Gingrich Revitalized?

[amicus]

I caught part of his delivery at the Republican gathering in New Orleans and his speech was electrifying...something has changed in his presentation...and for the better, I think....?

I looked for the text and the youtube on the conference, but failed to find either, perhaps someone else might have more luck...

http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre75g0ch-us-usa-campaign-gingrich/

Don't count Newt out just yet...?

Amicus

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Stick a fork in him.

Best way to make sure I vote for the Libertarian candidate again, pick I of Newt...

 

[tactful]

Isn't their anybody else out there ?

help, the sky is falling, and someones' going to get hurt.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Newt aint the one. Aint gonna happen.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

He's raising his "Q" to sell books, raise fees, and make himself a goto man for future ideas...




He has to know he's not even as popular as the polarizing Palin.

 

[amicus]

Fair assessments all and with good reason, but, indulge me, either read his speech, or better yet, see if you can find some excerpts and assess what you read or hear.

If memory serves in the 2008 run-up, the Republican candidates were referred to as the 'Seven Dwarfs', none with the gravitas to become the Anerican President. I watched the new 'seven dwarfs' and even adding those who might join the party, none displays the stature necessary.

I would guess that Gingrich realized that and switched horses in the middle of his political stream. He came out more aggressive and confrontational, as if the loss of his staff really woke him up and he came across as a changed man.

He may not get the Nomination, but he will change the dynamics. Feel free to remind me of this if my prediction is in error...smiles...

amicus

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Fair assessments all and with good reason, but, indulge me, either read his speech, or better yet, see if you can find some excerpts and assess what you read or hear.

If memory serves in the 2008 run-up, the Republican candidates were referred to as the 'Seven Dwarfs', none with the gravitas to become the Anerican President. I watched the new 'seven dwarfs' and even adding those who might join the party, none displays the stature necessary.

I would guess that Gingrich realized that and switched horses in the middle of his political stream. He came out more aggressive and confrontational, as if the loss of his staff really woke him up and he came across as a changed man.

He may not get the Nomination, but he will change the dynamics. Feel free to remind me of this if my prediction is in error...smiles...

amicus

Sorry, been down that road before. Gingrich the speech is different than than Gingrich the politician. Best to be Steve Largent now (reference to Scarborough's book) and end the Newt's ambitions (for they tend to get the better of him).

We're also still on that path and under the auspices of "gives a great speech!"



Too soon Romeo, the pain still burns like the dirk in my back...

 

[amicus]

"You might be right, I may be crazy..." Izzat a Billy Joel song...?

I have always been appreciative of Gingrich's intellect, but, to me, he has always come across as too much the professor or the devout Christian. But...there was something in his demeanor during that speech, the whole body thing, expression, tone of voice and more, that raised my eyebrows and caught my attention.

He took on, in my eyes, a 'ten foot tall' stature as he dominated the podium and the audience and eviscerated Obama, the Democrats, and the Liberal/Progressive establishment in general. I have watched and listened to all of them and none hold a candle to him.

There should be a youtube file but I was unable to locate it. I would hope someone could find it and watch; I am seldom wrong in my assessments of things of this nature, but if I am, I would appreciate an objective refutation based on this presentation in specific, not past events or accumulated opinions.

ami

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Trust me, you and 10% of the Republican Primary watched. He might have been magnificent, compelling, and forceful, full of hope, fury and revenge, but then again, so was Hitler (not saying the two are comparable).

Maybe you got leg-tingles, maybe you admired his crease, but by Gawd, I kept trying to point out Obama's actual record, and I'll be damned if I turn around and forget Newt's in a spate of partisan amnesia...

He's damaged goods. End of discussion. He would make a great background advisor, at best.

 

[amicus]

I am not touting or pimping Newt, and before I watched that event, I shared your conclusions.

Everything changes, nothing stays the same and you can't go home again, ever; stipulating all that, and even more, if you wish, I still sense a sea change in the field of Republican hopefuls and Gingrich, in my eyes, has set the stage for a renewal.

Time will tell, of course, as it always does, and it will not shrink my imperatives in the least should I be all wet in my observations. (analyze that!)

How in the hell did you get 40,000 Posts in two years while I have been pooping along for almost eight years now and am still in my teens?

Oh well....

der ami

 

[bronzeage]

Newt won't drink his kool-aid or eat his mushrooms.

Despite his intellectual gifts, he was a college professor and all that, he trashed the Ryan Plan and didn't have the political instinct to say, "I have a better plan and I'll show it to you, uh later."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS, FRISCO ET AL

I'm doing lotsa reading bout The Founders, and when the GOP plays someone of that calibre then they'll get my vote. You'd think there's gotta be at least one Washington in this whole goddamn country.

In fact, I'll take a GEORGE III over the Seven Dwarfs.

 

[amicus]

Howdy, James, hope your garden escapades are going well, trading for fishies and all that stuff...we may be moving into a 'little ice age' here in the Northwest; three years running, we have had no spring and my garden is wimping along begging for umbrellas and the nights are still chilly.

That, as good as anything, describes what I think I saw in Gingrich, a Washingtonesque performance and attitude.

His delivery, and it was convincing, that the Barbarians are indeed at the gates and that the 2012 election is critical; that the small government, moral and ethical right either takes the Senate and the White House and holds the House with sufficient numbers to repeal all the Obama legislation, or all is lost and the nation will devolve into an Euro style social democracy or worse, and the decline will steepen precipitiously.

One would think, with age, which I surely have acquired, that one would be more moderate in one's predictions and perceptions of future events. But I do surmise and thus state, that a tipping point has been reached in our grand experiment with human individual freedom and the free market concept. It is either now, or, never.

Obama and his chosen administration are just the tip of the iceberg of a century's long journey into a progressive socialist society. It is pervasive throughout our society from the legal system, top to bottom, the bureaucracies, also top to bottom the union mentality and the general educational preparation for an entitlement society where the rich are excoriated to support the poor.

Romney is a moderate joke, Palin and the other broad, talk the talk, but....Paul hasn't a chance nor does Cain, Santor whatever, Hunts, whatever, go through the list , one at a time, listen to them, watch them, not one has the whole package.

Gingrich, like Weiner, like Napolean, are little men and driven, for the obvious psychological reasons, but Newt may actually have the cojones and the experience and the connections, to actually make a difference.

Tell me your next best choice?

ami

 

[Liar]

Obama's opponent in the 2012 race is not running yet.

I'm betting a beer.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

The garden is doing better than expected. We have a drought that makes it a greater challenge, but I gotta buy a 2nd freezer to store what I'm harvesting. My last lil block of corn (4 stalks) has 16 ears almost ready to pluck. The freezer is full of collards, okra, tomatoes, squash. Plus I pickled 4 gallons of cucumbers. The garden is 16'x20'.

Hell! I even have a bumper crop of cotton!

I suspect we're beyond the tipping point. The tipping point was when Obama tossed a trillion bux of stimulus money at GM and local government. The moneys gone and nuthin much happened. Our local court clerk used the money to give her people a small bonus.

I was at the library yesterday. Checkouts are now self-serve, and the reference desk and help desk are closed.

County swimming pools are closed.

The local school board sacked 800 teachers.

But we doubled our fund of money to bribe corporations to open store-front offices here.

I think we gotta wait till it all collapses before we know what to fix.

 

[amicus]

Newt won't drink his kool-aid or eat his mushrooms.

Despite his intellectual gifts, he was a college professor and all that, he trashed the Ryan Plan and didn't have the political instinct to say, "I have a better plan and I'll show it to you, uh later."

~~~

Hello, bronzeage, fancy meeting you here...

Listening to the pundits, and there are many, the concensus is that the Ryan Plan was announced at the worst possible time and set up the Repubicans for criticism while the Obama administration will only criticize and not offer an alternative Plan.

It is not so much that Americans like their entitlement programs, but like Reagan, "I paid for this microphone!", we paid for our social security and medicare, not by choice, but we damn well paid for it and to hell with anyone who advocates messing with it!

We also, as Americans, hate to admit that we have been fleeced and scammed by our government, as neither SS or Medicare are true insurance plans, but government 'gifts' if we put all our ducks in a row, and that really pisses us off to no end.

Knowing you from previous encounters, you won't understand much of what I say, but old age pensions and healthcare are not 'rights' under our form of government, but infringements on individual liberty and our society of laws, not preferences.

All the money we paid in to these Ponzi schemes has been lost and squandered and we find ourselves dependent on gratuities from government rather than returns on our investments. That really insults our American sense of fair play in the market place and we are really pissed off about the whole thing.

You social justice freaks keep pushing your agenda and we are gonna start shooting people; any and all who work for government at any level. Don't say you weren't warned.

Amicus Veritas

 

[amicus]

Obama's opponent in the 2012 race is not running yet.

I'm betting a beer.

~~~

You're on!



ami

 

[amicus]

AMICUS

The garden is doing better than expected. We have a drought that makes it a greater challenge, but I gotta buy a 2nd freezer to store what I'm harvesting. My last lil block of corn (4 stalks) has 16 ears almost ready to pluck. The freezer is full of collards, okra, tomatoes, squash. Plus I pickled 4 gallons of cucumbers. The garden is 16'x20'.

Hell! I even have a bumper crop of cotton!

I suspect we're beyond the tipping point. The tipping point was when Obama tossed a trillion bux of stimulus money at GM and local government. The moneys gone and nuthin much happened. Our local court clerk used the money to give her people a small bonus.

I was at the library yesterday. Checkouts are now self-serve, and the reference desk and help desk are closed.

County swimming pools are closed.

The local school board sacked 800 teachers.

But we doubled our fund of money to bribe corporations to open store-front offices here.

I think we gotta wait till it all collapses before we know what to fix.

~~~

I offer sincere envy of your garden, James, good all over you, although I am highly suspect of anyone who would actually grow and eat, I assume, Okra or Collard Greens, gawd awful palate you must have!

I have a 'survival' genre novel in my head for when the whole thing goes south, but hell, you are in the south! The hurricane season should solve your drought I would guess...?

Libraries and schools? Not even a whisper in the national news about that in your area...I wonder how many areas are undergoing similar things?

I have a love/hate relationship with the south....having lived in Miami and Biloxi for some years...the heat, the humidity, the bugs, gads, the bugs...but then again, the usually mild climate, minus tropical storms and hurricanes, I went through two, "George" in Biloxi and one in Miami where I had to move my sailboat up the Miami River for a safe harbor and another severe depression during my sailing voyage in the Bahama's, helluva experience...but then, the thrill of my boat surfing down 30' waves was something I will never forget...

I lived in San Diego for a while, much better climate...and seven years in Hawaii; strange how time and things merge over the years...

warm regards...

ami

 

[bronzeage]

~~~

Hello, bronzeage, fancy meeting you here...

Listening to the pundits, and there are many, the concensus is that the Ryan Plan was announced at the worst possible time and set up the Repubicans for criticism while the Obama administration will only criticize and not offer an alternative Plan.

It is not so much that Americans like their entitlement programs, but like Reagan, "I paid for this microphone!", we paid for our social security and medicare, not by choice, but we damn well paid for it and to hell with anyone who advocates messing with it!

We also, as Americans, hate to admit that we have been fleeced and scammed by our government, as neither SS or Medicare are true insurance plans, but government 'gifts' if we put all our ducks in a row, and that really pisses us off to no end.

Knowing you from previous encounters, you won't understand much of what I say, but old age pensions and healthcare are not 'rights' under our form of government, but infringements on individual liberty and our society of laws, not preferences.

All the money we paid in to these Ponzi schemes has been lost and squandered and we find ourselves dependent on gratuities from government rather than returns on our investments. That really insults our American sense of fair play in the market place and we are really pissed off about the whole thing.

You social justice freaks keep pushing your agenda and we are gonna start shooting people; any and all who work for government at any level. Don't say you weren't warned.

Amicus Veritas

Knowing you from previous encounters, I know you are one of those who thinks the world does not agree with you because you have not explained it thoroughly enough, but have infinite patience and will try one more time.

Most rational people do not include the threat of spree killings in political discussions, but that's just the way you are.

 

[Liar]

~~~

You're on!



ami

Ha! Hold me to it, cause i'll probably forget it.

 

[amicus]

Knowing you from previous encounters, I know you are one of those who thinks the world does not agree with you because you have not explained it thoroughly enough, but have infinite patience and will try one more time.

Most rational people do not include the threat of spree killings in political discussions, but that's just the way you are.

~~~

'Spree killings?'

The history of the world is the history of conflict and war and I suggest it is highly rational to attempt to foresee such events and make preparations.

You have a grand plan of social justice wherein you manipulate people to serve your ends. Bring it down to just you and I and imagine the possible consequences should you attempt to impose your social justice on a one to one basis with me, or any other type A male.

Ya think I be gonna just go belly up?

Wrong.

Amicus

 

[bronzeage]

~~~

'Spree killings?'

The history of the world is the history of conflict and war and I suggest it is highly rational to attempt to foresee such events and make preparations.

You have a grand plan of social justice wherein you manipulate people to serve your ends. Bring it down to just you and I and imagine the possible consequences should you attempt to impose your social justice on a one to one basis with me, or any other type A male.

Ya think I be gonna just go belly up?

Wrong.

Amicus

we are gonna start shooting people; any and all who work for government at any level.

It's not a "highly rational to attempt to foresee such events and make preparations." It is a silly threat that borders on adolescent fantasy.

If it came down to just me and you, you would have to politely request my help. As I am a generous type, I might no let you starve.

 

[Luk]

Doesn't one have to be "vitalized" to be "revitalized?"

 

[rosco rathbone]

Stick a fork in him.

Best way to make sure I vote for the Libertarian candidate again, pick I of Newt...

Romney won't do the trick?