Did Rick Santorum and his wife have an abortion?

[Peregrinator]

I see it in the lefty blogs, but nowhere I'd say is especially credible. Anyone got a source for this?

And yes, it matters. Hypocrisy of this level is significant.

 

[blunt_trauma]

medical confidentiality.

every woman deserves it, even if her man is an arsehole.

 

[Powertone]

I call bullshit .

 

[Luk]

I googled "Rick Santorum abortion" and couldn't even find it on lefty blogs but I did read about what a d-bag he is.

 

[Powertone]

I googled "Rick Santorum abortion" and couldn't even find it on lefty blogs but I did read about what a d-bag he is.

business must be bustling @ 8:30 AM PST for you to be posting with such fervor today !

 

[KRCummings]

It'd be pretty amazing for someone to have any proof. It would have to be a close friend or family member and even then it would be rumor.
My guess is that if there's anything out there it's just bullshit to attack him with.

 

[Peregrinator]

medical confidentiality.

every woman deserves it, even if her man is an arsehole.

Well, true enough as far as it goes, but when the "man" is a prominent national politician famous in part for saying things like abortion providers should be charged criminally then it becomes news-ier.

I call bullshit .

Of course you do, Honey. I bet you hate Luke, too.

I googled "Rick Santorum abortion" and couldn't even find it on lefty blogs but I did read about what a d-bag he is.

"Santorum wife abortion" yields this:

Santorum: Our Abortion Was Different
Apr 15, 2011 ... An article chronicles the troubled pregnancy of Karen Santorum, wife of partial-birth-abortion foe Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., ...
oursilverribbon.org/blog/?p=188 - Cached
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Cagle Post » Rick Santorum: When the Anti-Choice Choose
Jun 15, 2011 ... Mr. Santorum is opposed to any and all forms of abortion. Incest? Too bad. Rape? Too bad. Twelve years old? Too bad. Wife, mother, daughter ...
blog.cagle.com/2011/.../rick-santorum-when-the-anti-choice-choose/ - Cached
Rick Santorum Thinks Abortion Should Be Safe and Legal—But Only ...
Jun 14, 2011 ... A must-read post. UPDATE: I've been reading the post's sources and cites... and there's nothing I can find in them that corroborates the ...
slog.thestranger.com/.../rick-santorum-thinks-abortion-should-be-safe-and-legalbut-only-when-his-wife-needs-one - Cached
Rick Santorum authorized a 'partial birth abortion' for his wife ...
Jun 16, 2011 ... Rick Santorum authorized a 'partial birth abortion' for his wife.
www.democraticunderground.com › Discuss - Cached
More Santorum hypocrisy- "OUR ABORTION WAS DIFFERENT: WHEN THE ...‎
Santorum used to be Pro-Choice and his Wife lived with an Abortion ...‎
More results from democraticunderground.com »
Rick Santorum - ALL abortion is wrong - unless it's my wife's ...
Jun 14, 2011 ... http://early-onset-of-night.tumblr.c...he-anti-choice Rick Santorum, former Pennsylvania senator and likely presidential candidate, ...
forum.sbrforum.com › More › Politics & Economics - Cached
OUR ABORTION WAS DIFFERENT: WHEN THE ANTI-CHOICE...
Jun 13, 2011 ... Mr. Santorum is opposed to any and all forms of abortion. Incest? Too bad. Rape? Too bad. Twelve years old? Too bad. Wife, mother, daughter ...
early-onset-of-night.tumblr.com/.../our-abortion-was-different-when-the-anti-choice - Cached
Newsvine - Rick Santorum authorized a partial-birth abortion to ...
Rick Santorum authorized a partial-birth abortion to save the life of his wife. Seeded on Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:42 PM EDT ...
bonosrama.newsvine.com/_.../6859263-rick-santorum-authorized-a-partial-birth-abortion-to-save-the-life-of-his-wife - Cached
Santorum's wife had an abortion, HYPOCRITE!!
2 posts - 2 authors
Mr. Santorum is opposed to any and all forms of abortion. Incest? Too bad. Rape? Too bad. Twelve years old? Too bad. Wife, mother, daughter, lover, ...
www.aesopsretreat.com/forum/index.php?topic=57709.0 - Cached
Santorum and abortion in Political Science Forum
12 posts - 9 authors - Last post: yesterday
Mr. Santorum is opposed to any and all forms of abortion. Incest? Too bad. Rape? Too bad. Twelve years old? Too bad. Wife, mother, daughter ...
buckyville.yuku.com/reply/522873/Re-Santorum-and-abortion - Cached
Rick Santorum is Against Women's Rights - Yahoo! News
Jun 13, 2011 ... Rick Santorum has announced that he is running for the ... Rick Santorum's wife had an abortion for health reasons but now he is against it. ...
news.yahoo.com/.../8632771_rick_santorum_is_against_womens_rights_1 -

 

[Peregrinator]

It'd be pretty amazing for someone to have any proof. It would have to be a close friend or family member and even then it would be rumor.
My guess is that if there's anything out there it's just bullshit to attack him with.

I'm following link trails now, trying to find who "broke" the story. It may have been The New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1998/01/05/1998_01_05_030_TNY_LIBRY_000014643

 

[koalabear]

I see it in the lefty blogs, but nowhere I'd say is especially credible. Anyone got a source for this?

And yes, it matters. Hypocrisy of this level is significant.

Of course the lefty blogs have nothing but the truth.

 

[Peregrinator]

Maybe it was Santorum himself:

In October, 1996, his wife Karen had a second trimester abortion. They don’t like to describe it that way. In his 2004 interview with Terry Gross, Santorum characterizes the fetus, who must be treated as an autonomous person, as a practically a gunslinging threat, whom the mother must murder in self-defense. Karen has had to justify her decision to save her own life by explaining that if she died her other children would have lost a mother.

http://oursilverribbon.org/blog/?p=188

 

[Peregrinator]

Of course the lefty blogs have nothing but the truth.

That's the point of the thread, to find a source that isn't a lefty blog.

 

[bronzeage]

I see it in the lefty blogs, but nowhere I'd say is especially credible. Anyone got a source for this?

And yes, it matters. Hypocrisy of this level is significant.

It's in about a dozen blogs, but I haven't found anyone who claims to have a quote from Santorum on the matter.

According to the story, labor was induced at 20 weeks and the infant lived for a few minutes.

 

[koalabear]

That's the point of the thread, to find a source that isn't a lefty blog.

Good luck.

 

[Peregrinator]

It's in about a dozen blogs, but I haven't found anyone who claims to have a quote from Santorum on the matter.

According to the story, labor was induced at 20 weeks and the infant lived for a few minutes.

I found it:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo69a0/id81.html

There's a link there to the interview with Terry Gross where Santorum himself describes it.

 

[koalabear]

I found it:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo69a0/id81.html

There's a link there to the interview with Terry Gross where Santorum himself describes it.

The Santorums, according to an account written by the senator for today's Commentary Page in The Inquirer, struggled mightily to avoid the abortion option.

Ultimately, they did not have to make a decision; nature made it for them. Karen went into premature labor from an infection, delivering a boy who had a fatal abnormality. The child died two hours later.

Nice link, no abortion. You should consult drixx, it's easier to blame breibart.

 

[Peregrinator]

Good luck.

Thanks.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo69a0/id81.html

At minimum, the doctor said, Karen had to be given antibiotics intravenously or she might go into septic shock and die.

The Santorums were at a crossroads.

Once they agreed to use antibiotics, they believed they were committing to delivery of the fetus, which they knew would most likely not survive outside the womb.

``The doctors said they were talking about a matter of hours or a day or two before risking sepsis and both of them might die,'' Santorum said. ``Obviously, if it was a choice of whether both Karen and the child are going to die or just the child is going to die, I mean it's a pretty easy call.''

Shivering under heated blankets in Magee's labor and delivery unit as her body tried to reject the source of the infection, Karen felt cramping from early labor.

Santorum agreed to start his wife on intravenous antibiotics ``to buy her some time,'' he said.

The antibiotics brought Karen's fever down. The doctor suggested a drug to accelerate her labor.

``The cramps were labor, and she was going to get into more active labor,'' Santorum said. ``Karen said, `We're not inducing labor, that's an abortion. No way. That isn't going to happen. I don't care what happens.' ''

As her fever subsided, Karen - a former neonatal intensive-care nurse - asked for something to stop the labor. Her doctors refused, Santorum recalled, citing malpractice concerns.

Santorum said her labor proceeded without having to induce an abortion.

Karen, a soft-spoken red-haired 37-year-old, said that ``ultimately'' she would have agreed to intervention for the sake of her other children.

``If the physician came to me and said if we don't deliver your baby in one hour you will be dead, yeah, I would have to do it,'' she said. ``But for me, it was at the very end. I would never make a decision like that until all other means had been thoroughly exhausted.''

The fetus was delivered at 20 weeks, at least a month shy of what most doctors consider viability...

 

[Wok]

I found it:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo69a0/id81.html

There's a link there to the interview with Terry Gross where Santorum himself describes it.

Wow, that site is not exactly pro-Santorum.

 

[Peregrinator]

The Santorums, according to an account written by the senator for today's Commentary Page in The Inquirer, struggled mightily to avoid the abortion option.

Ultimately, they did not have to make a decision; nature made it for them. Karen went into premature labor from an infection, delivering a boy who had a fatal abnormality. The child died two hours later.

Nice link, no abortion. You should consult drixx, it's easier to blame breibart.

Stop being such a fucking prick. I started the thread to find the truth of the story, and found it and posted it. Fuck off.

 

[Peregrinator]

Wow, that site is not exactly pro-Santorum.

Nope, but it seems to be defending him on this story. Giving mom antibiotics is hardly having an abortion.

 

[Wok]

Nope, but it seems to be defending him on this story. Giving mom antibiotics is hardly having an abortion.

Yeah, I find it amazing how the Internet can turn into the game of "telephone". It should not surprise me, but the shit people will buy because it fits within the ideological warfare of gotcha games and cheap political points. Nothing is off limits it seems.

 

[Luk]

business must be bustling @ 8:30 AM PST for you to be posting with such fervor today !

I went surfing this morning. One of the perks of not having to go into the shops when I don't want to.

"Santorum wife abortion" yields this:

Well, there goes his bid.

Stop being such a fucking prick. I started the thread to find the truth of the story, and found it and posted it. Fuck off.

The racist little bear never adds anything to a thread. Ever.

 

[Peregrinator]

Yeah, I find it amazing how the Internet can turn into the game of "telephone". It should not surprise me, but the shit people will buy because it fits within the ideological warfare of gotcha games and cheap political points. Nothing is off limits it seems.

That's exactly what this is. I became aware of it when one of my gay lefty friends out in Portland posted a link to a blog story. You can see the meme developing.

I went surfing this morning. One of the perks of not having to go into the shops when I don't want to.



Well, there goes his bid.



The racist little bear never adds anything to a thread. Ever.

It shouldn't affect his bid. They did everything they could to avoid having an abortion.

 

[koalabear]

Stop being such a fucking prick. I started the thread to find the truth of the story, and found it and posted it. Fuck off.

Bam hired a new propaganda czar, check with him.

 

[Luk]

It shouldn't affect his bid. They did everything they could to avoid having an abortion.

I'm not so sure about that. With the lack of viable candidates, we are going to have bottom feeders vying for the bid and will expose and try to destroy their own at all costs.

 

[busybody..]

So the Mother would DIE and saves herself and aborts teh baby and thats bad

Palin DOESNT abort teh REE TARD and thats BAD

Hopefully a new REPOH Prez aborts all teh DUMZ and LIB