What happened to all of the doom and gloom economic threads?

[IrezumiKiss]

the dude lives in NY, I think, he's probably trying to make end's meet in that studio apartment he calls home. I've seen two girls sleep in the same bed in one of those apartments, NY is tough. Lets face it Irezumipiss aint no Donald Trump...god bless him for fighting the good fight..

You ain't very good with flossing game like this, Faneros. I know you're bored with yourself today and looking for other people's shit to get into in order not to feel lonely, but you should just let me and Jen do this dance, because you got two left feet and one of those feets is a clubfoot.

come up to your joint, are you a pimp? the sad truth, you make me laugh with your insanity.

Talk about insanity, bitch, if you were born in the 18th century, your name would be Napoleon Bona-farte.

 

[JenAltArmy]

the dude lives in NY, I think, he's probably trying to make end's meet in that studio apartment he calls home. I've seen two girls sleep in the same bed in one of those apartments, NY is tough. Lets face it Irezumipiss aint no Donald Trump...god bless him for fighting the good fight..

the way he flies off the handle, would tell me he converted a dumpster into a "single wide" trailer on wheels.

 

[Beco]

You ain't very good with flossing game like this, Faneros. I know you're bored with yourself today and looking for other people's shit to get into in order not to feel lonely, but you should just let me and Jen do this dance, because you got two left feet and one of those feets is a clubfoot.

haha, okay....

 

[JenAltArmy]

haha, okay....

if he had a job, can you imagine how long he could last?

look at how he flies off the handle, and becomes very irrational. no wonder, if he can get a job its in a union shop

 

[IrezumiKiss]

the way he flies off the handle, would tell me he converted a dumpster into a "single wide" trailer on wheels.

Sorry, I'm not living like you. But good on you for helping out the environment and converting waste into something useful and productive.

Now, if we could only do something about converting the waste of your lazy double-wide ass...

 

[RightField]

Gary Jason
The American Thinker

The first story is that Amtrak, our socialized passenger rail service, racked up an operating loss of $506 million this calendar year. The bad news is that this is a considerable increase from last year's loss of $420 million. The worse news is that next year's loss is projected to hit $618 million.

Amtrak ran these deficits despite an increase of nearly 10% in ridership over the last year, putting it on track to exceed last year's record of 28.7 million passengers.

The taxpayers are on the hook for all these losses, of course. We subsidize Amtrak to the tune of a whopping $3.94 billion a year, or about 16% of its operating expenses. Here is your paradigm case of a socialized company: it has a nearly 10% increase in customer traffic, is a legal monopoly, and still operates at a massive loss, all paid for by the taxpayers. Of course it's ineffective, expensive and impossible to terminate, a perfect democrat initiative!

Of course, it is rent-seekers who have kept this boondoggle alive. These rent-seekers include, of course, the railroad workers' unions, the company execs, and the politicians who represent them. But the rent-seekers also include the relatively few passengers whose tickets are cheap because everyone else is picking up part of the tab -- remember that the "28 million passengers" cited above refers only to seats filled, and one commuter is going to "fill" hundreds of seats a year. (It would take only 56,000 commuters to fill seats 28 million times a year supposing, each rides five days a week, out and back, fifty times a year.)

These rent-seekers argue that Amtrak serves a public good and that the problem is the long-distance routes. All Amtrak needs to do, management claims, is drop those routes and improve service. (Among other things, Amtrak wants to add Wi-Fi to its coaches to attract travelers). With the excuse of improving service, Amtrak just got a $450-million grant from the Federal Railroad Administration to upgrade one 24-mile-long segment of its line between Morrisville, PA and New Brunswick, NJ.

Congressman John Mica (R-FL) is once again pushing to at least remove Amtrak's government-sanctioned monopoly and let private companies compete. Of course, the real answer is to end all subsidies for Amtrak; privatize it; and let it drop whatever lines it wants, add whatever services it wants, and improve whatever lines it wishes (with private capital). At the same time, we should allow any other companies who want to enter passenger rail service to do so. Then let the market sort it all out.

But the Amtrak rent-seekers are quite powerful, so it is unlikely that this will be done anytime soon.

Gary Jason
The American Thinker

Of course, this is the same thing that Obamacare will turn into and I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the design....a "rent-seeking" stable government-run organization to park and enrich democrats when they're inevitably voted out of power.

 

[JenAltArmy]

Of course, this is the same thing that Obamacare will turn into and I wouldn't be surprised if that was part of the design....a "rent-seeking" stable government-run organization to park and enrich democrats when they're inevitably voted out of power.

but democrats are for the people and only democrats protect the middle class

its due to people like weiner and rangel, that are champions for the working class. oh wait, one is a sexual deviant while the other is a tax cheat. then we have the state of Il, and obama selling the "obama" seat. then we have john edwards, hiding his child with campaign funds.

I want to be in congress and house of Reps.

 

[mercury14]

Stanley Kurtz
NRO

In what way does an NRO opinion piece refudiate my point? And why would I read it?

This is the reply of a man who was just cornered and could not refute a point.

Lol no. Your whole argument was that Bush was powerless to do the right decision because he would be branded as a Nazi by America if he did. Absurd, even for you.

 

[JenAltArmy]

that's right! you only read "honest" pieces from MSNBC night circus crew

In what way does an NRO opinion piece refudiate my point? And why would I read it?




Lol no. Your whole argument was that Bush was powerless to do the right decision because he would be branded as a Nazi by America if he did. Absurd, even for you.

 

[mercury14]

2. As benefits cease and they are no longer counted as unemployed - Mercury and LT begin saying, "Unemployment drops - the Stimulus is working".

Not at all. I think the stimulus has been effective because independent economists evaluate it as such. I also watch business news shows regularly, which acknowledge that it was effective. And the CBO says it saved about 3 million jobs.

People see what they want to see however, and they say dim-witted things such as "if the stimulus worked, how come the recession isn't fully behind us?". The fact of the matter is that the Great Recession was like a severe headache and the stimulus was a handful of Tylenol. The Tylenol is going to take the edge off it and take the pain level from a 9 to a 7. A wise observer says "hmm the Tylenol was effective". A Republican says "OMG I still have a headache so the Tylenol didn't do anything. I never should have taken it".

 

[JenAltArmy]

yes, and all those "independent" people work for MSNBC

here is where you failed (on this post as we all know you are a failure in real life). the only jobs created were in government and a few jobs were saved at GM

Not at all. I think the stimulus has been effective because independent economists evaluate it as such. I also watch business news shows regularly, which acknowledge that it was effective. And the CBO says it saved about 3 million jobs.

People see what they want to see however, and they say dim-witted things such as "if the stimulus worked, how come the recession isn't fully behind us?". The fact of the matter is that the Great Recession was like a severe headache and the stimulus was a handful of Tylenol. The Tylenol is going to take the edge off it and take the pain level from a 9 to a 7. A wise observer says "hmm the Tylenol was effective". A Republican says "OMG I still have a headache so the Tylenol didn't do anything. I never should have taken it".

 

[cebalrai]

yes, and all those "independent" people work for MSNBC

here is where you failed (on this post as we all know you are a failure in real life). the only jobs created were in government and a few jobs were saved at GM

Alt, 1/3 of the stimulus was take cuts or about $270 billion. Your own belief system says that tax cuts create jobs. So.... now you're flip flopping and saying tax cuts don't create jobs?

 

[JenAltArmy]

Alt, 1/3 of the stimulus was take cuts or about $270 billion. Your own belief system says that tax cuts create jobs. So.... now you're flip flopping and saying tax cuts don't create jobs?

well, do you remember how the market was crashing? as people were thinking the "system" was coming to an end, why would anyone want to invest and create jobs?

granted, creating jobs is something you don't understand.

 

[cebalrai]

Whoa, cebalrai nailed my ass for saying that tax cuts create jobs and also tax cuts do not create jobs. Wow I make no sense.

Fixed your post for you.

 

[JenAltArmy]

Fixed your post for you.

you are one mentally challenged man

 

[cebalrai]

I feel free to contradict myself on every post. And if you call me on it I'll personally attack you. Because my name is Jen.

Fixed your post again to say what you really mean. It's time to cut the crap, hun.

 

[JenAltArmy]

Fixed your post again to say what you really mean. It's time to cut the crap, hun.

you never post any substance or have an original idea. you are just as bad as Merc

 

[cebalrai]

I say the same thing in every thread regardless of topic. I have my own little self-quotes in notepad that I just C&P here.

Why post? You already said everything you're capable of saying.

 

[busybody..]

http://global.nationalreview.com/images/cartoon_061811_A.jpg

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

In what way does an NRO opinion piece refudiate my point? And why would I read it?




Lol no. Your whole argument was that Bush was powerless to do the right decision because he would be branded as a Nazi by America if he did. Absurd, even for you.

You should not read it or anything that counters your purview.

How many times WAS Bush called a Nazi and compared to Hitler? Then there was General BETRAYUS...

I'm with Rick Perry, it's time for the Republicans to stop kissing Democrat ass because the Democrats will never, ever like them.

And, don't look now, but the €PIIGS are beginning to squeal...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Not at all. I think the stimulus has been effective because independent economists evaluate it as such. I also watch business news shows regularly, which acknowledge that it was effective. And the CBO says it saved about 3 million jobs.

People see what they want to see however, and they say dim-witted things such as "if the stimulus worked, how come the recession isn't fully behind us?". The fact of the matter is that the Great Recession was like a severe headache and the stimulus was a handful of Tylenol. The Tylenol is going to take the edge off it and take the pain level from a 9 to a 7. A wise observer says "hmm the Tylenol was effective". A Republican says "OMG I still have a headache so the Tylenol didn't do anything. I never should have taken it".

Links?

Or lies?

We're repeating the mistakes of the Great Depression and you keep trying to paint a picture of a "saved" economy full of "saved" jobs, like Obama is Jesus or something...

__________________
Vinny Gambini: Let me show you something.
[he holds up a playing card, with the face toward Billy]
Vinny Gambini: He's going to show you the bricks. He'll show you they got straight sides. He'll show you how they got the right shape. He'll show them to you in a very special way, so that they appear to have everything a brick should have. But there's one thing he's not gonna show you.
[turns the card, so that its edge is toward Billy]
Vinny Gambini: When you look at the bricks from the right angle, they're as thin as this playing card. His whole case is an illusion, a magic trick. It has to be an illusion, 'cause you're innocent. Nobody - I mean nobody - pulls the wool over the eyes of a Gambini, especially this one. Give me a chance, one chance. Let me question the first witness. If after that point, you don't think that I'm the best man for the job, fire me then and there. I'll leave quietly, no grudges. All I ask is for that one chance. I think you should give it to me.

 

[RobDownSouth]

In the beginning was the DERP

You should not read anything that counters your purview.

The Gospel According To AJ (Book 1).

Who cares wtf you think?

The Gospel According To AJ (Book 2).

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You gonna shoot us another one of your hollow-point bullet proof facts?
Or are you just hateful, angry rhetoric?
One of Dem inspirational and motivational speakers?

Throb thread:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=745068

 

[mercury14]

Links?

Or lies?

Links. I'm not here to lie. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-economy/2010/08/cbo_says_stimulus_may_have_add.html

President Obama's much-maligned economic stimulus package added as many as 3.3 million jobs to the economy during the second quarter of this year, and may have prevented the nation from lapsing back into recession, according to a report released Tuesday by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office

We're repeating the mistakes of the Great Depression and you keep trying to paint a picture of a "saved" economy full of "saved" jobs, like Obama is Jesus or something...

Straw man. I said nothing of the sort, certainly not in extremist terminology that you're putting in my mouth. I think the stimulus was a fairly good plan given the dire circumstances. Could parts of it have been implemented better? Sure. But are we much better off with it? I think we are.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

In its latest quarterly assessment of the act, the CBO said the stimulus lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 and 1.8 percentage points during the quarter ending in June and increased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million. The higher figure would come close to making good on Obama's pledge that the act would save or create as many as 3.5 million jobs by the end of this year.

There's quite some room for margin of error there, and you said independent economists, not government economists.

Again, Links? I've been providing mine all along.

You, Obama, nor anyone else can prove "saved jobs." You can look out and cherry pick the occasional feel-good news item, but again, most of that stimulus, as shown in academic papers, went to shoring up government, not shovel-ready jobs.

The stimulus was a complete and utter failure.
__________________
You loot the private sector, strip every dollar of 40¢ for overhead, and then give the other 60¢ to your political base in order to revitalize the looted.

What's not to like about that plan?
A_J, the Stupid

If you still have a job, it was "saved." If you don't have a job, it's being "created."
A_J, the Incredulous

Barry 2012 Says: ”’Shovel-ready’ was not as shovel-ready as we expected.”
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