this stupid "hijackers are alive" game all you want, but then your conspiracy theory has the responsibility to offer a reasonable explanation of why four "non-hijacked planes" all crashed on the same day.

Of course, this highlights the biggest lie 9/11 Truthers believe because it is the very essence that allows their nonsense to live on -- that the burden of proof is upon non-believers to prove their theories wrong.

Horseshit. The pictures, sounds and subsequent investigations of the 9/11 events present a prima facie case of terrorist attacks by Muslim jihadists, and it is a compelling argument beyond any reasonable doubt.

Anyone advancing a different theory shoulder's the burden of proof that Occam's razor does not apply.

Actually, I think you’ll find it’s even more damning than that. They managed to link the DNA via samples recovered from the hijackers hire car, hotel rooms and baggage to these individuals.

Our friends problem seems to be that he hasn’t actually seen “IT”, notwithstanding he hasn’t told us what "IT" is that he wants to see.

Woof!

 

[rosco rathbone]

Amateurs

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

I was the dude on the grassy knoll.

 

[warrior queen]

IF the 'truthers' are right, I'm wondering what they'd suggest is done now?
Pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq immediately, leaving behind the mess?
Apologise to Osama's family and pay compensation?
And what about the people that died in the attacks? Pay the families compo and leave it at that?
Seriously, what exactly would they want to happen?

I watched this on my tv - heck, I woke up my kids so they could see the evil.
I don't for one second believe that this wasn't an act of terrorism.
Conspiracy theories will always come up - but in this case I think it was what it was.
A heinous act of terrorism perpetrated by alQaida.

 

[bronzeage]

IF the 'truthers' are right, I'm wondering what they'd suggest is done now?
Pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq immediately, leaving behind the mess?
Apologise to Osama's family and pay compensation?
And what about the people that died in the attacks? Pay the families compo and leave it at that?
Seriously, what exactly would they want to happen?

I watched this on my tv - heck, I woke up my kids so they could see the evil.
I don't for one second believe that this wasn't an act of terrorism.
Conspiracy theories will always come up - but in this case I think it was what it was.
A heinous act of terrorism perpetrated by alQaida.

Truthers would have us believe the Bush administration was able to destroy the WTC, make it look like the work of Arab terrorists and not leave a trace of evidence. These are the same people who fucked up two wars in short order.

Their basic logic is as follows: Buildings are big and planes are small. Something small can't knock down something big.

 

[phrodeau]

I was the dude on the grassy knoll.

Did you keep your rifle up your ass?

 

[HAL_9000]

Most likely a coverup and denial that trillions spent on defense and intel funding are powerless in the age of technology.

The herald of a new age where true skill can easily trump mere might?

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/03/7239686-us-was-chief-target-of-cyber-attacks-mcafee

 

[eyer]

Indeed, I was in BROOKLYN

and I for one

was HAPPY!

I was at the GYM, on teh bike as it fell

When I got off, I sent an EMAIL to Colin (ASSHOLE) Powell and said

"I HOPE YOU WILL ACT WITH RESTRAINT!"

the story is documented on LIT for a LONG TIME

"I HOPE YOU WILL ACT WITH RESTRAINT!"

That's awfully compassionate and humanitarian of you...

...when did the change happen?

Eyer, are you trying to 'John Edward' up the spirit of Lovelynice?

Always keep 'em guessing, Frisco...

 

[KRCummings]

If one were to go back and read through all the old truther threads (which is a ton of reading in itself) one would fine some interesting Lit names standing alongside the crazier truthers. I can think of one in particular that I won't name because I don't feel like digging up the shit to back up my claim. He was there and he was with them though. In fact we got into a minor spat because I called him an idiot over the whole thing. Other popular names backed him up although I suppose they might not nowadays. Not sure.
Of course it was years ago and my memory might be off but I don't think so.

 

[John Doe]

Why do people keep thinking that YouTube can prove anything?

 

[KRCummings]

Why do people keep thinking that YouTube can prove anything?

Because they're idiots.

 

[HAL_9000]

Why do people keep thinking that YouTube can prove anything?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6lL83wl31E

 

[Lowbrow_heathen]

I thought LN solved this one long ago.

At this point anyone who gives any credence to any of this bullshit, let alone part with their money to go and see a film about it should be committed.

Woof!

At this point, anyone who hasn't woken up to the FACT that the USA governments continually lie, and that the Bush and Obama administration fit that bad habit is nothing more than a waste of everyone else's time. Shut-up moron, you fool nobody but yourself.

 

[Lowbrow_heathen]

A few years ago we did an estimate of how many people would be needed to carry out the work in the time frame that the truthies narrative requires.

It’s in the thousands.

Woof!

Experts worked out it was in the dozens.
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Your opinion is not that of an expert.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Most likely a coverup and denial that trillions spent on defense and intel funding are powerless in the age of technology.

The herald of a new age where true skill can easily trump mere might?

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/03/7239686-us-was-chief-target-of-cyber-attacks-mcafee

Knock that off, pointless.

 

[HAL_9000]

Knock that off, pointless.

Wouldn't be the first time idiots almost started armageddon. Certainly won't be the last. And please never call me that.

 

[KRCummings]

Wouldn't be the first time idiots almost started armageddon. Certainly won't be the last. And please never call me that.

Pointless is one of the better Litzens. You should be honored to be associated with him. I know you'd rather have someone say you're my alt but let's face it, you just aren't up to that level.

 

[Sonny Limatina]

Pointless is one of the better Litzens. You should be honored to be associated with him. I know you'd rather have someone say you're my alt but let's face it, you just aren't up to that level.

Shit, I got my alts mixed up. I think pointless was stalinbot_9000 or something.

 

[KRCummings]

Shit, I got my alts mixed up. I think pointless was stalinbot_9000 or something.

Yes, it was stalinbot. I knew what you meant but it's a slightly obscure thing so the peanut gallery doesn't have a clue.

 

[eyer]

You can't handle the truth!

In the Shadow of Hermes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmindJnEDvo&feature=player_embedded#at=2003

See if you can handle 1:59:26 of the truth...

 

[123hot]

Why do people keep thinking that YouTube can prove anything?

Yet others use wikipedia to prove their point or, indeed, the rhetoric of neo-con Bush.

Woofy, I was referring to Bin Laden mate (who wasn't tracked anywhere). If this were a false flag, I'm quite sure DNA would be taken care of.

Someone said the onus has to be on the conspiracists to prove the official line wrong but what about innoncence until proven guilty? I've not seen enough to convince me so I shan't declare anyone guilty. This isn't some over-hyped event that we can enjoy speculating (or in the case of some enjoy ridiculing others for speculating) who dunnit aka Kennedy, Diana, etc, but rather the justification for mass war which, coincidently, was already spelt out by the PNAC as far back as 98.

How can the US hit buildings with aircraft? A lot easier than people living in caves, that's for sure.

We come to our own conclusions based on what we've seen/read. Makes me laugh how some think they're so clever just because their views happen to match with a bunch of people who ended up profitting from the disaster. Truthers - what a stupid phrase for a stupid population of offensive cock-sure dudes with no more knowledge of the events than any conspiracist.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

It's fascinating to me that the 9/11 Truthers are so fixated on that one event as having to have been an "inside job" so that the Bush administration could justify the war in Iraq.

And yet, I've never heard anyone suggest that the USS Cole was an "inside job." Same for the bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzinia. Kohbar towers attacks? Nope.

There's just something about 9/11.

In spite of the fact that the invasion of Iraq only came a year and a half after 9/11.

In spite of the fact that the vast majority of the debate surrounding the invasion of Iraq focused on to what extent they had or were developing weapons of mass destruction. Terrorism generally played a minor role in that debate, and the events of 9/11 hardly at all.

If the U. S. went to all that trouble to stage 9/11 for the very purpose of invading Iraq, one would think that would be the obvious emotional trigger to pull rather than WMD's that we might not (and didn't) find.

 

[123hot]

It's fascinating to me that the 9/11 Truthers are so fixated on that one event as having to have been an "inside job" so that the Bush administration could justify the war in Iraq.

And yet, I've never heard anyone suggest that the USS Cole was an "inside job." Same for the bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzinia. Kohbar towers attacks? Nope.

There's just something about 9/11.

In spite of the fact that the invasion of Iraq only came a year and a half after 9/11.

In spite of the fact that the vast majority of the debate surrounding the invasion of Iraq focused on to what extent they had or were developing weapons of mass destruction. Terrorism generally played a minor role in that debate, and the events of 9/11 hardly at all.

If the U. S. went to all that trouble to stage 9/11 for the very purpose of invading Iraq, one would think that would be the obvious emotional trigger to pull rather than WMD's that we might not (and didn't) find.

Surely the fact that people aren't necessarily saying all acts of attrocity are false flags should add some, albeit minor, credibility to their viewpoint?

Actually, most people refer to Afghan in relation to 9/11. But we knew Sadam had WMD at some point cos we sold it to him. The war was justified on the basis that it may end up in the wrong hands linking directly back to 9/11.

9/11 is not alone however - a high ranking British cop determined 7/7 and 9/11 were false flag attacks. Until I saw his interview I never even considered 7/7 suspicious. Still haven't seen much evidence of it either.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Surely the fact that people aren't necessarily saying all acts of attrocity are false flags should add some, albeit minor, credibility to their viewpoint?

Actually, most people refer to Afghan in relation to 9/11. But we knew Sadam had WMD at some point cos we sold it to him. The war was justified on the basis that it may end up in the wrong hands linking directly back to 9/11.

9/11 is not alone however - a high ranking British cop determined 7/7 and 9/11 were false flag attacks. Until I saw his interview I never even considered 7/7 suspicious. Still haven't seen much evidence of it either.

Not surprisingly, you miss the point.

George Bush did not have to manufacture a reason to go to war with anybody. He certainly did not need to resort to the extreme of killing thousands of his own countrymen.

There were several major terrorist attacks against the United States prior to his taking office that would have more than justified retaliation against those terrorists and the nations harboring them.

The foundational principle upon which most 9/11 conspiracies are based is fundamentally insane.