Fatwā me baby

[fuckmeat]

So, through no fault of my own, this week I developed an entirely new fetish, one that may well get me killed.

I missed a train and had to wait nearly an hour on a train platform at a tiny station with no ticket office or waiting room. I left my sunscreen at home. The sun was blazing straight at my face. There was no shade anywhere. I have very fair skin and in less than 20mins I knew I couldn't sit there an hour without suffering third degree burns.

It was a tiny station.

I was completely alone.

No, I didn't masturbate! They have CCTV.

I had a light scarf around my neck and I wound up with no choice but to cover my head with it and shade my face. Like I said, I have very fair skin and the sun was blazing. I was therefore wearing a light but long sleeved top and trousers... modest, one might say.

A short while before the next train arrived, so did some other people. They stayed at the opposite end of the train platform to me. I got a couple looks but dismissed it. I didn't even realise what I'd done.

Until my train pulled in and I stood up to board it, clocking my own reflection in the window, wearing modest clothes with a scarf over my head and hair, Muslim style. This I might add, was in a rural village, miles from a more diverse city centre.

People openly stared at me.

British people do not ever stare at anyone while on pubic transport. National etiquette dictates that you make eye contact with no-one. You politely pretend that everyone else simply isn't there. Even on a crowded train. Unless and until you need someone to move to let you pass (for which you always apologise profusely) you look at your phone, a paper, the floor, the door, or out the window.

By then I felt stupid, way too stupid to come out from behind my hijab or sunglasses. But the scarf was very light and I could see through the gauzy material in the sunlight. In the tiny carriage with me were some boys aged maybe 12 or 14 who glared at me and expressed negative views about Al-Qa'ida. Two middle aged women sat together immediately struck up a conversation about Islamic terrorism, while shooting suspicious looks at my shopping. Everyone seemed to find me fascinating. Then then the conductor came along selling tickets. He took one look at me and assumed I must be foreign, so he spoke very slowly to me at the top of his voice, drawing even more attention my way.

When I disembarked at my station, I got watched by one of the station's staff all the way along the platform to the toilets. There seemed to be some kind of force-field that prevented people from moving within three feet of me.

In the toilet I loitered for ten minutes, put the scarf in a bag and put on a cardigan. I only hope the fact that the 'muslim woman' didn't re-emerge didn't get the whole station evacuated.

It deeply shocked me. The whole ordeal was very intimidating, even for just the short journey I made. It makes me feel very sorry for Muslim women who wear hijabs or niqabs in western society.

But I have to say it, the humiliation whore in me was captivated by the experience.

 

[Avellan13]

I'm sorry that happened to you. I don't hold a grudge against muslims at all. Nly a small group of them are extremists who are terrorists. Not all muslims are bad. One of my friends is muslim and he was just as shocked and saddened by the terrorist attacks during 9-11. Hope you feel better soon.

 

[fuckmeat]

I'm sorry that happened to you. I don't hold a grudge against muslims at all. Nly a small group of them are extremists who are terrorists. Not all muslims are bad. One of my friends is muslim and he was just as shocked and saddened by the terrorist attacks during 9-11. Hope you feel better soon.

Oh I completely agree. I know that Muslim fanatics are a small minority. But as I understand it Muslim men can choose whether or not they want to have long beards or wear traditionally Arabic dress. Muslim women who believe in covering their heads/hair/faces must do so at all times in pubic, which makes them easier targets. In reality, in any demographic it's overwhelmingly men who perpetrate violence so the experience I had did shock me.

This thread is in no way intended to be derogatory towards peaceful Muslims, any more than it's intended to be derogatory towards British commuters. It's just an experience I had due to the way Muslims are perceived as a result of Islamic extremism and suicide bombing attacks that have happened in the UK.

Everyone I know has no prejudice against Muslims per se. Everyone I know understands the difference between a peaceful religious devotee and an extremist. Everyone I know however, is cautious as a commuter. What 9/11 did to America 7/7 did to the UK. Here, buses, trains and the subway were directly targeted.

But this isn't about that!

slaps your wrist

This is about me getting wet at being perceived as Muslim.

Nobody should be on Lit discussing Islamic extremism. Keep the politics to yourselves guys.

 

[Avellan13]

Looks at her, wide-eyed at her action.

... don't worry. I don't like discussing politics a lot. It usually leads to arguments. So you were aroused by being precieved as a muslim? Well never heard of something like that...

 

[fuckmeat]

Looks at her, wide-eyed at her action.

... don't worry. I don't like discussing politics a lot. It usually leads to arguments. So you were aroused by being precieved as a muslim? Well never heard of something like that...

Me neither.

But people's dislike and distrust was potent. Nobody even tried to conceal it. It's something I've never experienced before and hopefully never will again. It was an eye opener, definitely. We all tell ourselves we're not prejudiced but statistically, we have a right to be. Not all Muslims are terrorists but here in the UK 99% of terrorists are Muslims. I know I don't act like that towards Muslims but I can understand the climate we're in and how the less... cultured and intelligent shall we say, respond with open prejudice like that.

But the feeling of being suspected, monitored, openly discussed as though I was deaf and didn't know a word of English, glared at, avoided... plus knowing the scarf made me stick out like a sore thumb. I am a short woman. I'm not usually in most people's line of sight but everyone noticed me.

I'd go so far as to call it a profound experience. Something I'll give a lot of thought to.

I just know there's an SRP in this somewhere that wouldn't be terribly clichéd.

 

[marauder13]

So, to clarify, you found being the subject of obvious dislike and discriminatory behaviour to be arousing? That you would like to have a character who is socially maligned, almost outcaste, played out in a story?

Would it be a case of a woman of such a group being harassed, persecuted, assaulted perhaps for the sins of her cultural group? That she is forced to wear an outfit that makes her stand out against the normal population, proclaiming who she is with? That she is treated as being invisible to others?

Is that the sort of thing you're looking at?

 

[fr33ks33k]

*wanders in*

Forgive me if I'm drawing impossible parallels, but this experience reminds me of The Scarlet Letter...though I suppose on a more extreme level and for different reasons...

*wanders off*

 

[fuckmeat]

So, to clarify, you found being the subject of obvious dislike and discriminatory behaviour to be arousing? That you would like to have a character who is socially maligned, almost outcaste, played out in a story?

Would it be a case of a woman of such a group being harassed, persecuted, assaulted perhaps for the sins of her cultural group? That she is forced to wear an outfit that makes her stand out against the normal population, proclaiming who she is with? That she is treated as being invisible to others?

Is that the sort of thing you're looking at?

Well I'm a jaded little slut, so when something new stirs me it's a rare occurrence.

But yeah, I find the concept of being objectified by a whole community quite compelling right now.

Of course, with Muslim fanaticism it's not your common or garden variety discrimination. People in westernised societies targeted by Islamic terrorists, terrotists who are prepared to detonate themselves in the pursuit of global Sharia law fear people in traditional Muslim dress.

Ironically, all footage of terrorists on their way to blow themselves up shows that when carrying out a task like that, they tend to dress like westerners, to attract less negative attention.

It's a very different thing from say, socially accepted racism towards blacks in America until relatively recent years, when the white people had little to fear from them.

That's not to belittle the victims of any kind of RL xenophobia, any more than my non-consensual storylines belittle the RL victims of rape and domestic abuse.

Fact of the matter is that I have zero control over what revs my engine and I've long since given up apologising for it.

But yes, in SRP terms it's opened a new avenue of depravity for me. Inspired me even.

 

[marauder13]

Well I'm a jaded little slut, so when something new stirs me it's a rare occurrence.

But yeah, I find the concept of being objectified by a whole community quite compelling right now.

Of course, with Muslim fanaticism it's not your common or garden variety discrimination. People in westernised societies targeted by Islamic terrorists, terrotists who are prepared to detonate themselves in the pursuit of global Sharia law fear people in traditional Muslim dress.

Ironically, all footage of terrorists on their way to blow themselves up shows that when carrying out a task like that, they tend to dress like westerners, to attract less negative attention.

It's a very different thing from say, socially accepted racism towards blacks in America until relatively recent years, when the white people had little to fear from them.

That's not to belittle the victims of any kind of RL xenophobia, any more than my non-consensual storylines belittle the RL victims of rape and domestic abuse.

Fact of the matter is that I have zero control over what revs my engine and I've long since given up apologising for it.

But yes, in SRP terms it's opened a new avenue of depravity for me. Inspired me even.

All I was trying to do was isolate the key elements of what flicked the switch for you. Rather than focus on the circumstances you explained, I thought it would be helpful to get the feel of what happened.

So, again, in a SRP scenario, you would have a woman who is a part of some cultural or social group that is feared, hated or generally looked down on. She would be attired differently to the main stream, which in turn draws more attention to her. The general behaviour of those around would be to treat her as is she wasn't there, while through other means singling her out.

To take it a step further, things might happen to her that people would ignore her and her plight. The same things that if they happened to someone more mainstream, there would be civilian or police intervention.

Is that the kind of thing that you found to be appealing?

Also, I was not having a go at you for what 'revs your engine'. You're like most other folks in that there is little control over what turns you on.

 

[fuckmeat]

All I was trying to do was isolate the key elements of what flicked the switch for you. Rather than focus on the circumstances you explained, I thought it would be helpful to get the feel of what happened.

So, again, in a SRP scenario, you would have a woman who is a part of some cultural or social group that is feared, hated or generally looked down on. She would be attired differently to the main stream, which in turn draws more attention to her. The general behaviour of those around would be to treat her as is she wasn't there, while through other means singling her out.

To take it a step further, things might happen to her that people would ignore her and her plight. The same things that if they happened to someone more mainstream, there would be civilian or police intervention.

Is that the kind of thing that you found to be appealing?

Also, I was not having a go at you for what 'revs your engine'. You're like most other folks in that there is little control over what turns you on.

I'm very sorry if I sounded defensive. I posted the thread because I thought it was an interesting experience that merited discussion but now I find myself worrying about what people will think and inserting disclaimers into everything, which makes me angry at myself. I have a poor history when it comes to discussion threads in the SRP Lounge however.

But yes, that kind of thing is exactly what I mean. I also find the idea of very modest dress interesting, as it would hide any marks of domestic abuse. It must also make the wearer feel as though they are trying to be invisible and being able to observe the responses in others from behind a head covering, face veil or sunglasses is also appealing to me. People assuming you can't understand what they're saying about you or about your ethnicity/religion/whatever. Needing to be unobtrusive and to behave with a certain degree of humility in order for others to interact with you for any reason. Then to go home to a different kind of subjection, with entirely different motives.

It made me think that it must be a terrible life for a Muslim woman living in a western country who has an abusive spouse. Her religion/cultural group regard her as chattel, her husband regards her as a sex slave and society treats her as a pariah. I mean that is some fucking shitty luck.

 

[Niriate]

Well, we can safely say that all of us here know that you're a disturbed little thing, FM

But I have to agree with you in one way, while I'm not aroused by being seen as a minority, I do find it fun to occasionally wear scarfs around my head (mostly to avoid my dyed hair turning yellow ). It feels oddly comforting that you don't have to worry about how your hair looks.

Probably doesn't make a lot of sense, but hey.

 

[FuckFantasy]

I've nothing of substance to add here, except to say that I've always loved the way you write, FM.

 

[fuckmeat]

Do my eyes deceive me?

What the hell is a classy bitch like you doing back here?

 

[Texguy84]

Just a thought, you could also, if you wanted, play the SRP as being a white woman having to wear the scarf for some reason (maybe just to avoid a sunburn, or maybe she is using a prescribed ointment that reacts badly with sunlight, or maybe to cover the marks from some spousal abuse...) and ends up being mistaken for a muslim woman by someone who is a bit more... aggressive in their attentions?