President Obama's Support for International Gun Control

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Opposition Mounts To U.N. Gun Control Treaty

Senate opposition is growing to President Obama's support for a United Nations effort that could bring international gun control into the United States and slap America's gun owners with severe restrictions.

At last count, 55 senators, including 10 Democrats, have signed letters to the president and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying they will oppose the Arms Trade Treaty . The treaty must win a two-thirds majority to win passage, meaning that approval appears doomed if the treaty language isn't changed.

Kansas Republican Sen. Jerry Moran is leading the largest group of opposition. He sent a letter signed by 44 other senators warning the president not to move on the treaty.

"Our country's sovereignty and the Second Amendment rights of American citizens must not be infringed upon by the United Nations," Moran wrote in the letter. "Today, the Senate sends a powerful message to the Obama Administration: an Arms Trade Treaty that does not protect ownership of civilian firearms will fail in the Senate. Our firearm freedoms are not negotiable."

The treaty, which the Bush administration had opposed, deals with the international trade of arms. It would cover the trading of conventional firearms likes those used by collectors and sportsmen and women.

The goal of the treaty is to come up with internationally recognized rules governing the trade of guns and ammo. The United States is the world's largest exporter of arms.

To sooth concerns, the administration has said that it would sign the accord only if all other states agreed to it first, but pro-gun groups view the international treaty as a first step toward home-grown gun control.

The senators and groups like the National Rifle Association argue that it would essentially gut the Second Amendment by allowing an international authority to control American gun ownership.

A final version of the treaty is expected to be finished next year.

http://www.usnews.com/news/washingt...ty-opposition-mounts-to-un-gun-control-treaty
 
The Fuhrer is an alien from Bizzarro World. I've never seen a politician who is so consistently on the wrong side of every issue. He suffers from Liberal Dyslexia.
 
Opposition Mounts To U.N. Gun Control Treaty

Senate opposition is growing to President Obama's support for a United Nations effort that could bring international gun control into the United States and slap America's gun owners with severe restrictions.

At last count, 55 senators, including 10 Democrats, have signed letters to the president and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying they will oppose the Arms Trade Treaty . The treaty must win a two-thirds majority to win passage, meaning that approval appears doomed if the treaty language isn't changed.

Kansas Republican Sen. Jerry Moran is leading the largest group of opposition. He sent a letter signed by 44 other senators warning the president not to move on the treaty.

"Our country's sovereignty and the Second Amendment rights of American citizens must not be infringed upon by the United Nations," Moran wrote in the letter. "Today, the Senate sends a powerful message to the Obama Administration: an Arms Trade Treaty that does not protect ownership of civilian firearms will fail in the Senate. Our firearm freedoms are not negotiable."

The treaty, which the Bush administration had opposed, deals with the international trade of arms. It would cover the trading of conventional firearms likes those used by collectors and sportsmen and women.

The goal of the treaty is to come up with internationally recognized rules governing the trade of guns and ammo. The United States is the world's largest exporter of arms.

To sooth concerns, the administration has said that it would sign the accord only if all other states agreed to it first, but pro-gun groups view the international treaty as a first step toward home-grown gun control.

The senators and groups like the National Rifle Association argue that it would essentially gut the Second Amendment by allowing an international authority to control American gun ownership.

A final version of the treaty is expected to be finished next year.

http://www.usnews.com/news/washingt...ty-opposition-mounts-to-un-gun-control-treaty

Thanks for this heads up. I'm to wally world tomorrow to buy me sum guns. Lots of 'em.
 
Thanks for this heads up. I'm to wally world tomorrow to buy me sum guns. Lots of 'em.

Are you a dealer?

Why else would you practically need "Lots of 'em"?

How people many are currently residing in your compound?
 
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Thanks for this heads up. I'm to wally world tomorrow to buy me sum guns. Lots of 'em.

Might think about dropping a line to your elected reps, too. I know its overkill but I usually send one to all levels of government just for good measure.
 
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The Fuhrer is an alien from Bizzarro World. I've never seen a politician who is so consistently on the wrong side of every issue. He suffers from Liberal Dyslexia.

He has never been educated; he is the Manchurian Candidate who's only frame of reference is his indoctrination from Stanley through George Soros.

It's sort of sad, really. He had no freaking clue what's going on. He never has.

Few people, by the way, understand that the play here has nothing really to do with socialism, liberal causes, justice, fairness, and so on. The play here is all about U.S. currency. Using uncertainty to drive it down, Soros' puppet is doing his master's work.

The only reason George Soros supports liberal causes is because they put fear in investors and industrialists. Uncertainty is the largest of these destructive forces.

How does George Soros make money? Not from heading up liberal causes.

How does George Soros make money? Not from helping the poor.

How does George Soros make money? Manipulative arbitrage.

Once the U.S. currency has been driven down far enough for old George to enter the Bill Gates, Warren Buffet level, he will dismiss Obama.

It really has never been about politics, folks. It's about devaluing U.S. currency. That's why the S&P downgrade is so exciting for those guys. It speeds up the inflation necessary for George to make the same sort of killing he did in other countries. That, my friends, is the only reason he put Obama into the presidency.

"Keep them wondering and guessing, Barack, and we'll do just fine!"

See? That's why there is no amnesty for aliens, no real left wing causes pushed by the administration. No budget presented, no effort to clarify things.... just a national sense of bewilderment that drives up the price of gold and drives down the value of the dollar. And that's what George is all about.... George and his gullible puppet.
 
He has never been educated; he is the Manchurian Candidate who's only frame of reference is his indoctrination from Stanley through George Soros.

It's sort of sad, really. He had no freaking clue what's going on. He never has.

Few people, by the way, understand that the play here has nothing really to do with socialism, liberal causes, justice, fairness, and so on. The play here is all about U.S. currency. Using uncertainty to drive it down, Soros' puppet is doing his master's work.

The only reason George Soros supports liberal causes is because they put fear in investors and industrialists. Uncertainty is the largest of these destructive forces.

How does George Soros make money? Not from heading up liberal causes.

How does George Soros make money? Not from helping the poor.

How does George Soros make money? Manipulative arbitrage.

Once the U.S. currency has been driven down far enough for old George to enter the Bill Gates, Warren Buffet level, he will dismiss Obama.

It really has never been about politics, folks. It's about devaluing U.S. currency. That's why the S&P downgrade is so exciting for those guys. It speeds up the inflation necessary for George to make the same sort of killing he did in other countries. That, my friends, is the only reason he put Obama into the presidency.

"Keep them wondering and guessing, Barack, and we'll do just fine!"

See? That's why there is no amnesty for aliens, no real left wing causes pushed by the administration. No budget presented, no effort to clarify things.... just a national sense of bewilderment that drives up the price of gold and drives down the value of the dollar. And that's what George is all about.... George and his gullible puppet.

It worries me that there are still walking, talking (but not thinking) human beings on this planet who will never see Obama for what he is: an incompetent fraud who is in so far over his head that he makes Jimmy Carter look like George Washington. He has no leadership or management skills, and is so detached from reality that he continues to blame others and thinks nobody is going to notice.

I laugh every time a Democrat proclaims the GOP has no viable candidates for 2012.
 
It worries me that there are still walking, talking (but not thinking) human beings on this planet who will never see Obama for what he is: an incompetent fraud who is in so far over his head that he makes Jimmy Carter look like George Washington. He has no leadership or management skills, and is so detached from reality that he continues to blame others and thinks nobody is going to notice.

I laugh every time a Democrat proclaims the GOP has no viable candidates for 2012.

Well, it depends on what you think his "job" is.

He's George Soros' butt boy, hired to trash the dollar and he's doing a fine job for the puppet master, no?
 
I must have missed it, this bill does what if passed?

It's an arms TRADE treaty. The people spewing bullshit about their 2nd Amendment rights have zero clue. The only way the proposed treaty would affect you as an American citizen AT ALL, is if you are engaging in International Arms Trade. Notice how the "Washington Whispers" Blog post didn't spell out anything specific, not even a link to the information on the arms treaty readily available at the U.N. web site.

As far as the supposed impact on American businesses: They shouldn't be arming fucking warlords in third world countries, because this is what this is all about.

This appears to be just another attempt to misinform and manipulate the "God and Guns" crowd by the NRA. A small amount of research into the author (past blog posts) reveals that he seems to be enamored with the NRA and has penned other opinion pieces extolling the virtue of the gun lobby.

Just another false: "They're gonna come take yer guns!" meme.
 
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I laugh every time a Democrat proclaims the GOP has no viable candidates for 2012.

Well Miles, if you're so confident that the GOP has a viable candidate, why not go on record with the name(s) of the candidate you feel can beat President Obama?

Right now, Mitt Romney appears to be the front runner, do you think he has a chance of beating President Obama?

How about Michele Bachmann?

Herman Cain?

Go on record with your predictions!

I'll state for the record that neither Romney, Bachmann or Cain will win against President Obama.
 
He's George Soros' butt boy, hired to trash the dollar and he's doing a fine job for the puppet master, no?



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Kraft Rulez #99 is in effect: When you can't respond to a political argument, brag that you have someone on ignore.
 
Well Miles, if you're so confident that the GOP has a viable candidate, why not go on record with the name(s) of the candidate you feel can beat President Obama?

Right now, Mitt Romney appears to be the front runner, do you think he has a chance of beating President Obama?

How about Michele Bachmann?

Herman Cain?

Go on record with your predictions!

I'll state for the record that neither Romney, Bachmann or Cain will win against President Obama.

I'll go even further.
Hell I even offered up a friendly $10 wager to Cap'n Lipstick on the outcome of the 2012 Presidential race.
Obama wins over any GOP or third party challenger. I'll pay double if he loses to Bachmann or Palin, triple if he loses to a combo ticket with both in either configuration.

He's made nothing but excuses about why he won't bet.
First were concerns about his anonymity, I offered to let him choose a neutral third party to hold the wager.. Then the wager was too small.. If you don't believe in what you say enough to put a piddling $10 behind it, why would you put up $100 or more? :rolleyes:
Personally I think he just lacks the strength of his supposed convictions.

Maybe one of the other "conservatives" on the board will take up the gauntlet. I won't hold my breath. For all of their bluster and blow they all know that Obama will be elected for a second term. They should also know that the GOP is going to take a beating over the debt ceiling tango. Should, but probably don't.
 
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Life is so much easier when you don't have to listen to people point out exactly how much of an idiot you are, repeatedly, huh miles?
 
Kraft Rulez #99 is in effect: When you can't respond to a political argument, brag that you have someone on ignore.

I'll go even further.
Hell I even offered up a friendly $10 wager to Cap'n Lipstick on the outcome of the 2012 Presidential race.
Obama wins over any GOP or third party challenger. I'll pay double if he loses to Bachmann or Palin, triple if he loses to a combo ticket with both in either configuration.

He's made nothing but excuses about why he won't bet.
First were concerns about his anonymity, I offered to let him choose a neutral third party to hold the wager.. Then the wager was too small.. If you don't believe in what you say enough to put a piddling $10 behind it, why would you put up $100 or more? :rolleyes:
Personally I think he just lacks the strength of his supposed convictions.

Maybe one of the other "conservatives on the board will take up the gauntlet. I won't hold my breath. For all of their bluster and blow they all know that Obama will be elected for a second term. They should also know that the GOP is going to take a beating over the debt ceiling tango. Should, but probably don't.

Life is so much easier when you don't have to listen to people point out exactly how much of an idiot you are, repeatedly, huh miles?

I think you two are perfect examples of what the modern day Democrat is all about...
 
I think you two are perfect examples of what the modern day Democrat is all about...
Making "conservatives" and "Not Republicans" look like dipshits? Honestly, it's fish in a barrel most of the time.

Speaking of easy money..

Ready to take up that wager yet Cap'n?
Easy $10, $20 if Bachmann manages survive the primaries. President Obama couldn't possibly win, right?

Still not willing to put up the cost of a ticket to see "The Undefeated"?

This is me, not surprised. :cool:
 
Making "conservatives" and "Not Republicans" look like dipshits? Honestly, it's fish in a barrel most of the time.

Speaking of easy money..

Ready to take up that wager yet Cap'n?
Easy $10, $20 if Bachmann manages survive the primaries. President Obama couldn't possibly win, right?

Still not willing to put up the cost of a ticket to see "The Undefeated"?

This is me, not surprised. :cool:

As I pointed out the first time, if you were so sure that Obama beats EVERYBODY, then you would have put up a substantive sum...

I vote Libertarian.
 
As I pointed out the first time, if you were so sure that Obama beats EVERYBODY, then you would have put up a substantive sum...

I vote Libertarian.

If you're not willing to put up a measly $10 why should anyone think that you're willing to put up a "substantive sum"?

We know, you're "Not a Republican", you just support the vast majority of their intiatives, champion a majority of their causes, and parrot their talking points. :cool:

"Everybody" includes Libertarians too. That's the whole point.. If ANYONE beats Obama in 2012, you win. I can only guess that you don't really think that you can win. The more excuses you make the more it looks like I'm right.

It's not as if I'm asking you to wager your child's college fund. Is it?
 
:rolleyes:

That's the best you have?



No wonder you never show up in your doom and gloom thread anymore since what you knew to be true did not happen...

Now, you know FOR A FACT that Obama is a shoo-in for reelection.

Have you even seen the Battle Ground polls?
 
The Fuhrer is an alien from Bizzarro World. I've never seen a politician who is so consistently on the wrong side of every issue. He suffers from Liberal Dyslexia.

Hey Miles, if President Obama really is "The Fuhrer" as you claim, why haven't you and your family been rendered down to soap yet? :confused:
 
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